Sean Longstaff

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I think this could finally be some really good scouting on our part. He looks like he could become a top player. Anything over 35 million and we should be looking abroad though as there are still question marks and our scouting has been poor for a long time.
 
We need a new Geordie! If we can get him for £30ish million we should go for it.
What if he shines for Newcastle this season and ends up at shitty?
 
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Well Bruce is certainly more EPL proven then Ole is and the least said about owners who are mainly concerned about their personal finances the better.

Irrespective of that kids need regular first team football to develop, something top clubs can barely give them that.
Ex Sunderland boss, so not welcome on Tyneside, the fans are not at all happy about the appointment, even though he’s one of their own.
Ashley is actively selling their best players, the Glazers aren’t.
He’d certainly get games at United, as he’d instantly be our second best player for the Matic role, as we’ve no cover.
 
If you believe Jason Burt of the Telegraph, Mourinho used his personal scouts to sign the likes of Fred. Our Scouts have more or less been more influential at academy level in the past few years. Marcel Bout who was made head of global scouting in 2016 has had very little input with Mourinho at the helm. Bout is a very well known talent/opposition scout in the Netherlands and Germany and he along with the rest of our scouts have been badly under utilised in the last few years if Jason Burt is to be believed.

I have never seen mourinho so clueless with his signings before in any other club than This united under Woodward.
 


Better footage of him making passes along the ground which is important. Also looks two footed which is also very similar to carrick. whoscored lists passing as one of his weaknesses https://www.whoscored.com/Players/342811/Show/Sean-Longstaff ? Hope this is inaccurate. Wish we had more footage of him to be honest. The video doesn't show much in the tackling department or how he sets up defensively. Is he also an engine which is vital to our sqaud?

Newcastle are smoking if they think he is 50 million worth with only 10 PL games. Why dont they just give it to us for 30 mil? Player needs to force the move.


Real Madrid paid 45m for Vinicius junior after literally a couple of game in the Brazil league when he was under 18. To say he has only had 10 games so just be worth x amount doesn’t make any sense.

From what I have seen, I think this kid looks the real deal and I think if we like him we should secure him now. I’m sure A deal can be made to include appearances/ bonuses that suits everyone. Newcastle could ask for a lot more next year and other clubs might come calling too. This is when you trust your scouts.
 
I hope we aren't phased by the price. Of course Newcastle is going to try and get as much money as they can. Longstaff seems to have exactly what we need right now to take our attacking play to another level. Seeing the first half of the game against Perth Glory it became evident that we lack players with the vision to see that long pass for runners to attack the space. We either tried going through a condensed defense with tricky short passes, but that is just very dependent on luck, or played passes that made the runner have to stop to control it instead of picking it up with pace, which will just give defenders that bit of extra time they need.

He isn't the finished article, but given his attributes it would seem silly not paying up more than what we as fans might seem as wise. He would add that much to our game that we shouldn't pass it up.
 
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I think we should let the Coaching staff/Scouts and the club decide if he's worth it. If Carrick along with Bout and Lawlor believe he could reach a world class level, then that is good enough for me.

You have 150 posts in this thread and your level of "opinion" is well if the club think he's good then i do too? Brilliant.
 
I hope we aren't phased by the price. Of course Newcastle is going to try and get as much money as they can. Longstaff seems to have exactly what we need right now to take our attacking play to another level. Seeing the first half of the game against Perth Glory it became evident that we lack players with the vision to see that long pass for runners to attack the space. We either tried going through a condensed defense with tricky short passes, but that is just very dependent on luck. So many passes that made the runner have to stop to control it instead of picking it up with pace, that will just give defenders that bit of extra time they need.

He isn't the finished article, but given his attributes it would seem silly not paying up more than what we as fans might seem as wise. He would add that much to our game that we shouldn't pass it up.
Plus he's more mobile and quicker moving the ball about, I fear having matic sitting in front of back 4.
 
How can people say he is the new Carrick, after just 9 premiership games. We need a top experienced player for the DM role now, as Matic is too slow.
We have a guy here (Garner) who is playing here for the past few years, and looks more promising than what we have seen of Longstaff.
We should be giving him the chance to be the future DM.
 
How can people say he is the new Carrick, after just 9 premiership games. We need a top experienced player for the DM role now, as Matic is too slow.
We have a guy here (Garner) who is playing here for the past few years, and looks more promising than what we have seen of Longstaff.
We should be giving him the chance to be the future DM.

I don't think you can say Garner looks more promising when he's never played a premier league game of relevance.
 
How can people say he is the new Carrick, after just 9 premiership games. We need a top experienced player for the DM role now, as Matic is too slow.
We have a guy here (Garner) who is playing here for the past few years, and looks more promising than what we have seen of Longstaff.
We should be giving him the chance to be the future DM.

Says who? Longstaff has premier league experience, even if its just 9 games, he's played against top teams already. Garner has proven absolutely nothing. Putting faith in someone completely unproven, is utterly mad, and I hope the club won't do it, even if so many on here seem desperate for us to be that naive.
 
If you believe Jason Burt of the Telegraph, Mourinho used his personal scouts to sign the likes of Fred. Our Scouts have more or less been more influential at academy level in the past few years. Marcel Bout who was made head of global scouting in 2016 has had very little input with Mourinho at the helm. Bout is a very well known talent/opposition scout in the Netherlands and Germany and he along with the rest of our scouts have been badly under utilised in the last few years if Jason Burt is to be believed.

Wasn't Bout LVG's man. LvG track record regarding transfers is hardly spectacular
 
How can people say he is the new Carrick, after just 9 premiership games. We need a top experienced player for the DM role now, as Matic is too slow.
We have a guy here (Garner) who is playing here for the past few years, and looks more promising than what we have seen of Longstaff.
We should be giving him the chance to be the future DM.
Player with 9 games hasn't played enough to be good enough.

Player with no games is more promising though. :confused:

It's pretty ridiculous at a time where we are in absolute dire need of midfielders that people think we should not sign one because theres a kid in the academy who might be good enough in a couple years. We need one who can do it right now and besides theres loads of room for both. Matic will need to be replaced by next season and Pereira and Fred aren't good enough.
 
Longstaff seems to be our DM target. No way that Newcastle will sell him for 25m. It will more likely be 35m + 15m in add-ons. AWB just went for 50m but is proven in the PL.
 
You take their reported word on Garner so why can't you believe our backroom staff in their assessment of Longstaff?
And would you not think they like the idea of him being cheaper. Because if we really want a top proven DM we wouldn't be looking at Longstaff.
We are a long way behind the top clubs and should be looking at the best Midfielders.
Ndombele and Rodri were snapped up by our rivals, and we are in for an unproven player. We will fall further behind if this is the way we want to go.
We need to be going for the Partey's and Ruiz type players if we really want to catch up.
 
Partey really isn't all that, he's not exactly the sort of player to take us to the next level, or back up a level.
Well then go for the best, Mate. We are Manchester United and if we want to get back to the top, we need to bring in top players.
 
Newcastle have already sold Ayoze Perez, Joselu and Rondon for relatively cheap prices. But just because we are after Longstaff, Ashley is trying to rip us off by asking for 50m. We should negotiate like we did with AWB and bring the price down. Newcastle are not like Leicester or Wolves. They will sell if the offer is decent.
 
Newcastle have already sold Ayoze Perez, Joselu and Rondon for relatively cheap prices. But just because we are after Longstaff, Ashley is trying to rip us off by asking for 50m. We should negotiate like we did with AWB and bring the price down. Newcastle are not like Leicester or Wolves. They will sell if the offer is decent.
Rondon was a loanee. He has been sold by West Brom.

Certainly wouldn't call £30m for Ayoze Perez 'cheap'.
 
We can't get the best at the moment, which is why we're targeting young players with high potential.
Then I'm afraid it's going to take us a long long time to get back up there with the top teams, as they will pull further and further away. We have maybe 2 world class players ( on their day) in Pogba and De Gea, the rest are either not good enough for United or just passable. If we want to be challenging we need to be positive and bring in top world class players. We won't get these players unless we are in the Champions League each year.
We are still playing for that 4th position this coming season IMO. It depends on whether we bring in a couple of TOP midfielders and a replacement for Lukaku, if we reach this goal.
 
We're looking at a slow rebuild, but it worked for Liverpool. Throwing money at big names has done feck all for us lately.
How long has it taken Liverpool. Seems Klopp has finally got them on the right track, but how many managers have they went through since last winning the League which is their goal.
 
Cant really judge his accuracy or completed passes rate, but you can take out of the footage around two main features that makes you believe he will improve a lot our current midfield. First of them is that he doesnt take much time on the ball before releasing the pass, be it short or long, one or two touches at most and secondly when he does he can pass with both feet so that he's got a big range os positions from where to release a pass and eventually start and attack or recycle the ball. Thats something we are really lacking atm, and you could see it in the perth game, a lot of time was needed before a pass, be it forward or sideways, just see Matic, and if he can print some of that in our midfield I believe he will be an upgrade.

Also, it cannot hurt a lot to add numbers and depth to the squad, even with the tag of unproven, which, as someone pointed already, deasn't really translates that hes going to be shite.

On another hand, if Garner is able to step up and kickstart his carreer so that by the age of 21 he's better than Longstaff the who wouldn't rather that? give him a chance anyway.
 
Newcastle have already sold Ayoze Perez, Joselu and Rondon for relatively cheap prices. But just because we are after Longstaff, Ashley is trying to rip us off by asking for 50m. We should negotiate like we did with AWB and bring the price down. Newcastle are not like Leicester or Wolves. They will sell if the offer is decent.

Newcastle didnt sell Rondon for the reason he wasn't theirs to sell, as he only joined them on a loan deal and refuse to buy him as he turns 30 in Sept, Joselu only played 17 games last season and was way down Rafa's pecking order, is 29 and joined the mighty Alavez and his fee is undisclosed, the other lad was sold for 30 I think, scored 48 in 190 something games.

We need experience as it was AF greatest disaster before he left in not sorting the MF and I am sick of this one for the future, Jesus the last ones to really try that notion was the arsenal from 05 and look how well that went.
 
Ok so if not a lower league club, he wouldn't leave Newcastle who have no manager, just got rid of their two best attackers and are not gonna spend any money, for a team like wolves or Leicester even? He would. But they aren't in for him. I wonder why?
Longstaff is known to be a big Newcastle fan, and in no hurry to try and move clubs. This gives Newcastle the choice of fee.
 
Madrid bought him when he was 17. Longstaff is 21. A couple of games at 17 is impressive. A couple of games at 21, not so much...

Still young, plus it’s a completely different standard of league, plus people develop at different rates.
 
Presumed dead because our sources state we value the lad at 18-20m. Newcastle see him as a valuable part of their future and so would only sell for an insane amount and so have slapped a 50m price tag on his head. That gap in valuations seems to be insurmountable and in all probability we are looking at other targets. The best chance this gets revived is if Bruce shows up and decides he is not all that and tells Ashley to go ahead and cash in now.

"valuable part of their future"- not sure that applies to Newcastle, if it did they would have fought tooth and nail to keep Benetiz. He made it clear he wanted to stay but the boardroom had no ambition. They contacted Big Sam re the vacancy. All Newcastle are looking to do is stay in PL which for a club of their size isn't good enough.If they had any balls they would have appointed a young manager with fresh footballing ideas.
 
Madrid bought him when he was 17. Longstaff is 21. A couple of games at 17 is impressive. A couple of games at 21, not so much...

It was nine games which including points won vs City and Wolves and a couple of narrow defeats to Chelsea and Spurs. That’s not a bad set of games to come out smelling of roses from.
 
Then I'm afraid it's going to take us a long long time to get back up there with the top teams, as they will pull further and further away. We have maybe 2 world class players ( on their day) in Pogba and De Gea, the rest are either not good enough for United or just passable. If we want to be challenging we need to be positive and bring in top world class players. We won't get these players unless we are in the Champions League each year.
We are still playing for that 4th position this coming season IMO. It depends on whether we bring in a couple of TOP midfielders and a replacement for Lukaku, if we reach this goal.
Top class players are not coming to us atm, not without CL, we need to get used to that.
 
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