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Pretty sure the OP is Jose Mourinho.
Pretty sure the OP is Jose Mourinho.
Selling Fellaini was a mistake
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No it wasn't. Nice thread though.
FFS. We lost to a better team, largely due to a piss poor referee and 2 big injuries to our team.
Calm down, selling Fellaini was not a mistake. Even I felt during the game that PSG looked vulnerable to hoofball but let's not forget how vulnerable hoofball used to leave us!
The difference was the strength in depth. They lost Neymar, Cavani and Munier but had AdM, Mbappe and Dani Alves.
We had a finished Sanchez and an ineffective Mata. Thier second choice RB is twice the player our first choice is.
Calm down, selling Fellaini was not a mistake. Even I felt during the game that PSG looked vulnerable to hoofball but let's not forget how vulnerable hoofball used to leave us!
The difference was the strength in depth. They lost Neymar, Cavani and Munier but had AdM, Mbappe and Dani Alves.
We had a finished Sanchez and an ineffective Mata. Thier second choice RB is twice the player our first choice is.
Fellaini would not have made a difference in that game. Tuchel did his research and gave us a master class in using our tactics against us. Fella would have been off after 10 minutes on a straight red for excessive use of the elbows.
Having fellaini as a battering ram to win stuff as our plan a is a big no.
But selling him just to save up 100k per week on the current market where anyone who could runabit cost tens of millions is stupid. We need fellaini at some point of the game. Being a purist in football seldom works, sometimes you need that bit of muscle to close the game up.
So yeah. Buying fellaini is a mistake but selling him last month mid campaign is more stupid
But selling him just to save up 100k per week on the current market where anyone who could runabit cost tens of millions is stupid. We need fellaini at some point of the game. Being a purist in football seldom works, sometimes you need that bit of muscle to close the game up.
So yeah. Buying fellaini is a mistake but selling him last month mid campaign is more stupid
We needs to sell Lukaku and Sanchez and release Mata. Bring in attackers that fit. Simple.
It’s true what they say, absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Not signing Peter Crouch last month was a mistake.
Rubbish thread, it wasn't about who played from our side rather than how compact PSG were defensively and how well their plan in nullifying Pogba and Martial worked. We conceded from a corner after Matic failed to track his man and the second goal we allowed Mbappe to make a lot of ground to slot home, it was stupid defensive mistakes that let us down, not sure how having Fellaini would have helped, we lost both flanks at HT, enough said, selling Fellaini was a great piece of business as no PL clubs showed interest in him in any case, so good riddance.
Oooh he went there!
I don't see the value in this argument. It's not like bringing on Fellaini is guaranteed to give us some magical edge in the game. Because he's largely a shite footballer anyway. There's plenty of games where he has come on / started and done nothing of note against really average teams.
We got 7m for him + saved up some money in wages. It's better to use it next season to add an extra bit of quality rather than thinking in the short term.
Man it is just this weird arrongance. 'We don't need him' despite the fact he could have been very useful with all the crosses we were putting in last night. He was scapegoated and made out as every thing wrong with the club, but there we were, crossing to midgets like Sanchez, Mata and a striker that is unable to get at the end of crosses.
Mata and Sanchez apparently fits with the 'type of football we want to play', but in reality they offer little. He'd probably have been a much better sub than all the options we had on the bench.
Never change, caf!
I guess im the only one but i totally agree with the poster. We all agree we can do better than Fellaini but simple fact is that he is better than Mctominay, better than Perrera and better than Fred. Heck he is even better than Lukaku and Sanchez in their current form. Sure we probably would still have lost but surely there is a reason for subs and that is to offer alternatives. What alternatives did we have? 0. Only attackers in poor form and some unproven kids in midfield.
Cut off our noses to spite our face - slag off a player that gave his all for united just to have a scapegoat for our failures.
I still think we should have sold him- but in summer or when we have the opportunity to buy a better replacement. Whats the point of laughing at Fellaini as an option when we cant even field a better alternative.
Cut off our noses to spite our face - slag off a player that gave his all for united just to have a scapegoat for our failures.
I still think we should have sold him- but in summer or when we have the opportunity to buy a better replacement. Whats the point of laughing at Fellaini as an option when we cant even field a better alternative.
Fellaini could have saved Brexit too
Inevitable people would come to this conclusion, some did after the Burnley game. Fellaini didn’t do anything when we were outclassed by City and Liverpool and he probably wouldn’t have done anything last night either.
Selling him has been a positive step and he rarely improved the team as a sub.
Selling him has been a positive step and he rarely improved the team as a sub.
I hate threads like that.
In order to be able to find the right answers, you first need to remove the sub-par answers from the equation. Fellaini has been a sub-par answer for too long.
Relying on Fellaini shows a complete lack of ambition. We really need to stop rewarding mediocrity and axing Fellaini was a good first step. Now we just need to do the same with a few other deadwood players.
Relying on Fellaini shows a complete lack of ambition. We really need to stop rewarding mediocrity and axing Fellaini was a good first step. Now we just need to do the same with a few other deadwood players.
Under Fergie we chased the game by throwing up to four top class strikers on the pitch at once. How many top class strikers do we have in our squad right now?
Selling Fellaini is never a mistake.
After several months of complaining about Mourinho football, one loss and people already clamoring for Mourinho football to return?
Too soon
I don't think it was a mistake per say but the big guy is a plan B all by himself and that's a very useful tool to have sometimes. He is worth more than that to a lot of clubs though hence the transfer.
Whatever Fellaini was, he's not our answer. We're better off being where we are, seeing weaknesses and addressing them (hopefully) than papering over the cracks with a player who, with respect to him, often played above his level, but the issue was the level wasn't enough for United. A player panic-bought 3 managers ago. Phil Neville collected him from the airport. Always rember that when P Nev is pontificating on R5.
We needed something else in midfield first of all. Dani fecking Alves was running rings around Matic and Hererra. We need a class player in CM, one that can dictate the game. Until we don't get one, this team will only get top4.
Second of all, we needed Ashley Young to not be completely thrash.
Third of all, they isolated our left flank, which is our only way of attacking at this moment.
In simple English for the CAF, they have better players than us, simple simple resolution.
I appreciate Ole for trying, Paul and Matic for running their heart out last night, but it's not a "we need something else when Tony and Lingard don't play", it's a "we need 4-5 quality players all around" in order to compete with good teams.
I know most of us were hyped for the game and all, but you also need to check the reality, that you're playing a UCL tie vs PSG with 5-6 second hand players in the starting 11. Compare the 08 team that won UCL with the 11 we had now playing vs PSG and you'll get your answers.
Second of all, we needed Ashley Young to not be completely thrash.
Third of all, they isolated our left flank, which is our only way of attacking at this moment.
In simple English for the CAF, they have better players than us, simple simple resolution.
I appreciate Ole for trying, Paul and Matic for running their heart out last night, but it's not a "we need something else when Tony and Lingard don't play", it's a "we need 4-5 quality players all around" in order to compete with good teams.
I know most of us were hyped for the game and all, but you also need to check the reality, that you're playing a UCL tie vs PSG with 5-6 second hand players in the starting 11. Compare the 08 team that won UCL with the 11 we had now playing vs PSG and you'll get your answers.
Ha ha nice wind up OP. Threadlock imminent I should think.
This thread is either completely kneejerk or a massive WUM.
It would better off if we had a better way to break down teams on this level without relying on crosses
I still have a feeling that selling Fellaini was to please the fans. He was always a very reliable player to use in games where things weren't going our way. Might not have made that much of a difference last night since PSG were on another level but still.
How often did we really play with 4 strikers under Fergie though?
It was great to have the likes of Sheringham and Solskjaer and later Hernandez on the bench as options and for a lot of games no doubt we ended up with 3 strikers on the pitch.
But i don't think we regularly played with 4 strikers if ever.
This thread will get bumped every time we lose a match I guess.
Selling Fellaini is one of the few good decisions the board has done the past few years. I'm tired of turning to Fellaini to save us every time, its pathetic to claim you are a top club and be this dependent on Fellaini to save the day. We might as well get on with it and learn how to play without him rather sooner than later.
Besides, he has wanted to leave us for a while so I'm happy for him that he finally got his wish.
Now I seriously hope the board has another midfielder lined up. I don't want no fecking Neymar or Bale, make some smart purchases this summer and we can compete.
Besides, he has wanted to leave us for a while so I'm happy for him that he finally got his wish.
Now I seriously hope the board has another midfielder lined up. I don't want no fecking Neymar or Bale, make some smart purchases this summer and we can compete.
When we were chasing a game it definitely wasn’t unusual for us to have four strikers on the pitch by the end of the game. Like you say, though, ending up with three strikers happened regularly enough. It’s kind of fecked (and couldn’t be more different to United under Fergie) that we arguably don’t have a single world class specialist centre forward in our squad.
Completely agree, he might have not been the Plan B we should have but he was effective as a curveball and it seems like we didn't think about what our plan b would actually be when selling him. Some would rather be purist and keep doing failed tactics during a game.
Ole can't moan about options really. A side of his management he'll develop I'm sure.
Ole can't moan about options really. A side of his management he'll develop I'm sure.
Yeah that must be why no decent club was interested in him on a free and he had to go to China for an absolute joke of a transfer fee (£7m).
The "oh plenty of big clubs would love to have him" used to be the deluded go-to line in defense of Fellaini. Can't still use it now mate.
Well i agree there, Rashford has the potential but Lukaku is crap this year. I still have some hope that Lukaku could be a useful player if he finds his form but yeah we have a severe lack of quality in attacking areas. We still have no one in the squad capable of playing as a right winger. Which for Manchester United is nuts.
Feck Fellaini. Why the hell did you guys sell Alexander Büttner. I bet you lot were also celebrating when SAF sold Japp Stam.
Should never have been signed in the first place, he is no loss to United.
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