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Just go get Oshimen and stop pissing about with sub standard strikers. 17mill seems a good price but I'd rather just add it to the Oshimen bid.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
If ‘Not all skin folk is kin folk’ was a poster. Pathetic indeed.

Enjoy the game.
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Oh, so conveniently ignore the actual reason for the comparison rather than their skin colour? Did you actually think that was racist? If so, you must be thick as pig shit. The Osimhen shout is impressively dumb.
 
PoTMS said:
Did you actually think that was racist?
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The fact you’ve asked this question proves the point went way over your head. I think it’s lazy & braindead, if I thought it was racist I would say.

Anyway we’re 1-0 down.
 
Solanke looks great. PL-proven. 26. Should seriously consider him next summer.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
The fact you’ve asked this question proves the point went way over your head. I think it’s lazy & braindead, if I thought it was racist I would say.

Anyway we’re 1-0 down.
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So you've looked at my comparison to Ba/Cisse and assumed I've meant it's because they're black.

Not because...

They were both signed in January.
They are both quick nippy strikers with an eye for goal.
They both were signed on the cheap (£10m).
They both came from Bundesliga midtable teams.
They both were instant successes in the Premier League and immediately scored lots of goal for their respective teams.
But, sure... you obviously noticed they're both West African.

And if you thought it was just being lazy, why did you mention Osimhen in your reply as if I lumped all 4 of them together when really he was only mentioned to emphasise the difference in price. Of course you meant it to imply covert racism. What a load of backtracking bollocks.

I guess these journalists are lazy/low-key racist too. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....castle-could-repeat-papiss-cisse-28102276.amp
 
G3079 said:
He has a goal or assist every 128 minutes for Rennes - 25 goals / 4 assist in 3727 minutes. A goal every 149 minutes, or if you want to split it by season, 158.8 (20/21) and 129.8 (21/22) minutes per goal. By no means a feat that I'd call underwhelming, and while he is of course doing a lot better for Stuttgart in his second season for them than for Rennes so far it certainly isn't like he has been terrible before he landed there. For comparison, Hojlund is at 240.8 and Martial at 286.5 minutes per goal this season.

Even if you discount his current season as an outlier his averages still outshine what United's CFs have been showing this season so far. For such a low exit clause he's basically a nobrainer, unless United does a United and gives him a five year contract on 350k/wk right off the bat. But if his wage demands are reasonable he's worth a punt for sure.
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I’m just saying from the time I watched him zt Rennes, he had nothing impressive In his game. Terrier and Laborde are much more complete players in my view.
Weghorst was also a 1 goal every 2 games type of striker in Germany, we all saw how it translated when he became our 9.

As a 15m stop gap striker why not, but I’m really not convinced by him.
 
PoTMS said:
So you've looked at my comparison to Ba/Cisse and assumed I've meant it's because they're black.

Not because...

They were both signed in January.
They are both quick nippy strikers with an eye for goal.
They both were signed on the cheap (£10m).
They both came from Bundesliga midtable teams.
They both were instant successes in the Premier League and immediately scored lots of goal for their respective teams.
But, sure... you obviously noticed they're both West African.

And if you thought it was just being lazy, why did you mention Osimhen in your reply as if I lumped all 4 of them together when really he was only mentioned to emphasise the difference in price. Of course you meant it to imply covert racism. What a load of backtracking bollocks.

I guess these journalists are lazy/low-key racist too. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....castle-could-repeat-papiss-cisse-28102276.amp
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He’s having a mare and somehow manages to bring Pogba into it?

We need a second physical striker who is in form. I think at the price and given our options he’s worth a punt but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he turned out looking poor in our team (based only on YouTube)
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
If ‘Not all skin folk is kin folk’ was a poster. Pathetic indeed.

Enjoy the game.
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Your original post was a load of shite, to be fair. Those 2 strikers are the most relevant examples 99% of people would know about, in terms of the situation. Lots of parallels.
 
PoTMS said:
So you've looked at my comparison to Ba/Cisse and assumed I've meant it's because they're black.

Not because...

They were both signed in January.
They are both quick nippy strikers with an eye for goal.
They both were signed on the cheap (£10m).
They both came from Bundesliga midtable teams.
They both were instant successes in the Premier League and immediately scored lots of goal for their respective teams.
But, sure... you obviously noticed they're both West African.

And if you thought it was just being lazy, why did you mention Osimhen in your reply as if I lumped all 4 of them together when really he was only mentioned to emphasise the difference in price. Of course you meant it to imply covert racism. What a load of backtracking bollocks.

I guess these journalists are lazy/low-key racist too. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....castle-could-repeat-papiss-cisse-28102276.amp
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Cause we’ve never seen an inform Caucasian striker move from the Bundesliga. . .

From what I remember of Ba & Cisse I don’t see huge similarities in all 3s style. I didn’t say there are no comparables, what I am saying is if your thoughts were as in depth as you proclaim you could easily come up with other alternatives unless Cisse & Ba are the only strikers to move in January of course? The second we were linked with him I knew the swathe of Cisse & Ba nonsense would arrive as if people have really charted the careers of all 3.

It also wouldn’t be the first time a journalist has been lazy/low key racist so I’m not sure what you think that would prove.

‘Quick, nippy strikers’. Let’s guess, they’re real all physical lads too. . .

You should look up the definition of backtracking, this ain’t it cheif.

2-0 now.
Conor said:
Your original post was a load of shite, to be fair.
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To be fair, wouldn’t be the first time.
Conor said:
Those 2 strikers are the most relevant examples 99% of people would know about, in terms of the situation. Lots of parallels.
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Speaking of posts being utter shite.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
Cause we’ve never seen an inform Caucasian striker move from the Bundesliga. . .

From what I remember of Ba & Cisse I don’t see huge similarities in all 3s style. I didn’t say there are no comparables, what I am saying is if your thoughts were as in depth as you proclaim you could easily come up with other alternatives unless Cisse & Ba are the only strikers to move in January of course? The second we were linked with him I knew the swathe of Cisse & Ba nonsense would arrive as if people have really charted the careers of all 3.

It also wouldn’t be the first time a journalist has been lazy/low key racist so I’m not sure what you think that would prove.

‘Quick, nippy strikers’. Let’s guess, they’re real all physical lads too. . .

You should look up the definition of backtracking, this ain’t it cheif.

2-0 now.

To be fair, wouldn’t be the first time.

Speaking of posts being utter shite.
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You're a crap poster.
 
PoTMS said:
Go on. Give us one that came in January.
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Sorry the helpful interjection from the other posters means I didn’t see this at first.

It could go just as Wout to Burnley as it did go Cisse & Ba.

I’m not saying I don’t see the comparisons entirely. I’m saying the common denominator is the obvious but one as quite frankly one of the reasons Ba & Cisse were good together were the complimentary differences. I wouldn’t lump them in as comparable players but I didn’t watch lots of Newcastl.

3-0 now.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
Nothing like coming into something in an attempt to promote healthy discussion.
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Your initial post was nonsense, everyone has told you such, and you've continued to just post crap. Nothing healthy about anything you've posted, you just essentially tried to call a poster racist for saying he would like this signing to work out like 2 other signings with multiple similarities that were successful.
 
Conor said:
Your initial post was nonsense, everyone has told you such, and you've continued to just post crap. Nothing healthy about anything you've posted, you just essentially tried to call a poster racist for saying he would like this signing to work out like 2 other signings with multiple similarities that were successful.
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Your definition of everyone needs about as much work as EtHs current United squad. AnywayI’m discussing with the original poster so thanks for this but to be fair, like your other posts, they’re needless shite.

3-0 now
 
PoTMS said:
So you can't even name one example? All of this by the by. I didn't mention Weghorst cos he was shite, not because he was white.
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Weghorst to Burnley in January based off a good form in Germany was the example. He was shite is exactly what we could be saying about this guy, you asked for a a player bought in January not how good they were. We’re getting semantic.
 
Widow said:
People are getting confused. United have money it's because of FFP that we're unable to spend it.
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I still dont get it. We cant spend any money in Summer because of FFP? Nada? Zero? Oshimen will cost what 120? 130? FFP says we cant spend 130? Well if we can't even spend that they we are truly in the sht
 
A Ten Hag endorsed punt on a journeyman from the same league we got Weghorst from. What could possibly go wrong
 
UpWithRivers said:
I still dont get it. We cant spend any money in Summer because of FFP? Nada? Zero? Oshimen will cost what 120? 130? FFP says we cant spend 130? Well if we can't even spend that they we are truly in the sht
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We are pushing the cost limits of FFP and P&S. But there is light in the end of the tunnel.

Yearly cost of our squad is approx £500 mill. Below is an estimate of the cost of a few players linked with transfers (book value):

Varane - £25 mill (£10 mill)
Maguire - £25 mill (Zero)
Sancho - £28 mill (£28 mill)
Donny - £13 mill (£7 mill)
AWB - £13 mill (zero)

The total cost of these five players are approx £100 mill. Furthermore, we have a player like Martial making £10 mill a year on a contract that expire this year. So they add up to more than 20 % of the total cost of the squad.

Assuming a decent player cost £50-60 mill and make £150-200k a week that would be a yearly cost of £20-25 mill. So by selling these five players Man Utd should be able to bring in a minimum of five quality players. The catch is we have to sell at a minimum of their book value and not cover any wages.

So, in an ideal world, we would at a minimum bring in two CBs, one fullback, one central midfielder and one striker. Maybe we could add a second midfielder if we avoid brining in Amrabat (and avoid a loan of a player like Reguilon).

In my opinion, a great window would be something like this:

Solanke/Toney
Onana
Frimpong
Todibo
Branthwaite
Vermeeren
 
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AndySmith1990 said:
A Ten Hag endorsed punt on a journeyman from the same league we got Weghorst from. What could possibly go wrong
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You got Weghorst from the Turkish league and his numbers were already decreasing in the BL before he signed for Burnley. That's not really comparable to a striker who seems to hit his prime now and scores three times as much as Weghorst did in his last BL season. And that apparently for the same transfer fee.
 
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Only Robert Lewandowski scored more goals than Wout Weghorst in his three and a half years in the Bundesliga.
 
TheGame said:
You're right but then you would need to log out of football manager and get in the real world. We simply don't have that amount of cash.
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Why do people keep saying this? Hojlund 70m + Onana -45m = 115m that's Oshimen cash right there. Its a matter of priorities. Next summer if we are totally broke then get Oshimen and no one else if we really have to. Sure we need a DM and CB etc but what's the point of 3/4 average signings and still no one who can score
 
TheGame said:
You're right but then you would need to log out of football manager and get in the real world. We simply don't have that amount of cash.
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We had the money to sign Osimhen in the summer. We spent it on Mount and Hojlund instead. And don’t talk nonsense about wages Mount + Hojlund wages is less than Osimhens
 
Cassidy said:
We had the money to sign Osimhen in the summer. We spent it on Mount and Hojlund instead. And don’t talk nonsense about wages Mount + Hojlund wages is less than Osimhens
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Really? We had to invest in midfield thats why we signed Mount. Unfortunately he's been injured. Oshiman would have cost at least £150m.
 
UpWithRivers said:
Why do people keep saying this? Hojlund 70m + Onana -45m = 115m that's Oshimen cash right there. Its a matter of priorities. Next summer if we are totally broke then get Oshimen and no one else if we really have to. Sure we need a DM and CB etc but what's the point of 3/4 average signings and still no one who can score
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You want to forget all others and just sign a striker? It's no point having a striker when you've neglected all of the other areas. And if you think Oshimen would have cost £115, you are having a laugh. I would have personally kept DDG and signed a CB which we need.
 
TheGame said:
You want to forget all others and just sign a striker? It's no point having a striker when you've neglected all of the other areas. And if you think Oshimen would have cost £115, you are having a laugh. I would have personally kept DDG and signed a CB which we need.
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they were quoting 150 M euros. Al Hilal bid 120. 115 is not far off. And yes McFred in midfield, Maguire at the back with De Gea plus Oshimen and we would be far better off than we are now
 
UpWithRivers said:
they were quoting 150 M euros. Al Hilal bid 120. 115 is not far off. And yes McFred in midfield, Maguire at the back with De Gea plus Oshimen and we would be far better off than we are now
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Not heard of any bid by Al Hilal, Chelsea were sniffing around and they were quoted £150m. There would have been a few clubs sniffing around £120m. I still think it's paying way over the odds when other areas of the team improved.
 
TheGame said:
Really? We had to invest in midfield thats why we signed Mount. Unfortunately he's been injured. Oshiman would have cost at least £150m.
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Osimhen was price was 130-150m euros.
We “had to invest in midfield” more than we had to invest in a top class striker? I think not.

Mount has not just been injured hes also been dropped.
 
Cassidy said:
Osimhen was price was 130-150m euros.
We “had to invest in midfield” more than we had to invest in a top class striker? I think not.

Mount has not just been injured hes also been dropped.
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Yes we had to invest in a midfield. Again you are kidding yourself if you think we could have got him for that price. The manager clearly wanted investment in other areas. The midfield is a massive problem right now.

Mount has been injured and hasn’t had the consistent run. Making an appearance then getting injured again.
 
It doesn’t matter, he’ll be benched for 2 months because he isn’t up to speed with the squad and play in nothing g games for the last 6/7 games.
It’s not the attackers that’s the problem, it’s playing a system that only suits McTominay and staying at it
 
TheGame said:
Yes we had to invest in a midfield. Again you are kidding yourself if you think we could have got him for that price. The manager clearly wanted investment in other areas. The midfield is a massive problem right now.

Mount has been injured and hasn’t had the consistent run. Making an appearance then getting injured again.
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We did not need Mount stop kidding urself and the price was well reported for Osimhen.

Yes we needed a midfielder agree. Not in the mould of Mount though clearly and we quite obviously needed a striker a lot more
 
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