Sergio Reguilón

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I dont think United are overly concerned in bringing a left back to the club this summer.

By all accounts Madrid put this deal forward for us ,yet before Reguilon was put on the market I saw very little news regarding a potential fullback option this summer.

In a nutshell,this will be the beginning and end of our search for a fullback atleast in this window,is my not-so bold prediction.
 
andersj said:
We would not accept a buy back of €40m? So we would put our nose up to a return on investment of 30 %? And, if RM decided they wanted him back, probably two great years from a fullback?

We have not had a good fullback in several years. I would not mind two good years at all.
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Glad you are not in charge of United. Small time thinking that.
 
Kearnkoff69 said:
Happy to admit if my perception is wrong, but I recall him getting a run of games at RB for the U23s a couple years ago. What made that stick in my mind was the commentary through that stretch of games being something along the lines of "he played RB through 16 and was shifted to the left because of how good Laird was" in the context of him covering the right flank being an easy positional shift for him. As I said, that perception comes from a couple years ago and obviously you're one of the foremost youth team experts on here so I fully believe if you say that is not correct, for whatever reason it's what I remember.
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He only played twice for the u23s a couple of years ago and both were at LB. He never really played for the u23s much. He did play 3 or so games at RB for the u18s a couple seasons ago but he played 30+ at LB.

He often played CB in the lower age groups and has always been versatile being used as a RW and LW at times too. We move kids all over the place so he’ll have played a bit of RB but he was at no point ever an actual RB or known as a RB. At 14 he was described as a CB.
 
We have Shaw as the starting LB and for me the current market presents a opportunity for us to bring in a young player with high potential for the role who is naturally left footed that could be a able understudy with a view to eventually taking over from Shaw. Fullbacks going forward are a must for any club that adopts a proactive approach and it's a position we should reinforce.

I personally hope we target young players like Nuno Mendes or Rayan Ait Nouri..
 
I fail to understand why some United fans, especially on Twitter :rolleyes: are raging at him possibly going to Spurs over us.

One, it seems that this deal has been offered to us pushed by Madrid and agents rather than United actively going after the player and two we won't accept a buyback clause. United aren't that desperate where if a player turns out to be superstar, Madrid will take him back for a cheap price compared to what he's really worth and flog him on at a massive profit. If he goes to Spurs the deal is a win win for Real Madrid
 
Madridista2000 said:
First of all RM and the people doing these deals are not dumb. So they actually have another clause as well that say something like " right to match" In order to avoid the above scenario.

Why would United and Spurs get together to feck Real? Real-United or Real-Spurs are not league rivals. Does not make sense. It's professional business not kids getting miffed.
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Unfekingbelievable isn't it. :lol:
 
FrankDrebin said:
I dont think United are overly concerned in bringing a left back to the club this summer.

By all accounts Madrid put this deal forward for us ,yet before Reguilon was put on the market I saw very little news regarding a potential fullback option this summer.

In a nutshell,this will be the beginning and end of our search for a fullback atleast in this window,is my not-so bold prediction.
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I hope this isn't true. I don't trust Luke Shaw to hold together given the fixture swamp coming up and Brandon Williams is far from a left back.

I don't mind walking away from these rubbish demands by Real but hopefully there's a fallback option.
 
madzo2007 said:
I fail to understand why some United fans, especially on Twitter :rolleyes: are raging at him possibly going to Spurs over us.

One, it seems that this deal has been offered to us pushed by Madrid and agents rather than United actively going after the player and two we won't accept a buyback clause. United aren't that desperate where if a player turns out to be superstar, Madrid will take him back for a cheap price compared to what he's really worth and flog him on at a massive profit. If he goes to Spurs the deal is a win win for Real Madrid
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Not true, they get to match an offer.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
I hope this isn't true. I don't trust Luke Shaw to hold together given the fixture swamp coming up and Brandon Williams is far from a left back.

I don't mind walking away from these rubbish demands by Real but hopefully there's a fallback option.
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I hope so too but I dont think we're that concerned with bringing in a fullback this summer.
 
just read, not sure if this is accurate, spurs would pay 30 million euros, with Real having a buy back within 2 yrs of 35 million euros. With Marcelo potentially retiring next season, it's basically a glorified loan.
 
BluesJr said:
You clearly don't really get the huge problem with signing a player to develop for RM. We get a good season out of him and he's gone. That's completely pointless. It isn't future proof and it certainly isn't a move you see top clubs ever making.
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Yeah I guess I just don't see it as a huge problem. On the other hand I do see our depth of available LBs for this season as a huge problem.

*edit to continue* And regarding the last part -- I really don't care about that. Who gives a shit if top clubs ever do that? We should try to set up a quality squad so that we can win football matches and win trophies, not worried about people on Twitter making jokes at our expense because we aren't doing things that top clubs do.
 
limerickcitykid said:
He only played twice for the u23s a couple of years ago and both were at LB. He never really played for the u23s much. He did play 3 or so games at RB for the u18s a couple seasons ago but he played 30+ at LB.

He often played CB in the lower age groups and has always been versatile being used as a RW and LW at times too. We move kids all over the place so he’ll have played a bit of RB but he was at no point ever an actual RB or known as a RB. At 14 he was described as a CB.
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Stand corrected. Don't know why I had in my head that I'd seen him on both flanks before.
 
FrankDrebin said:
I dont think United are overly concerned in bringing a left back to the club this summer.

By all accounts Madrid put this deal forward for us ,yet before Reguilon was put on the market I saw very little news regarding a potential fullback option this summer.

In a nutshell,this will be the beginning and end of our search for a fullback atleast in this window,is my not-so bold prediction.
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Pretty much this. We weren't in the market for a LB, but we were offered one at a reasonable price and so we explored the possibility of signing him. We didn't want to pay a great deal for him, we didn't want a buy back clause either. So when Spurs came in will to pay the asking price and the agreed to the buy out clause, that was it.

And fan thinking we should accept those same terms because 'we aren't a big club anymore,' need to give their heads a wobble.
 
poleglass red said:
just read, not sure if this is accurate, spurs would pay 30 million euros, with Real having a buy back within 2 yrs of 35 million euros. With Marcelo potentially retiring next season, it's basically a glorified loan.
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But in this situation, Spurs get a quality player on loan, and 5m euros.
 
VanGaalyTime said:
But in this situation, Spurs get a quality player on loan, and 5m euros.
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Or he flops and they're 30m worse off. Or Madrid activate the buy back clause and they're stuck where they were 2 years ago, only now they've got to find another fullback at good as him in a recovered market.
 
Having principles is great and all but we’re not at the top table anymore and need to stop acting like we are. Unless we’re actually willing to do what other big clubs do and invest properly in our squad.
 
We should avoid this like the plague.
We want players who want to give their all for the club and not someone who would rather be elsewhere like we experienced with Di Maria ( the dog)
 
VanGaalyTime said:
But in this situation, Spurs get a quality player on loan, and 5m euros.
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They could take him back in January if he comes alive from the start. You cant plan around that.
Imagine Madrid get injuries due to the schdule (a likely scenario) and decide to take him back.
Its that precarious
 
ivaldo said:
Or he flops and they're 30m worse off. Or Madrid activate the buy back clause and they're stuck where they were 2 years ago, only now they've got to find another fullback at good as him in a recovered market.
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Yeah. It's a shite deal. We should steer clear.
 
It should be - and thankfully seems to be - a club policy to never, ever accept a buyback clause in any deal. Desire to play for the club, to grow here, to succeed here should be the absolute basic requirement for any potential new signing. No player should walk into Manchester United with the intention of using us a stepping stone.

Even aside from the 'morality' of it; it's just a massive distraction. If Reguillon puts a few good games together, you know the speculation about Madrid re-signing him is going to start. If he scores a banger, are you going to catch yourself mid-celebration thinking 'another step closer to Madrid'?

That said, I do think we need to beef up our full-back options. For me, at this point in time, Shaw is the only one who's actually competent...and even with him you've got the very real fitness concerns. We're a far, far poorer team when Shaw's out and it would have been nice to have a backup/competition.

Right-back is arguably the bigger issue, with no players I really trust. Lamptey at Brighton has looked like a potential star for the past 6 months, but there's no way we're buying a right-back any time soon after spending £50m on AWB. Can only hope Laird shines.
 
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Not having this. Signing him would have made great sense as we could have used Shaw for more defensive/cagey matches and put Williams as second choice right back, his preferred position. UGH.
 
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Adam-Utd said:
Not really we just didn’t want to accept a buy back clause - similar to Haaland not getting a release clause.

yes it’s frustrating but if other clubs want to bend over then fine?
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We could have accepted a first refusal on the deal. If we wanted to sell him, who cares if he goes back to Madrid?
 
Quinzaine said:
What a load of rubbish. There's absolutely nothing to suggest Brandon Williams is anywhere near the talent level of Reguilon. We were significantly poorer going forward and defensively when Shaw got injured - Williams wasn't an adequate replacement by any means.

Watched Reguilon play for Spain and he was one of the best players on a pitch full of top-class players. Everything indicates that Williams' ceiling is a player who will at best be our back up right-back (even that seems unlikely given AWB and Laird are superior) whereas Reguilon was voted the best left-back in La Liga last season and Madrid want a buy-back clause inserted in his contract. Different level altogether.

That's not to say Reguilon is one of the top 5 LB's in the world or is the best option out there. He's probably a level below that but that level is still miles ahead of Brandon Williams if we aren't being completely deluded right here.
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What a load of rubbish. Williams just turned 20 and had his first season of senior football. Where was Reguilon at the same age?

“Everything indicates” wtf is that? Maybe the new long term contract the kid signed just a month ago? Williams is an extremely talented young full back, also versatile and will have a good future here. Reguilon is 4 year senior and more proven, but nothing indicates that Williams can’t get to that level. I’ve watched Brandon through the youth teams and the kid has always been a standout performer, writing him off after a bad patch is laughable.

And then you also throw Laird into the conversation while the kid barely played senior football and can’t catch a break from injuries. Talk about a load of rubbish with a post like that.
 
poleglass red said:
just read, not sure if this is accurate, spurs would pay 30 million euros, with Real having a buy back within 2 yrs of 35 million euros. With Marcelo potentially retiring next season, it's basically a glorified loan.
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Yep the club are just right to tell them to stick it up their hole.
 
Surely people have learnt we want players who want to play for the club and not mercenaries, which Reguilón would be, if he wants a clause which allows him to go back to Madrid!
 
Kostov said:
What a load of rubbish. Williams just turned 20 and had his first season of senior football. Where was Reguilon at the same age?

“Everything indicates” wtf is that? Maybe the new long term contract the kid signed just a month ago? Williams is an extremely talented young full back, also versatile and will have a good future here. Reguilon is 4 year senior and more proven, but nothing indicates that Williams can’t get to that level. I’ve watched Brandon through the youth teams and the kid has always been a standout performer, writing him off after a bad patch is laughable.

And then you also throw Laird into the conversation while the kid barely played senior football and can’t catch a break from injuries. Talk about a load of rubbish with a post like that.
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Come on mate, this is rose-tinted glasses if I've ever seen it. I know we of the Caf love to big-up the youth, but if you watched the semi-final and think Brandon Williams will ever match the quality that Reguilon showed, then I guess I wish I was as optimistic as you are.

I just don't see that as realistic, at all. I am a big fan of Brandon earning his minutes and doing well, but sometimes it needs more than just passion.
 
manuchamp88 said:
We could have accepted a first refusal on the deal. If we wanted to sell him, who cares if he goes back to Madrid?
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Yes that’s what I find strange from the reports, obviously don’t want the buy back clause but why flat out refuse the first refusal clause if we did want to sell him in the future, who cares where he goes at that stage?
 
Is the deal that bad? It is practically a loan where Tottenham will get compensated if he turns out any good.

They sign him for €30m and have him for two years. If he turns out any good, he will return to Real Madrid for a fee, most likely, bigger than €30m.

If he is as good as people say on here, I think it is a pretty good idea.
 
Buy back clause, you know? Real are on a piss take.

Club did well telling them to feck off
 
Untd55 said:
Is the deal that bad? It is practically a loan where Tottenham will get compensated if he turns out any good.

They sign him for €30m and have him for two years. If he turns out any good, he will return to Real Madrid for a fee, most likely, bigger than €30m.

If he is as good as people say on here, I think it is a pretty good idea.
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Thing is, say there was no buy back and its a 3 year contract... Wouldn't he then just leave on a free at the end of it?
 
Hugh Jass said:
Accepting a buy back clause is a sign of weakness really.
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It is.

Called it when it was mooted. Utd won’t agree any sort of buy back arrangement. It would make us subservient to Madrid. It would set a precedent, and wouldn’t just affect that player, Real could use it as leverage in any other future negotiations.

Very glad to have walked away from this, it the clubs was insisted upon either from the player or the club.

It’s not a priority signing in any case.
 
Sea-Cow said:
Come on mate, this is rose-tinted glasses if I've ever seen it. I know we of the Caf love to big-up the youth, but if you watched the semi-final and think Brandon Williams will ever match the quality that Reguilon showed, then I guess I wish I was as optimistic as you are.

I just don't see that as realistic, at all. I am a big fan of Brandon earning his minutes and doing well, but sometimes it needs more than just passion.
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I really don’t understand how some of you can predict a young players future so fast and decisively. 5 months ago he was better than Shaw now he supposedly will never be as good as Sergio Reguilon who has had 4 more years of development. I think you are both overrating the Spaniard and underrating Brandon.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
It is.

Called it when it was mooted. Utd won’t agree any sort of buy back arrangement. It would make us subservient to Madrid. It would set a precedent, and wouldn’t just affect that player, Real could use it as leverage in any other future negotiations.

Very glad to have walked away from this, it the clubs was insisted upon either from the player or the club.

It’s not a priority signing in any case.
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Totally agree. It also would have made Ole look feeble. You could never imagine Ferguson accepting such a thing. He would tell whoever to feck off.
 
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