sell becks get young players

Gerry Holyfield

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i just dont see why we dont sell becks to real madrid for all that money. if we happened to get an offer for 38m i dont see why we wont take it. with the money we will get we can gte young players and make them good.

I think we will play not that bad without him too cuz we have class players like scholes giggs veron keane and even butt. i think we shoudl buy some young talents like defoe or duff or rooney!!!! what do you guys think?

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I can see the logic, without being a Beckham-hater, we should let him go for that kind of money people are talking about, cause we can get that many good young players, whom probably are on the same level as becks...

I DO NOT HATE BECKS
 
It's bleeding obvious for that type of cash.

Toodle Pip Beckham, thanks for the crosses!

What you could do with 40 million readies. :eek:
 
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Well TBH it wasn't a rumour, but rather a feeling on whether we should cash in on him and whether he is past it, but thanks for telling us about the move anyway! ;)
 
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I was being polite for the new guy it being his first post and all.

As for you weaste - feck off!! ;)
 
Is Niall giving up smoking or something? Seems to have an itchy finger lately.
 
i also think we should sell phil and maybe even gary neville if we need to because they aren't really that good and we could buy duff.

by the way niall you don't have to be polite just cuz im new here!
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Toodle Pip Beckham, thanks for the crosses!

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feck the cockney bastard off I say! Cash him in.

He aint that good, not that sort of money! :D
 
If we got £30m i'd be well chuffed.
 
Bloody great business if you ask me. We could buy one really excellent top class player and another two or three very good ones for the amount of money the press are going on about.

Cost nowt either!

Hey, we could pull:

Torres (Dont want that curly haired one thanks)
Denilson
Joaquin
Escude

for that type of cash + our already waiting money in the bank!

Should we sell Giggsy too while we're at it? :eek:

Blanc
May
Chadwick
Giggs
Beckham

All out.

Those last two would provide a rather tasty war chest of around 60 million quid. Good god!

Daft idea to do that though.

Two decent players in, no more. Possibly one or two more on top to make the numbers up.

Why not just give Real Madrid Beckham and Giggs in exchange for Raul? + 10 million. We could then purchase two wingers (Denilson and Joaquin) and be sorted! ;)
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong> We could then purchase two wingers (Denilson and Joaquin) and be sorted! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

and betis are just waiting to give them to us...

if money were no concern would you buy anyone in england weaste? everyone of your suggestions is someone from the continent.
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Owen
Pires
Beattie
Gerrard
Duff
Carr

Not going to get many of them though are we?

It's easier today, like it or not, to buy players from abroad. Big clubs just do not want to sell to their direct competitiors.
 
Originally posted by farawaylands:
<strong>and betis are just waiting to give them to us...</strong><hr></blockquote>

For a joint fee of around 30 million quid I would think they would. A club like Real betis could do marvels with such a quantity of money.
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and i would imagine they would rather deal us than Joaquin's other suitor.... Real Madrid
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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For a joint fee of around 30 million quid I would think they would. A club like Real betis could do marvels with such a quantity of money.</strong><hr></blockquote>

how much did they shell out for denilson? was it 20 million or more? getting both of them for 30 million wouldn't be bad business, but i don't know how well we could rely on denilson for consistency.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Owen
Pires
Beattie
Gerrard
Duff
Carr

Not going to get many of them though are we?

It's easier today, like it or not, to buy players from abroad. Big clubs just do not want to sell to their direct competitiors.</strong><hr></blockquote>

although i'm not crazy about them at the right price i think united could get beatie and duff. i can't see us buying anyone off liverpool or arsenal.
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Don't sell Beckham. Don't see Giggs. Buy young players who will eventually replace them and let them work as understudies for a couple of years before gradually phasing them into the starting XI.
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Don't sell Beckham. Don't see Giggs. Buy young players who will eventually replace them and let them work as understudies for a couple of years before gradually phasing them into the starting XI.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That would be the ideal situation but unfortunately the law of finance dictates that we need to sell to buy the kind of young players we should be going after eg quaresma.
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To be honest I really dont think a club with the financial backing like us should need to worry about spending a good 10m.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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the law of finance dictates</strong><hr></blockquote>

i've never heard of that law. oh well...

at anyrate the buying youngsters seems does seem good in theory. but every football wants to play and enjoys the attention it brings them. we might be able to poach defoe from west ham if they get relegated. but otherwise why would young players want to come to united to be understudies and maybe have a chance to replace older players when they can keep playing first team football? even the youngsters at united seem impatient and seem to jump boat rather quickly...granted the current crop of ex-united youths (greening, wallwork) and those that want to leave (chadwick it seems) may not be "united material" but they also seem fed up at not getting a chance to prove themselves.
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Originally posted by farawaylands:
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i've never heard of that law. oh well...

at anyrate the buying youngsters seems does seem good in theory. but every football wants to play and enjoys the attention it brings them. we might be able to poach defoe from west ham if they get relegated. but otherwise why would young players want to come to united to be understudies and maybe have a chance to replace older players when they can keep playing first team football? even the youngsters at united seem impatient and seem to jump boat rather quickly...granted the current crop of ex-united youths (greening, wallwork) and those that want to leave (chadwick it seems) may not be "united material" but they also seem fed up at not getting a chance to prove themselves.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The age gap is about right though. Giggsy's no spring chicken anymore. Becks is a just a couple years younger.
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Originally posted by spinoza:
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The age gap is about right though. Giggsy's no spring chicken anymore. Becks is a just a couple years younger.</strong><hr></blockquote>

that's true. i was thinking about that while i was writing the previous posts. chadwick, wallwork and greening had not chance to get in when the current midfield was at their peak. while today's upcoming lads hopefully could push for a spot and serve as decent replacements for injured players.
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We won't sell Beckham because we make shitloads of money out of him. 38m is not enough. If somebody came up with 50m offer we should and would sell.

And anyway, we don't have to sell players because we needed the money. We need to sell players because if we don't our squad will grow too big. Or that's what Kenyon thinks.
 
Originally posted by vijay_vr:
<strong>If we sell Beckham for 38 million we could get
1)Joaquin
2)Torres
3)Van der Vaart.
Our team would be much better.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What makes you think the price tag of Joaquin will not be 38 million, if he is better? I think the rumour is just completely out of place.
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If we can get 40 mil for Becks we should let him go and then replace him with Ronaldinho and Shevchenko.
 
Originally posted by Vinay:
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What makes you think the price tag of Joaquin will not be 38 million, if he is better? I think the rumour is just completely out of place.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Of Course its a silly rumour.I dont think any one is worth 38 million.For your first question Joaquin is the next Figo.He plays along with average midfielders and forwards but still delivers.Bring him here and put him along with Giggs Veron Keane Scholes and Ruud and see what happens.Joaquin's buy out is 38 million but clubs will slap buy-out clause on their players to keep away their potential suitors.They will usually set an amount, and if someone pays it and reaches an agreement with the corresponding player, then he will leave.Buy-out clauses are negotiable against certain big clubs, who might offer a player-plus-cash deal.Moreover it's valid only in Spain.We could still get him in the 15-18 million bracket.
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Originally posted by Vinay:
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What makes you think the price tag of Joaquin will not be 38 million, if he is better? I think the rumour is just completely out of place.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Most of that 38 million is not for the player though is it, but rather his marketability. Joaquin is not in the same league on that front, you'd only be paying for the player, and in this day and age that would probably be in the 15-18 million mark.
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Originally posted by Wanker:
<strong>We won't sell Beckham because we make shitloads of money out of him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, I dont know about that TBH. If it's selling shirts you are talking about, I would hazard a guess that in markets such as Asia and South America, 95% of the shirts people wear are counterfeit.
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Originally posted by lchk:
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That would be the ideal situation but unfortunately the law of finance dictates that we need to sell to buy the kind of young players we should be going after eg quaresma.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nonsense. How many big names have we been forced to sell over the past 5 years in order to buy Rio, Seba, RVN, Barthez, and Forlan ? We've sold Stam, and that wasn't really for financial reasons since Lazio have yet to cough up.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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Well, I dont know about that TBH. If it's selling shirts you are talking about, I would hazard a guess that in markets such as Asia and South America, 95% of the shirts people wear are counterfeit.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes in Asia more than 80% of those shirts are counterfeit.
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Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Don't sell Beckham. Don't see Giggs. Buy young players who will eventually replace them and let them work as understudies for a couple of years before gradually phasing them into the starting XI.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's the Bayern Munich way...
There's a lot to be said for it.
However, they buy the best young talent - e.g. 5 million for Rocca-Sainta Cruz when he was unknown but the next big thing from S.A. That hasn't really worked out, so i guess that blows Bayern's strategy out of the water! What was my point? Shit, i should stop smoking...
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It's not about having to sell before buying, but more about being realistic enough to see Beckham is simply not worth anywhere near the amount of money being touted for him (I'll admit my ignorance regarding revenue from East Asia). Although I disagree with Weastie on who to replace him with, £38m in today's market is an absoloutely obscene amount of money and it would simply be folly to turn it down. I'm inclined to say the same about Giggs, but don't believe we'd be offered enough money for it to be worth letting him go. We should sell Beckham if we get £30m or above.
 
There's no chance Real would get 38mil back from Beck's brand name... just work out our profits from the last few years...

I would take 38million for Becks, we'd be fools not to...considering he's only got two years left on his contract, which would leave United in a precarious postion next year, taking in account the amount of time it took DB to sign an extension to his contract, last time around. IF we don't sell him this year, then he'll go on the 'cheap' next year...and the worst case senario is that he leaves on a FREE, the year after!


Truth is, Real are the ONLY club, outside of Manchester who can dish out obscene amounts of cash....

I don't believe we have to sell players at all, to raise cash for transfers... Selling Becks would just simply equate to good business.
 
Originally posted by Gerry Holyfield:
<strong>i also think we should sell phil and maybe even gary neville if we need to because they aren't really that good and we could buy duff.

by the way niall you don't have to be polite just cuz im new here!</strong><hr></blockquote>

oh great, another neville basher.
lets sell the nevilles after their best seasons in red shirts and bring in who?
and dont say Steve 'sicknote' Carr
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2 or 3 first eleven capable signings please, no more. Anything else is overkill and would cause more problems than it solves.
 
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