Think Jack showed tonight that he is more the kind of player who can produce something out of nothing more than Jadon
Sancho, Grealish, Rice or Calvert-Lewin?
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Is Jadon good at pressing, harrying, and getting in and amongst it? Cavani aside, too often our forwards go missing and get lost between the opposition's defence and midfield. With Grealish, you know you are getting a player that will fight and have enough quality to still make things happen, even in games against extremely compact backlines. Grealish is an absolute no-brainer for me.
This is farfetched but would anyone consider a swap of Sancho and Martial + 30m? assuming Martial is worth 60m... that would allow us to get Grealish in if required?
Grealish (LW, AM, CM, RW), Rashford (LW, ST, RW), Sancho (RW, LW), Cavani (ST), Diallo (RW, LW), Greenwood (RW, ST), James (LW, RW) wouldn't be a bad attack and obviously there's Bruno (AM, CM).
We need to focus on recruiting players who have a hunger for success. Rashford, Bruno and Cavani have proven that.
Grealish (LW, AM, CM, RW), Rashford (LW, ST, RW), Sancho (RW, LW), Cavani (ST), Diallo (RW, LW), Greenwood (RW, ST), James (LW, RW) wouldn't be a bad attack and obviously there's Bruno (AM, CM).
We need to focus on recruiting players who have a hunger for success. Rashford, Bruno and Cavani have proven that.
Personally I would be happy if we could get either Jack or Jadon this summer but still think only way it happens is if Pogba does still decide to leave the club. Mind you if we had the money put aside for them last window then surely we still have it to sign them now. There is more of an x-factor feel about Grealish but as we know he hasn't played on the RW in seven years so the club may doubt whether he can and look elsewhere. I have to say that can't see anyone in europe being willing to pay £60m for Tony right now and quite frankly I wouldn't blame them either.
I agree.... Instead of getting 60m for Martial, perhaps using him in a player and cash exchange for Sancho? Martial would be moving to a team that competes in the CL every year. Seems like a win-win situation. I think Martial could better himself in the Bundesliga. Grealish and Bruno in the same team would help us break down teams.
Martial plus €60m maybe.
Certainly a suggestion but get the impression that Dortmund would not be in the least bit interested in signing Jadon, much as I would love to think we could afford him & Grealish there are other positions than need addressing such as CB, CDM & maybe even a top level younger striker so we don't have to rely on Eddy all the time.
RW is our issue for 6 or 7 years now. We should do everything to get a better balanced style of play. So I would say Sancho right now.
Second issue is defensive midfield, or someone with more quality than Mc To and Fred, and Rice is not the option for me (Zakaria would be cheaper)
Second issue is defensive midfield, or someone with more quality than Mc To and Fred, and Rice is not the option for me (Zakaria would be cheaper)
Of those four I'd have a hard time to choose between Grealish and Sancho, probably would go for Sancho because we lack an out and out RW
I've not yet given up on Ed pulling off the Grealish transfer before the window ends.
Faith.
Faith.
Sancho on a smaller fee with last summer's remaining budget and Grealish with this summer's budget aided by player sales (namely Pogba and one of the keeper really).
Yeah unfortunately I can see Pogba still leaving but I also think DVB is the replacement for Pogba
Actually think that all 4 players listed in the title would hugely improve the team
grealish - unpredictable but consistent performances. Always seems to choose the right option. Love watching him play. He’d replace Pogba for me
sancho - would slot in as RWF for now. How long he could stay there would be a question because we now have a highly rated Diallo coming through. We could perhaps gamble on him and save the money it would take to get sancho
rice - I love McT and Fred. But Rice is going to be a superb player who could also slot into CB when the pressure is on. His passing is underrated, his job would be to get the ball and quickly move it on to more creative players. Also a natural leader.
DCL - best young target man in England. If we can’t get Haaland I think this chap could score the goals and lead the line superbly. Good on the ground and in the air. He’d replace Martial who has poor consistency
grealish - unpredictable but consistent performances. Always seems to choose the right option. Love watching him play. He’d replace Pogba for me
sancho - would slot in as RWF for now. How long he could stay there would be a question because we now have a highly rated Diallo coming through. We could perhaps gamble on him and save the money it would take to get sancho
rice - I love McT and Fred. But Rice is going to be a superb player who could also slot into CB when the pressure is on. His passing is underrated, his job would be to get the ball and quickly move it on to more creative players. Also a natural leader.
DCL - best young target man in England. If we can’t get Haaland I think this chap could score the goals and lead the line superbly. Good on the ground and in the air. He’d replace Martial who has poor consistency
Very good analysis of the four players
Fantasy football because stuff never works out like this, but if we could move on Pogba and martial and replace them with grealish and DCL we’d really be talking
It depends the fees though. I‘m 100% sure 3 of them together would turn us into real title contender.
DCL is carbon copy Inzaghi. Both have world class movement, impressive hunger/determination, fox in the box and scoring goals the same way. DCL‘s hold up play is probably like Lukaku but his work rate is like Cavani, very athletic, he always go towards the ball when in the box unlike Lukaku who prefers to wait the ball comes to him in the box. Cavani is much more technical player but if you don’t mind Inzaghi, DCL is the man. A scrappy service can turn into good service with this guy.
In my opinion, Matic should be moved on. Rice will be good replacement. I don’t think we will have lot of competition since the likes of City & Liverpool already have holding midfielder while Chelsea‘s board seem to be against the idea to bring him back. Him and Fred/McT in double pivot or him behind of VDB & Bruno is basically improvement in our midfield. The only thing that prevent us to go for him is the price.
Sancho/Grealish. One of them is basically Pogba’s replacement in term of replacing the creativity in the team. I have a feeling Sancho will be cheaper than Grealish in the summer.
DCL is carbon copy Inzaghi. Both have world class movement, impressive hunger/determination, fox in the box and scoring goals the same way. DCL‘s hold up play is probably like Lukaku but his work rate is like Cavani, very athletic, he always go towards the ball when in the box unlike Lukaku who prefers to wait the ball comes to him in the box. Cavani is much more technical player but if you don’t mind Inzaghi, DCL is the man. A scrappy service can turn into good service with this guy.
In my opinion, Matic should be moved on. Rice will be good replacement. I don’t think we will have lot of competition since the likes of City & Liverpool already have holding midfielder while Chelsea‘s board seem to be against the idea to bring him back. Him and Fred/McT in double pivot or him behind of VDB & Bruno is basically improvement in our midfield. The only thing that prevent us to go for him is the price.
Sancho/Grealish. One of them is basically Pogba’s replacement in term of replacing the creativity in the team. I have a feeling Sancho will be cheaper than Grealish in the summer.
Issue is their clubs would probably expect 100M each.
Sancho, Grealish, Rice or Calvert-Lewin?
All of them.
All of them.
Would be possible if we were City/Chelsea and there was no COVID affected budget
In order of preference:
Grealish
Rice
Sancho
Grealish
Rice
Sancho
Massive fan of Grealish but who do we play on RW as certainly not signing both of them
Grealish.
Doubts about Sancho now. Rice is solid but wouldn’t transform us in midfield. DCL wouldn’t be enough of an upgrade at CF to justify the fee.
Rashford will have to adapt somehere else at make room on the left for Grealish, who’s a substantially more effective footballer.
Doubts about Sancho now. Rice is solid but wouldn’t transform us in midfield. DCL wouldn’t be enough of an upgrade at CF to justify the fee.
Rashford will have to adapt somehere else at make room on the left for Grealish, who’s a substantially more effective footballer.
Yeah there is no doubt in my mind that Jack is a better technical footballer than Marcus & Tony, however much as I want Amad to get an opportunity on the RW I can't help feeling that we still need to sign a starter there to take pressure off
Sick of mental midgets with questionable work-rate in our forward line - so Sancho is fully off the table.
Grealish. By an absolute million miles. He has on-field attitude and arrogance in buckets... and combines it with supreme technical ability, flair and creativity. He also never coasts through games. If we get the best out of him on the left, then he plays on the left.
Grealish. By an absolute million miles. He has on-field attitude and arrogance in buckets... and combines it with supreme technical ability, flair and creativity. He also never coasts through games. If we get the best out of him on the left, then he plays on the left.
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Yeah this decision should not be affected by it being Marcus's best position which seems to be Ole's thinking, surely even he can see that Jack has more to his game and maybe having proper competition will make Rashford up his performance levels again.
Serious question let’s say Pogba does go and some how this summer we can bring in all the mentioned players except for Lewin. So our team looks like this.
DDG
Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Rice Fred
Sancho Bruno Grealish
????
Who honestly do we play as striker because personally I don’t think Rashford is good enough for that role so where does he fit in or does he fight with Grealish for the left and we bring in a striker that can do the job?Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Rice Fred
Sancho Bruno Grealish
????
With those 3 feeding the striker it has to be someone who can take those chances - has to be Haaland
Cavani
Maybe Jack can play on the RW too looking at that goal he just set up for Watkins
Still Grealish for me. I’d like him at 8. We need more technique in CM. Would need a disciplined 6 and, no, we don’t really have that.
I wasn’t too impressed with Rice the other night. Maybe it’s time to unlock the Bellingham thread. (Dortmund reportedly ready to sell him).
I wasn’t too impressed with Rice the other night. Maybe it’s time to unlock the Bellingham thread. (Dortmund reportedly ready to sell him).
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Do you think Jack is capable of playing in that no 8 role though and who would you like sign at no 6 then
Yes I do, very much. Would love to have someone with Grealish’s ability to receive, hold, carry and pass the ball, right in the middle of the pitch. This is hyperbole but in my head he becomes a cross between Iniesta and Xavi.
Assuming Bruno plays as ACM/ no10, the 6 would have to be someone with plenty of energy and discipline. Not sure if Kante could still do it but a similar type might work.
I mentioned Bellingham because I read a “scout” report of him at Dortmund and, although I haven’t seen him play, he sounds a good fit at 6 but, of course, he is too inexperienced. A buy and loan back deal might appeal. Fred and McT could muddle through for a year.
I doubt it happens in the real world but if we buy Grealish I want him on the ball as much as possible.
I will take them all here, no problem.
Calvert-Lewin is interesting as a replacement for Cavani. His technical ability has surprised me. Martial obviously isn't the answer and I don't think we can secure Haaland at United. Greenwood is making good progress, but I'm not sure he's going to be a centre-forward to lead the line.
Calvert-Lewin is interesting as a replacement for Cavani. His technical ability has surprised me. Martial obviously isn't the answer and I don't think we can secure Haaland at United. Greenwood is making good progress, but I'm not sure he's going to be a centre-forward to lead the line.
Personally I think Harland could become the best striker in the world, possibly even the best player, He’s fantastic. I believe in Greenwood and think he’ll also reach the top but he’s not quite Haaland level, he might get there in a few years but he’s still young. My concern would be his agent. I don’t want another Pogba in our squad. Grealish is also great but I don’t see room for him and Bruno. Sancho certainly has potential, however I do think it’s a class centre back we need.
As hilariously bad as the Sancho thing went last summer, it may have actually worked out in Utds favour. Unless, of course, another club swoops in. Still plenty of time to feck it up!
Going into next season Sancho is the only one on that list that makes any sense.
Grealish is a fantastic player but people are just wanting him because he's good rather than thinking through if he's a good fit. He isn't one for the 2 in a 4231 and he won't take Rashfords spot.
Grealish is a fantastic player but people are just wanting him because he's good rather than thinking through if he's a good fit. He isn't one for the 2 in a 4231 and he won't take Rashfords spot.
Sancho will have a great career in the premier league...at Chelsea.
I rate Sancho and Grealish quite equal now.
In my view the big difference is that Grealish probably has reached his potential. I don’t see him getting much better, while for Sancho the sky is the limit; Sancho has much more upside.
At the same time Grealish and Sancho are different players to a certain extent,and I think Sancho fits much better into our system.
I also think Sancho as a person fits United better (group dynamic and United culture) than Grealish as a person.
Sancho is definitely the player to choose, especially if the price is pretty much the same.
In my view the big difference is that Grealish probably has reached his potential. I don’t see him getting much better, while for Sancho the sky is the limit; Sancho has much more upside.
At the same time Grealish and Sancho are different players to a certain extent,and I think Sancho fits much better into our system.
I also think Sancho as a person fits United better (group dynamic and United culture) than Grealish as a person.
Sancho is definitely the player to choose, especially if the price is pretty much the same.
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