Xavi moaned every week about lack of talent at his Barcelona squad so I reckon he won't touch Everton with a 10 ft pole
Sean Dyche | Sacked in the evening
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He had to go, but a couple of hours before an FA Cup game? Classy.
His style of football was an upgrade on Parker's and Lopetegui's. Iraola has taken Bournemouth to the next level since then though. If Everton can find the next Iraola the fair enough. Moyes just seems like a very unimaginative appointment.
I don't think it will be Moyes. Think that's just an easy one for the bookies along with Mourinho.
Yeah, definitely agree with the second paragraph.
I don’t really know what the optics are with Everton at the moment in terms of financing, PSR etc. I just took a blanket assumption that you’re broke and you have been for a while. Could definitely tempt a little better if there is money to play with. Is a Branthwaite sale still necessary?
I don't think it's that clear yet but from what I've read the assumption is that this Jan our finances are still a bit tight but in the summer we should be in a better position due to the new ownership finances and sponsorship deals lined up with them related to things such as the stadium.
Good. He is a stain on football. A big ginger one.
He says he doesn't want to fight relegation. He might be up for meekly accepting relegation.
Probably explains the brief statement. Weird from Dyche too and comes across a bit cowardly.
If he was called Séan Dyy-chẽ no way he wouldnve been sacked!
Surprised by that.
That’s a mad one that, very much sounds like he wanted out
Mourinho at Everton would be funny just for him trying to spark up a media campaign against Liverpool
Didn't he say he wouldn't go to a club in a relegation battle?
He did but at the same time I can see him getting glassy eyed and wanting to take us into the new stadium in memory of Bill
Fighting relegation with Ipswich or Southampton is one thing. Everton have a new stadium coming and new ownership. He’d stomach a short term relegation fight and be tempted by the medium term prospects.
Can someone photoshop Dyche's face on Che Guevara?
Everton could proudly crow about having the best stadium in the Championship.
It would be their biggest achievement in years.
I guess he is saying that with the team available they are not likely to be able to do much better than fight relegation. I would imagine they could play better football but it may not translate into points as undoubtedly Southampton played a better brand of football but are as good as relegated already. He is probably being a realist in accepting that they are probably just looking to survive this season and no matter what he does he is not their choice and would be replaced in the summer, leaving now lets him spin the narrative and he also has a better shot of landing another job at a club desperate to survive whereas in the summer when clubs have time to consider their choices nobody is going to be signing up for his brand of non football.
It just comes across as weak to me and defeatist. I understand being up against it but he's one of the few (maybe the only) manager in the league that speaks like this. You're right though that it allows him to spin the narrative more.
Meek acceptance would be very much on brand for Moysey.
Always makes me laugh when people say things like this. When the fans of both clubs he's managed (the two sets of fans who've had to watch his teams every week) think he's shite. Take that as a sign that they might know more than people who don't watch his teams.
I think Ole could do ok with that squad.
Chill out mate. Yes, I'm only going off the handful of games I watched of Bournemouth in 22/23 and Wolves in 23/24 but they played decent football most of the time I saw them on TV, and O'Neil was clearly an improvement on his predecessor. Considering the squads he had at his disposal, I thought he did a solid job at both clubs.
Interesting that you claim to have your finger on the pulse when it comes to the opinions of Bournemouth and Wolves fans. Who are these people who think he's shite? None of my mates support either team, and I haven't seen any Bournemouth or Wolves fans on the caf. Clearly you have your sources though.
He failed to save Cardiff from relegation in 13/14 so don't think Everton will risk it. Moyes saved West Ham that one year and do believe Everton will go for him because of that.
On Dyche sacking: thought Lopetegui taking charge of training while they already decided to sack him was already odd enough, then there's also Dyche who did that press conference for Peterborough game and now got sacked hours before the game
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I don't know what in my post made you think I needed to chill I found your post amusing, which may have been mean which I apologise for.
Bottom line is though is if you checked any fan channel/forum/social media for their fans reactions to his sackings most were heavily in favour. Even if outside fans don't watch a lot of a team, I think it's always good to ask why fans are so in favour of a sacking.
Say for example another club's fan came in here saying why the hell did we sack ETH. Saying he did a brilliant job because he won two trophies. He'd probably get laughed out the room and rightly so.
I think Bournemouth fans were more appreciative of the job he did but still generally felt it was the right move.
I am generally clued in with Bournemouth as I used to have family near there so I keep an eye on everything going on there.
I'll link a fan channel video about his sacking at the time, I think it's fairly balanced about his pros and cons while he was there.
Probably could've done with posting this in the Gary O'Neil thread instead of clogging up this one
He failed to save Cardiff from relegation in 13/14 so don't think Everton will risk it. Moyes saved West Ham that one year and do believe Everton will go for him because of that.
On Dyche sacking: thought Lopetegui taking charge of training while they already decided to sack him was already odd enough, then there's also Dyche who did that press conference for Peterborough game and now got sacked hours before the game
Tbf, Cardiff were an absolute circus, and he's had a lot more experience since then. I think he could work well with the players they have, and make them a solid enough outfit.
Both sackings should have happened ages ago. Weird how they played out.
In fairness we got rid of one of ours a couple of hours after winning the FA Cup.
People having a laugh with Mourinho seeing how it ended with them at Roma.
I was going to say Moyes the sequel but he said he didn't want to manage another relegation battle. However back living in the NW, Everton clearly means so much to him and new stadium months away and he's kept West Ham up when he inherited similar scenarios.
Paulo Fonseca must also have a decent shout. Available and also managed Roma under this ownership.
I think it's a good move from Everton. If they appoint someone next week they have some winnable home games and also a few weeks to get 3-4 transfers done so better than leaving it until the last week of January and then you can't do much with a poor squad.
The first two are surely a bit too ambitious for the present situation. Allegri coming to England to manage in a relegation battle after years of CL with Juventus?!
I could understand those two being targeted in a few years time if you stay up and then settle into the new ground and then quality for Europe.
I get you it's just that I'm not sure they'd risk it, though Lampard initially kept them up so perhaps Ole could as well.
Moyes is definitely a safer pair of hands tbf.
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Yeah, be good to have someone point out in no uncertain terms the medias love in within the Dippers.
Nothing wrong with giving up