I agree. Even that cliffhanger in the swimming pool annoyed me.
Sherlock
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That explanation was rendered useless when it was shown they just had the sniper killed. The "going undercover to dismantle Moriarty's network" one is a lot weaker, but they probably wrote themselves into a hole and it was the best they could come up with. That or there's an explanation that makes more sense still to come.
Yep I think that's what will happen, and as someone said they'll probably lay out all the other scenarios until the real one. Which will rile Mockney up!
Not at all. It's not the lack of explanation I hated, it's the lack of plot. It's a police procedural, not a soap. I actually thought the idea of stringing the reveal out to the end of the episode whilst dotting it with red herrings was completely the right thing to do. There just should have been a decent plot in between.
No we all remember. They just had the sniper aiming at John shot. Rendering the entire thing pointless.
Yep, they Moyes'd him right up.
Yep, pretty much. Chucking in a shit version of V for Vendetta doesn't really cut it.
Isn't this just what he said to that Anderson guy, or have I missed it said somewhere else? Didn't think that was the real explanation but they've ballsed it up if it was.
Well if they re-address it in another episode then it would save face in that respect, yes, but also make the fact they wasted half an episode pretending to deal with it when they could've had a plot instead even sillier.
Personally I hope it doesn't dwell on it even further 'cos I'd like it to get back to some cool, self contained mystery solving episodes.
On the plus side, I've had the theme tune in my head all week. It's actually getting quite annoying now.
Personally I hope it doesn't dwell on it even further 'cos I'd like it to get back to some cool, self contained mystery solving episodes.
On the plus side, I've had the theme tune in my head all week. It's actually getting quite annoying now.
Will there be only 3 episodes this season? With regards to the reveal, I think the bouncy castle version was probably the truth with some parts removed to feck around with Anderson's mind.
From what I've read about the next episode, expect more disappointment in that department.
Why can't we just all accept that the whole thing has been a little bit daft?
That first clip at least was genius, to be fair. Had a great big grin on my face after that scene.
It was a more difficult episode to do properly, I'm guessing. I do think it did demand a bit more than a quick explanation and a full strength plot - they've done too much with Sherlock and Watson to brush it aside quickly, and they obviously had to throw in a scene with Molly given her role in his faked suicide. Didn't really get it right like they did in the very first episode though, which I suppose is sort of similar in terms of the balance it had to strike.
Regarding the suicide, it needs to be better than the bouncy castle explanation, even aside from the business with Moriarty. I know this show is a bit James Bond-ish at times but pulling that off without getting seen in London would be basically impossible. Even if there's a whole army of homeless people, there'd be surely some camera in the surrounding area that any police investigation would call upon.
He needs to somehow hit the floor and live, really...
That first clip at least was genius, to be fair. Had a great big grin on my face after that scene.
It was a more difficult episode to do properly, I'm guessing. I do think it did demand a bit more than a quick explanation and a full strength plot - they've done too much with Sherlock and Watson to brush it aside quickly, and they obviously had to throw in a scene with Molly given her role in his faked suicide. Didn't really get it right like they did in the very first episode though, which I suppose is sort of similar in terms of the balance it had to strike.
Regarding the suicide, it needs to be better than the bouncy castle explanation, even aside from the business with Moriarty. I know this show is a bit James Bond-ish at times but pulling that off without getting seen in London would be basically impossible. Even if there's a whole army of homeless people, there'd be surely some camera in the surrounding area that any police investigation would call upon.
He needs to somehow hit the floor and live, really...
With Mycroft's pull with the government, he could get it covered up though.
loved the start of tonightsDidn't look like it was going anywhere but finished nicely I thought.
Yep. Came together well.
The drunken blurry camera segment hurt my head.
I thought that was excellent.
I thought it was excellent, lost its way a bit in the middle but came together very well in the end.
I will be watching this one again.
I will be watching this one again.
Yeah, the last twenty minutes were very good. I think if it had been an hour episode then it would have been fantastic, I thought there was far too much fluff in it though and I was quite bored in parts considering it took about 40 minutes for a case to even be mentioned. I know people like the Watson-Sherlock relationship but it shouldn't be at the expense of a plot like it was last week and tonight for large parts. I think I'm being overly critical though, I probably noticed the slow start much more because I no longer trusted the writers after last week and thought they'd done the same again. It was actually rather cleverly structured, it's just you didn't know that until the end.
The end came together very well and I did enjoy it as a whole but got to say having waited such a long time for this to return I'm somewhat disappointed. A compelling mystery has seemingly gone out the window for each episode. It feels like the actual story is secondary to the interactions. I hope the third episode is great. Hopefully with the wedding stuff and his return out the window they can get back to a proper story. Maybe it would have been good if they could have fitted his return and the wedding in to one episode. Still as I said I did enjoy it and it did finish well.
Such a worrying start, was so jokey. But came together very nicely, a great episode in the end! I really enjoyed the level of sentiment.. but being a bit of a gay bastard I go in for that.
I really like this show, but it has got possibly the worst fandom on the internet.
I'm 22 minutes in.
It's big bang theory in England.
It's big bang theory in England.
Cumberbatch was phenomenal in that episode.
Other than that I thought I thought it was derisory for the first part and excellent for the second.
Other than that I thought I thought it was derisory for the first part and excellent for the second.
Loverly sentiment. Filler episode. As there is only one episode left it's a bit annoying.
Also, the whole murder weapon - belt thing, where exactly did it go when hi stabbed the royal brigadier? Like where did it go.
He stabbed him while he was on duty outside and pulled the knife/whatever out right after he stabbed him.
It wasn't filler, this is what the show is now.
So he stabbed him and removes the weapon, but for some reason he doesnt notice until he takes his belt off? Then the wound bursts open?
I find this confusing. Not as bad as that stupid code episode (last episode of S2) but at least that was just a bluff.
I found it weird that they supposedly never felt the pain of the stab wound but the idea was the pressure from the belt kept them from bleeding.
By normal standards it would definintly be considered a filler episode.
Doesnt move the overall plot forward at all. Compilation of previously solved and unsolved cases, just like friends and their "what would life be like if..." episodes, or more correctly like Community and it's "speeches" episode or maybe HIMYM and its flash backs. I dunno, maybe its just me but I'm very confused about what they are doing with this show. Last ever episode next week?
The plot of the show is that they solve crimes, I don't really see what plot advancement happens in other episodes that was missing in this. What's the difference between us seeing a case in real time so to speak and seeing it via flash backs. There was (eventually) a mystery, and Sherlock solved it.
I thought it would involve Sir Alex from the first episode, so I guess in that way it didn't really advance the plot. I'd hope that character isn't all uncovered in one episode.
Enjoyed that episode. Middle got a bit boring but the final 25 minutes were very enjoyable. Cumberbatch really is brilliant.
Unfortunately there's only 1 episode left. I'd like them to extend it to 5 episodes a season, three is not enough
Unfortunately there's only 1 episode left. I'd like them to extend it to 5 episodes a season, three is not enough
Season 4 has already been confirmed.
I guess we can expect a cliffhanger in the season finale then.
Some clever clogs has picked up that the wedding message from 'CAM' is the initials of the villain to be introduced fully next week.
Some clever clogs has picked up that the wedding message from 'CAM' is the initials of the villain to be introduced fully next week.
Really? Brilliant news. I thought/was afraid Benedict would be off being a movie star.
The last EP will have a massive cliffhanger now.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-03-12/benedict-cumberbatch-confirms-sherlock-series-4
Was thinking people would be sharpening knives for a good chunk of that, but it turned out nicely. It's weird because it's a really good show but I sometimes watch Cumberbatch's Sherlock and think about what could've been with a character like that. If you look at how they've developed his character from the start into what he is now, it could've been a really beautiful thing in a longer show with more of that sort of focus and a running narrative.
You obviously couldn't have that and have the strength of plot they have each episode here though, and having not read the books I don't even know if that would be possible. Still, fantastic actor.
You obviously couldn't have that and have the strength of plot they have each episode here though, and having not read the books I don't even know if that would be possible. Still, fantastic actor.
Just rewatched that part again. Mary suddenly looks nervous and scared when Sherlock reads out the name "CAM".
Cumberbatch is a phenomenal actor. All those subtle facial emotions were just I felt so sorry for him at the end when he's walking away from the wedding.
Can someone explain the importance of the woman knowing the name 'John Hamish Watson?'
I felt so sorry for him at the end when he's walking away from the wedding.Can someone explain the importance of the woman knowing the name 'John Hamish Watson?'