I like him but not a good start tbh.
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This. Was lost at sea.. many times he'll go in for a tackle but benefica players just pass him by. But he grew into the game but i saw too much hesitation to go in for a tackle or to receive the ball. But he'll have a better 2nd as he is growing into the game
Good I thought. Just needs to show more confidence on the ball
Some of the comments in this thread have been absurdly premature and disrespectful.
Not a Verratti... So more of a Nigel Reo-Coker?
Not sure where all the praise is coming from. Cowardly in possession and suspect off the ball, although he got a bit better near the end. Was he nutmegged twice in that half?
This is a weird comment considering there's a load of negative comments throughout this thread. They obviously don't suit your agenda though.
Also calling Fletcher a nothing player is hilariously absurd.
How many of our academy players at young age started proper game in central midfield for us in last ten years or so? I reckon just few of them.
Fletcher took a battering on here in his first few years.
Did absolutely nothing for the first 30 mins and at one point had acres of space to drive into but played sideways to Matic who was stuck on the sideline surrounded by two Benfica players. Decent ending to the half though. Bang average youth player, that's all he is. Players in years gone by will be kicking themselves wishing they were a couple years younger.
Every inch of space in your head is filled up with the things that you read. I guess you've got everything now
Can't fill my head with that comment, too hard to even understand.
Would you try to dumb it down for me?
I was gonna say! Fletch was roasted horribly. All that Fergie's son bullocks. Kid couldn't do anything right for some people up until about 2009.
As for McTominay, he started slowly but has gradually found himself in this game. Towards the end of the half he started to truly contest in midfield, which helped massively in the build up to our goal.
All things considered he's doing well. Mou could help him out by going three in midfield though. Our midfield two are having to do a lot of work against Benfica's midfield three. Not the first time our two has been outnumbered against an opponent's three. Don't know why Mou wants to keep playing 4231 when all our #10s are off form.
Not a good half from him. Benfica going past him with ease and he started to hide and not look for the ball.
Still its young days for him. He does look terrific technically.
Also, did someone just call Fletcher a nothing player?
Still its young days for him. He does look terrific technically.
Also, did someone just call Fletcher a nothing player?
Looks a little lost at times in terms of his positioning and too safe in possession. At least he’s involved in the game though unlike Mata and Lingard.
He intercepted the ball twice at the end of the half so some people think he did well. One interception was thanks to a dopey Benfica player kicking it into him.
Every youth player we've had in the last twenty years has been called a "nothing player" or something similar on here by someone. It's a bizarre mentality.Not a good half from him. Benfica going past him with ease and he started to hide and not look for the ball.
Still its young days for him. He does look terrific technically.
Also, did someone just call Fletcher a nothing player?
This. No one mentioned the two times he got nutmegged. If that was Lindelof tho.
Fletcher was nothing special when Fergie handed him his debut
Nothing special is not a nothing player. Most youngsters don't burst out and start amazing.
I know this, but saying 'nothing player' is not an insult. Nothing player to me equals 'excels at nothing'. I don't even know what McTominay's key attributes are. He keeps it simple they say. Sounds like 03-05 Fletcher to me
Have you actually read the thread?
I've read some of it. Im talking about the comments today relating to his current performance
Because he's been good. He's done well on his first start in the Champions League. He's not lighting the game on fire but he's doing well in midfield. That doesn't mean he can do no wrong.
Think he’s been good personally. He’s expected to keep things simple and keep the ball moving and that’s what he’s done. Few interceptions and tackles as well as what seems to be a mature footballing brain not over complicating things.
Think he's done ok, looks steady.
If he ends up as good as Fletcher i think we'll all be delighted.
If he ends up as good as Fletcher i think we'll all be delighted.
Well, the majority of the thread is mostly people saying he's mediocre at best. Then some think he's having a good game and praise him for it and you come up with "he can do no wrong for some people". Surely you could see how that's a completely baseless conclusion, all things considered?
Look, he ended the half well with two interceptions but that won't won't cloud my judgement or overall assessment. Benfica went past him with ease for the most part and he looked positionally unaware. It was the very definition of bang average.
Cool. Good for you. I think he's doing well.
Fair enough, the context of the entire thread
I'll be surprised if he makes it here but as long as Mourinho is in charge he'll have a fair crack at it
Yeah I'll be surprised too. He's playing in a very tough position to push through at a top club. I hope he does though, I hope he can grow and be a great player. As it is, he's a nice option to have as a backup in my mind.
How many times has he been nutmegged now?
The bold part is what people see, or at least what I agree with.
But some see him performing as expected and think that's him being a positive in our team, others see him performing ok but not to the extent of being a positive, but are happy with him not bein a negative in the team.
People expressing those things differently creates arguments. That and there will always be the few odd people out going full on praise for cheap, or those who slags someone off for not having a top class performance.
I'm in the camp that thinks he's doing ok, no reason to praise bar saying he's done ok/well enough or slag him off for not doing more.
I do find it weird when people use a word like solid for his performance. Solid for me is having a positive effect on our game, like Martial. He's been solid today with creating chances and generally being our main/only attacking threat, not a great performance by him either, but solid.
Or in "redcafe ranking terms", McTominay has been a 6 while Martial has been a 7.
And before people think I see 6 as bad, 6 is the baseline of acceptable in my eyes, and is what we at best can expect for a young player without much experience or seemingly without special abilities that make him stand out.
Solid to me means doing what is expected without adding more.
Which is fair, as long as we know we see things differently.
The guy I commented on earlier in this thread went on with some "you read too much" comment that was impossible to understand instead of just explaining what he put in the word solid. There was Verratti or solid, which seemed like just a post to get something out there.
I think there's a bit of a problem of the caf and Internet as a whole that if you say a positive or negative thing it's read as 100% black or white. When I say I think he's done well I'm not saying he hasn't made any mistakes or he's been a 10/10. Just that he's done well and I think for such an inexperienced player it's worth mentioning that he doesn't look out of place out there.Which is fair, as long as we know we see things differently.
The guy I commented on earlier in this thread went on with some "you read too much" comment that was impossible to understand instead of just explaining what he put in the word solid. There was Verratti or solid, which seemed like just a post to get something out there.
Yeah. Saying he doesn't look out of place and seem to handle the mental aspect of playing at the Old Trafford and can hopefully build on that is absolutely fair, and note out that despite not being great he had a few good involvements is fine. I think that's the kind of praise he absolutely does deserve. If he can become a Fletcher-like (before he had his period of top class play) player that brings you a good game every game he'll do great for us as a academy product.
Guess on my end I'm just a bit jaded over the talents we've overhyped and seen fail over the last 5-10 years, so I try to bring it down a notch when i feel it's necessary.
Played well.
Whether making it at United or not, does this lad have a top flight career ahead of him?
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