gajender
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The very fact that such a thread even exists and also getting traction is a sad indictment of how far United have fallen .
We should have taken the £30m for McTominay and Fred probably would've taken a pay cut.
What is he earning now at Fenerbahce?
What's baffling is Mount's signing
Not long before we have a similar thread about Rojo.The very fact that such a thread even exists and also getting traction is a sad indictment of how far United have fallen .
McTominay doesnt want to leave. Neither does Macguire.
We can accept any offer, but its useless unless the player agrees to move.
Players dont take pay cuts. Fred will be doing just fine at Fenerbahce.
Pretty sure that wasn’t the plan was itIf we didn't sign an upgrade then it was obviously not the right thing to sell Fred. Our midfield performances so far only reinforce this. Obviously if we bought a De Jong or similar player, it would be different, but so far, all we have is a loan and Mount (who is obviously a very different skillset player).
Nah I think getting him in for a preseason with our players/tactics and be available for difficult games would of been a better plan than a last ditch loan deal likeAmrabat is the replacement. Obviously would have liked him in earlier, but i think United played it pretty well to leave it late and get him on a loan to buy deal, thus pushing the FFP burdon to next year.
It seems all these lean years Post Sir Alex's Retirement have made United's fanbase bit more acceptable of mediocrity .Not long before we have a similar thread about Rojo.
The very fact that such a thread even exists and also getting traction is a sad indictment of how far United have fallen .
For a contract extension into their 30's, some do.
Why's that then? Made your mind up on a player after 2 games for us?
De Gea yes, Henderson not so much.Getting rid of De Gea and selling Henderson were mistakes too.
Nah I think getting him in for a preseason with our players/tactics and be available for difficult games would of been a better plan than a last ditch loan deal like
If anything United sold too few midfielders. Fred was the obvious choice as he was in his last year of contract and at 30 y.o. Scott was the second one as his market value had peaked thanks to his NT appearances and wasn't getting more minutes under Ten Hag, but United somehow rejected a 30M offer (this could have meant, at the very least, securing Amrabat earlier).
The third one was VDB but that was a tough sell as he's still injured, so sending him on loan (as he's still young and could get better enough to be either a squad option or a decente value sale) would have been the smart choice. Then you would have got 3 out (McFred+DVB) and 4 in (Mount, Amrabat, Mainoo and Mejbri). The problem is, 3 of those 4 are injured and the other one isn't trusted enough by ETH so the midfield options are limited to Case-Eriksen-Bruno with McTominay as the first sub. This should solve itself soon.
We have a surplus of midfielders now. Bruno, Mount, Eriksen, Casemiro, Mainoo, McTominay and Amrabat. We've also got Hannibal who's stayed instead of gone out on loan. Fred's minutes going to Mainoo and Hannibal is much better.We always need depth in midfield. We were never going to overhaul the midfield this summer. It made much more sense, considering it usually costs a few million to loan players anyway, to keep Fred for a year. A good option for fifth/sixth choice
Getting rid of De Gea and selling Henderson were mistakes too.
The very fact that such a thread even exists and also getting traction is a sad indictment of how far United have fallen .
Our only high-energy number 8 shouldn't have been sold and definitely not while keeping the likes of McTominay.
The hope is Hannibal could replace him but today's involvement seems more like desperation than a planned move.
Exactly. It’s like people saying ‘We shouldn’t have sold de Gea as Heaton isn’t good enough’ before we bought Onana. RidiculousThis thread is just proof people are impatient. The replacements haven't even played yet.
'Smart' ??We didn't get rid of De Gea. His contract was up. Refusing to extend him for another 4 years at 200k/week was a smart move.
See how diverse opinions are.De Gea yes, Henderson not so much.
Uh, yes. You think we should've held on to him for another four years at enormous wages? Because those were the agreed terms.'Smart' ??
100%You can see how some of the fanbase has lowered expectation if they think selling Fred was a mistake. He was shit 95% of the time and once Amrabat is fit you will see a big difference to our midfield. There was probably a hundred better midfielders we could have bought in the summer for the money we paid for him years ago.
No, Fred was shit.
Not replacing him with better players was a mistake. We also tried to sell McTominay
I am talking from a tactical POV mate. We now have 4 natural no 10s (Bruno, mount, eriksen and vdb), one of whom is the captain. In my opinion we should have gone for a more hardworking deep lying playmaker who can play as DM. We are trying to shoehorn a no 10 in the dlp role instead.
If anything United sold too few midfielders. Fred was the obvious choice as he was in his last year of contract and at 30 y.o. Scott was the second one as his market value had peaked thanks to his NT appearances and wasn't getting more minutes under Ten Hag, but United somehow rejected a 30M offer (this could have meant, at the very least, securing Amrabat earlier).
The third one was VDB but that was a tough sell as he's still injured, so sending him on loan (as he's still young and could get better enough to be either a squad option or a decente value sale) would have been the smart choice. Then you would have got 3 out (McFred+DVB) and 4 in (Mount, Amrabat, Mainoo and Mejbri). The problem is, 3 of those 4 are injured and the other one isn't trusted enough by ETH so the midfield options are limited to Case-Eriksen-Bruno with McTominay as the first sub. This should solve itself soon.
I hear you, but ETH must have a clear plan for him. Maybe he sees him more as box to box, but he was his priority signing for a reason. The criticism of the Mount signing is crazy - people can't wait pile on. We need to give the guy a chance.
We've just been unlucky with Mainoo and Mount injuries.No, Fred was shit.
Not replacing him with better players was a mistake. We also tried to sell McTominay
The mistake was selling him and not getting anyone until the last day of the window. And he’s not even healthy to play yet. When other serious teams have two-three quality options in that position, we can barely field one.