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Set of players we can buy for €120m - would you still want Pogba?
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I'd personally take Isco and Kante. Pogba plays a LCM for Juventus, hes the more creative midfielder. This is the sort of player that we need. However i would prefer Isco. With kante beside him and Fosu-Mensah playing defensive Mid
Another way to look at it would be what would we sell pogs for if he had 3 years left in a contract in this market if real came calling pretty sure the answer would be close to what we're apparently willing to pay
That too.
But it also means that with the money Pogba would be on,we could actually price Real out of any future move. It's much harder to sign a player on 300k, especially as you'll likely need to give him a pay rise too.
Madrid showed with De Gea that they are not always willing to meet whatever asking price.
Alli, Varane, and Kante, you might just about get them for 1 x Pogba, I know which i'd rather have.
Don't think you would. Alli and Varane are two players that the selling club has no reason to sell. They'd cost an extortionate amount.
Dunno, reckon Varane could be got (if he wanted to go) for sub £40 million, and Alli somewhere around £50 million, then Kante has a £20 m release clause, so it'd be close.
I'm not really understanding how people write off certain transfers by saying "he's not for sale". Its not exactly like Pogba is for sale at Juve either.
Not sure Levy would part with the brightest talent in English football for £50m, when Everton are demanding the same for a defender on the back of a poor season.
I'd rather go out and pay the release clause of Saul Niguez, and stick him in a midfield alongside Carrick/Schweinsteiger (in gameswe should dominate) or Schneiderlin (in games that we might need more energy). Rooney can play as a #10 for another year, and we can buy Griezmann next summer.
English clubs can generally set whatever prices they want now as they're all cash rich and have no reason to sell anyone under contract for any half decent length of time. Any player is attainable with the right offer, everyone has a price.
Ok, Niguez, Varane, Kante, for 1 x Pogba, again I know which I'd rather have, and you're probably right about Alli/Levy, but doubt he's worth more than £50 m.
I'm not against Pogba, and I don't really care about the money, but value for money wise he's certainly not going to win us any prizes.
I share these sentiments. I trust Mourinho to get the right players in for the system that he wants to play, and I don't really care how much it costs the club in the short term. I would be disappointed to see Saul Niguez or Antoine Griezmann move elsewhere though.
Griezmann especially, would love him here, a player truly worthy of the world record transfer fee.
Kante, Matuidi, Gotze (I know he's not a Jose no10) and still have £30 mil left over
Yeah I'm sure Daniel Levy would have no problem selling Spurs best player to us for half the amount Levy would want for him.
I'm sure Zidane would have no problem selling us a young defender who he has massive plans for for a bargain price.
Kante maybe but it's possible he fancies living in London or Madrid so there will be lots of offers for him.
Pogba might just be a possibility for crazy money as it's very rare that we get a free run for the transfer windows most in demand player but it's very possible Madrid will come in with a last minute bid
Yeah, I don't get this either. They confidently post a list of players who are definitely "not for sale" whilst being confident that Pogba is!
OK, how about:
Butland
Clyne Cathcart Terry Fuchs
Allen Catermole
Ritchie Puncheon Downing
Pelle
We could probably get all those for the price of Pogba!
Oh...wait...football doesn't work like that.
Butland
Clyne Cathcart Terry Fuchs
Allen Catermole
Ritchie Puncheon Downing
Pelle
We could probably get all those for the price of Pogba!
Oh...wait...football doesn't work like that.
Really? Juventus is well known a selling club. As wealthy as they are they ain't the same money maker as us to make use of their best marketing players. Arguably selling players is more profitable for them. They can make use of the more players for the same money as their league is not as competitive while CL is too risky for them to heavily invest. Juventus can't compete with our wage offer. Look also at Juventus transfer strategy: taking players from other bigs clubs for cheap Mandzukic, Evra, Alves, Khedira, Pirlo, Tevez, Cuarado, Pogba
... Their approach is more of taking punts than true arm race. World record fee would be more tempting for them than big clubs who spend silly money on a single player.For someone like PSG or Real Madrid or Bayern or Barcelona they aimed for CL (we don't have CL this season). They can compete with us in wage and they can make money themselves so they don't need to sell players. Not to mention other factor like weather, culture... Let's say we want Verrati instead of Pogba for world record fee: PSG doesn't need our money. We try to persuade the player by offering him huge wage: PSG can match the offer. PSG offer CL football as well as a nicer city! Similar with Kroos or whoever for Bayern, and Barcelona. From these clubs, it's more likely the reject or the find new challenge one we can get. Not the super star we need.
In transfer market, don't pick the one your size.
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When a player of Pogba's ability becomes available (let's for the sake of argument presume he is) we should absolutely be in for him and be willing to pay a hell of a lot of money for him. These kinds of players do not come available often, and there's a reason for that. Sure, we could get Kante and Matuidi if they're willing to join and Kante is even available. But neither of them are close to or ever will be close to Pogba's level.
If we get Pogba which to be honest I doubt we will, I won't be thinking of the asking price, I'll be thinking of how fantastic it will be to have Paul Pogba in our side giving us that creative drive in midfield we've been missing for years.
If we get Pogba which to be honest I doubt we will, I won't be thinking of the asking price, I'll be thinking of how fantastic it will be to have Paul Pogba in our side giving us that creative drive in midfield we've been missing for years.
You could also buy 40 million donner kebabs. At the end of the day, we're trying to be the best. That means buying the absolute best.
Agreed.
Also don't underestimate the potential commercial appeal of Pogba in future years being of big appeal to the Glazers.
Aye, it's also quite clear the people who run the club have been intent on landing a marquee player at a World record fee for a few years, especially a player that all the top clubs want.
It's a signal of intent that we are now the big players in the transfer market, not PSG, City or Madrid. It won't stop there either, the club are intent in overtaking Madrid in the transfer arena. It make sense on so many levels, not least with future high profile transfers.
Jose was our biggest signing of the Summer. No doubt about it.
Players previously unattainable, have suddenly become attainable.
The Mourinho factor is now in play.
Kane is likely to be of greater commercial appeal if we assume he's set to be the first choice England striker for the next 5-10 years. Rooney's commercial value (in UK and abroad) has been magnified by his status as the highest profile Englishman in the league.
If you're to compare Kane and Rooney, then unless Kane can maintain his goal scoring record for years to come and did well for England, it's unlikely.
Rooney bursted into the scene and immediately hyped up to one of the best young talent in the world football (more promise than Ronaldo at the time). Delivered in Euro 2004 while with English golden generation. Rooney's then bought by Manchester United, one of the biggest teams in the world for a record fee for a teenager. Had been the hope for United and England for a decade since. Went from a teenage wonderkid to main men then captain. Rooney became he most popular footballer in England at the moment even though his performance had dropped for few years.
Kane is not wonderkid. Had 2 great seasons, but failed on his first international tournament. He will need 2 more year to be able to get a chance at international level. Now the competition in PL would be raised to higher level with all the top class coaches and richer team strengthen their squad. Kane and Tottenham have to do extremely well to stay relevant or the big hitter from big clubs would take the popularity.
Rashford, Martial, Memphis would have a better chance in making a bigger name if they perform for us. Our brand power can help them better their own brand.
It's tough to answer but I wouldn't buy one player for that money and if I do he better be a player proven at the highest level which Pogba isn't.
Kante might be available for £30m but you'd be looking at minimum £70m for Alli given Levy's policy of never selling anyone to PL teams, probably more. Varane we cannot get at all.