Scott McTominay | Napoli

If Napoli played us they’d beat us comfortably and McTominay would dominate against any of our midfielders physically.
Well thats not a great feat these days, they would probably beat us without McTominay even or if he played for us or if we cloned him and one would play for each team.
It's tragic when you think that Ragnick bemoaned the lack of physicality in the team and Amorim alluded to this recently. Not dirty players but players able to play with the intensity of the Premier League and we let McTominay leave. Appreciate the club may need to have done it for PSR but still.
The lack of physicality was probably meant in terms of intensity and thats definitely not something McTominay could ever be attributed with.
 
He is in no way similar to Maradona… He is quite good at what he does for Conte but Conte’s football really suck*s. They won the league 2 years ago with the same midifled (Zielinski instead of McT) and they were the best attacking side of serie A. Creating chance after chances and demolishing the top teams. They scored 5 vs Juventus and 4 vs Liverpool…

This year they are gonna win it mostly thanks to their defensive quality. They are scoring barely 1,5 goal/game. And they may end up outside the top 5 scoring sides.
Yeah I wasn’t really being serious
 
It’s interesting to me that not one fecker is suggesting we were wrong to let Lukaku go. Do his performances for Napoli not count?
Lukaku really never should have come back to Chelsea when did. The Italian league seems tailor made for him and as Tuchel once said he’s back with his daddy and loving life
 
McTominay’s role/position in the side was replaced by Zirkzee, in this squad. If Scott was still here he’d be occupying similar areas on the football field offering similar sorts of strengths — McTominay the better box crasher/aerial presence, and Zirkzee the better player in the buildup. Funny to say when you consider what their original respective positions are/were.
 
I don't think this is about Italian vs English league. He's a very specific player and with an ability level that means it would come down to tactics most of the time regarding him being useful enough to be a regular starter/key player no matter where he goes in a top league.
 
Keep it up Diego McTominay.. We signed a attacking player from Seria A to replace him who can't score goals.
 
You are hesitant to get dragged into a Mount vs McT debate but you use someone who has shown absolutely nothing in our shirt to slate McT?

And when was the last time Mount wasn’t injured? 3 years ago? Why you compare him to someone who actually won us games just last year.

And again, I understand McT’s limitations, you seem to ignore that on every reply.

You're the same Kostov who absolutely batters Bruno right? Primarily for giving the ball away.

Yet when it's McTominay you don't give a "rat's ass" about passing. All you care about is goals. Which Bruno is also better at.

Nobody is slating Scott, I like the guy.
 
McTom and Antony should surely prove to our fans that our players aren't anywhere close to as shit as we like to pretend. Right now they've had to play for a manager who purposely left a huge gaping hole in his midfield, and now a manager who chooses to play 5 defenders and at least one defensive midfielder ever game, almost giving up on creation from our wide.

McTom and Antony, now play for a managers that, and this is key, play to their strengths.

Absolutely delighted for Scott, desperately hope they bring this home now.
 
Amazing paragraph from Corriere dello Sport (Google Translated)
https://www.corrieredellosport.it/n...rilete_cosmico_napoli_padrone_del_suo_destino

" What planet did you come from? " Maradona won't get angry from up there if we quote the question that the famous commentator Victor Hugo Morales asked the world when he saw him score the goal of the century at the World Cup in Mexico.
Because whoever is watching Scott McTominay play is probably asking himself the same question. What planet did he come from?
The man who is deciding the title fight comes from Scotland, but he looks like a Martian. Five goals in the last three games, eleven in the league, a devastating impact in Serie A. The risk of becoming the best player of the tournament, a cosmic barrel.
Conte had stung his pride three weeks ago, had asked him for the goals to still believe in the dream. The answer was that of a champion , an absolute champion.
 
You're the same Kostov who absolutely batters Bruno right? Primarily for giving the ball away.

Yet when it's McTominay you don't give a "rat's ass" about passing. All you care about is goals. Which Bruno is also better at.

Nobody is slating Scott, I like the guy.
Not sure where you get that "batters" Bruno? :lol:

I appreciate Bruno and what he is to this team, I don't think I am that critical of him, maybe you are mistaking me with someone else. I often question his attitude and leadership abilities that is true, but also realize that he is by far our best and most reliable attacking outlet.

But you surely have to admit that control of a game and Bruno Fernandes in the middle of that team don't go together right? Not in the way we are trying to set up currently and in the past years.

Yesterday the commentator mentioned that we are either the team with the most first goal conceded or only Leicester is worse in the league, which is shocking don't you think?
 
McTom and Antony should surely prove to our fans that our players aren't anywhere close to as shit as we like to pretend. Right now they've had to play for a manager who purposely left a huge gaping hole in his midfield, and now a manager who chooses to play 5 defenders and at least one defensive midfielder ever game, almost giving up on creation from our wide.

McTom and Antony, now play for a managers that, and this is key, play to their strengths.

Absolutely delighted for Scott, desperately hope they bring this home now.

What's McTominay doing this season that he didn't do last season?
 
Not sure where you get that "batters" Bruno? :lol:

I appreciate Bruno and what he is to this team, I don't think I am that critical of him, maybe you are mistaking me with someone else. I often question his attitude and leadership abilities that is true, but also realize that he is by far our best and most reliable attacking outlet.

But you surely have to admit that control of a game and Bruno Fernandes in the middle of that team don't go together right? Not in the way we are trying to set up currently and in the past years.

Yesterday the commentator mentioned that we are either the team with the most first goal conceded or only Leicester is worse in the league, which is shocking don't you think?

See below comments on Bruno:

It's what sets him apart from true world class players, his bottom level that is. He is absolutely dreadful when he is not on song. You will never see KDB have that kind of game he just had against Twente.

I hate seeing him wearing the armband. Best moment was him getting subbed, he was our weakest midfielder.

We would have been just as bad if he stayed on the pitch. Lost everything he touched up till the red card.

Worst captain of a big club I have ever seen. Zero personality, aura or self esteem. And he was dogshit in everything else today.

Apart from the goal, he was garbage. Can't take a corner to save his life, Phil Jones would take a better one than captain Bruno at this rate.

He was crap, lost so many stupid balls. Infuriating.

I mean the difference between how you talk about Bruno and how you talk about McTominay. Baffling.

You don’t want Bruno in the middle of the pitch because that doesn't allow us control. But you do want McTominay there.

Take a step back and think that through.
 
He's on fire at the moment I really do hope he wins Serie A he deserves it.

Edit: He's probaby Serie A player of the season.
 
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Given that Conte seems to specialise in getting the best out of players who struggled at United, couldn't we have saved a lot of hassle and money and just got him to manage us instead?
 
Given that Conte seems to specialise in getting the best out of players who struggled at United, couldn't we have saved a lot of hassle and money and just got him to manage us instead?
Wouldn't work. They have to suffer playing for us first before Conte can channel the PTSD.
 
Starting every week?

I think the point you missed is he was scoring last season for us anyway so no major difference. I'm fairly sure he'd be scoring for fun this season under Amorim the way we set up, he'd probably be our striker.

All that doesn't get away from the fact that he was too limited for us. He was never going to play CM due to his limitations and he wasn't going to replace Bruno.

Unfortunate timing but he made the wise decision to move for more regular minutes. It's not a slight on the club it's just a standard career move.
 
I think the point you missed is he was scoring last season for us anyway so no major difference. I'm fairly sure he'd be scoring for fun this season under Amorim the way we set up, he'd probably be our striker.

All that doesn't get away from the fact that he was too limited for us. He was never going to play CM due to his limitations and he wasn't going to replace Bruno.

Unfortunate timing but he made the wise decision to move for more regular minutes. It's not a slight on the club it's just a standard career move.

Of course we made the right decision, the point is, our players aren’t as shit as our fans love to make out.
 
It’s interesting to me that not one fecker is suggesting we were wrong to let Lukaku go. Do his performances for Napoli not count?
Lukaku's not doing so well actually. He's old. Think Napoli might try to upgrade on him if they can
 
Not sure you are listening.

I’m saying our fans shouldn’t pretend all our players are utter shite or Championship levelZ

But you chosen two players who've left to prove your point. Stating their current clubs are playing to their strengths.

The insinuation is how they're performing now they've left is proving something to United fans. As if it was United holding them back.

My question is how is McTominay this season proving anything to United fans when he's pretty much just reproducing what he did for us last season. As I say prob less goals per min this season If anything.

If anybody thinks McTominay wasn't good enough last season, this seasons form shouldn't be changing their minds.
 
If anybody thinks McTominay wasn't good enough last season, this seasons form shouldn't be changing their minds.

That really wasn’t the point though, United fans have constantly called the likes of McTom and Antony championship level players, the point is, they aren’t as they are showing and maybe our fans shouldn’t pretend try to remember this?
 
That really wasn’t the point though, United fans have constantly called the likes of McTom and Antony championship level players, the point is, they aren’t as they are showing and maybe our fans shouldn’t pretend try to remember this?

It’s obvious they aren’t championship players, just not very well suited to the tempo of the Premier League. Antony doesn’t have the physicality to cope and McTominay isn’t technical enough on the ball to compensate for his general play, while he’s more than physical enough
 
It’s obvious they aren’t championship players, just not very well suited to the tempo of the Premier League. Antony doesn’t have the physicality to cope and McTominay isn’t technical enough on the ball to compensate for his general play, while he’s more than physical enough

Its weird isn't it. People can watch a player for years being decent enough but not amazing and then magically watch them do much better in a different league and instead of thinking "hmm, perhaps that different league is easier" they think that magically the player has transformed overnight. Antony is having a great time in La Liga. You can watch him in the highlights and he has acres of space compared to the PL, the players are slower and less physical as well. It suits him. Thats great. Thats where he should be playing to make the most of his talent. Same with McTominay. Italy suits him.

I don't see why we need to always try and use these things as sticks to beat our own team with. I'm happy McTominay is having a good time in Italy. Guy was a model professional for us and seems like a great guy. I wish him all the success and trophies he can get his hands on over there. Doesn't mean I think he should still be at United.

I feel similar of Antony. I think he should be playing in a league that suits him. No hard feelings, hes just not suited to the PL.
 
Its weird isn't it. People can watch a player for years being decent enough but not amazing and then magically watch them do much better in a different league and instead of thinking "hmm, perhaps that different league is easier" they think that magically the player has transformed overnight. Antony is having a great time in La Liga. You can watch him in the highlights and he has acres of space compared to the PL, the players are slower and less physical as well. It suits him. Thats great. Thats where he should be playing to make the most of his talent. Same with McTominay. Italy suits him.

I don't see why we need to always try and use these things as sticks to beat our own team with. I'm happy McTominay is having a good time in Italy. Guy was a model professional for us and seems like a great guy. I wish him all the success and trophies he can get his hands on over there. Doesn't mean I think he should still be at United.

I feel similar of Antony. I think he should be playing in a league that suits him. No hard feelings, hes just not suited to the PL.
McTominay is not exactly doing much better than last season
 
I don't think this is about Italian vs English league. He's a very specific player and with an ability level that means it would come down to tactics most of the time regarding him being useful enough to be a regular starter/key player no matter where he goes in a top league.
Agreed to a point. I think Serie A shows big physical players get more joy (just look at some of young Hojlunds Atalanta goals or guys like Tammy or Lukaku). Running/graft really is McT’s strength - he’ll outrun his midfielder marker to drive onto a shot/header and tall athletic players who are good in the air but start their runs in midfield will bother any CB in any league.
 
No matter how sanguine I try to be, its usually at least a little galling to watch a player leave the club and thrive. But I'm geuninely chuffed to see Scott doing this well. He was already popular in Naples, but 5 goals in the last 3 games to turn the league on its head and leave them on the cusp of winning it is proper fairy tale stuff.