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FFP is more of an advantage than a hindrance.

They'll have the highest turnover in L2 and one of the highest in L1

Indeed, they are about to play multiple friendlies to sold out crowds in the states, it is like that cheat on Premier Manager 97 where you schedule away friendlies to Barcelona and Juventus and get about £5,000,000, they will see more from those two games than most League 2 sides will see all year from gates and prize money.
 
Indeed, they are about to play multiple friendlies to sold out crowds in the states, it is like that cheat on Premier Manager 97 where you schedule away friendlies to Barcelona and Juventus and get about £5,000,000, they will see more from those two games than most League 2 sides will see all year from gates and prize money.

Exactly. There's no real precedent for this. Salford might be similar but this is a different scale.

All their sponsorship contracts are up for renewal also. These were signed before the documentary aired.

They'll be able to present the relevant data to potential sponsors and negotiate huge fees.

They could wait til after the friendlies and season 2 airs to drive up prices.
 
McElhenny mentioned on his podcast recently that he's been to Wrexham 8 times this year. The jetlag must be murder.

Fit it in while writing and filming an entire season of TV, as well.

You’re not going to get Jet lag travelling first class between LA and Wales in all honesty.
 
Does travelling first class mean that you don’t travel through different time zones? Didn’t know that.

Grew up in Hawaii and flew back and forth to the mainland US. If you sleep through the flight you don't really feel the lag. Not sleeping on a really long flight can mess up your body for a couple days. At least that was my experience. I am flying from Georgia US to Hawaii in two weeks. I will make sure to medicate before the California to Hawaii leg.
 
Grew up in Hawaii and flew back and forth to the mainland US. If you sleep through the flight you don't really feel the lag. Not sleeping on a really long flight can mess up your body for a couple days. At least that was my experience. I am flying from Georgia US to Hawaii in two weeks. I will make sure to medicate before the California to Hawaii leg.
I don’t know exactly what the time difference is between Hawaii and mainland US, but LA to Wrexham is eight hours. Falling asleep at 3pm (10pm UK time) might be a tough ask even for a rich person. Flying east is always tougher since flying west means you just have to stay up a little bit longer and then you’re in sync.
 
Does travelling first class mean that you don’t travel through different time zones? Didn’t know that.
Traveling first or business class makes the travel less painless, but fundamentally your body is gonna take the hit at some point with the time difference (+ the fact you're in a pressurized environment, dryer, etc. for 12hrs or whatever). You may be able to medicate, melatonin might help, etc, but yes it takes its toll.
 
Does travelling first class mean that you don’t travel through different time zones? Didn’t know that.

Be as facetious as you like, Jet Lag on a flight that long with not much of a time difference, really isn’t a thing in economy. I’ve done it dozens of times. Complete non event. Piece of piss to manage. As a one off you might get tired, as a regular traveller it’s irrelevant.

Sleeping during a flight on a flat bed negates the whole thing.

It not like they’re travelling coach for 24 hours London to Auckland. You can’t really manage that as it’s a full inversion of day and night.
 
FFP is more of an advantage than a hindrance.

They'll have the highest turnover in L2 and one of the highest in L1
Wrexham have been losing money despite that turnover,

It's more the wage rules that will hinder them, especially if they don't increase their turnover by a fair margin.

Currently their wages are already on a league two level, possibly even league one, they would need to improve the playing staff to be competitive which will increase the wages paid out, along with increasing the wages of those already there should they be up for renewal.

FFP will only be an advantage as long as there's interest in Wrexham, a struggle of a season will inevitably see interest decline and thus sponsorship levels etc despite the owners at the helm,
 
Wrexham have been losing money despite that turnover,

It's more the wage rules that will hinder them, especially if they don't increase their turnover by a fair margin.

Currently their wages are already on a league two level, possibly even league one, they would need to improve the playing staff to be competitive which will increase the wages paid out, along with increasing the wages of those already there should they be up for renewal.

FFP will only be an advantage as long as there's interest in Wrexham, a struggle of a season will inevitably see interest decline and thus sponsorship levels etc despite the owners at the helm,
I'm sure there's a bit in Welcome to Wrexham where they explain that simply being in League 2 rather than the National League, they increase their turnover by £1m per season. Add to that the fact it's sold out every game and they're adding a new stand that increases capacity by 50%, and I think turnover will probably not be an issue.
 
I'm sure there's a bit in Welcome to Wrexham where they explain that simply being in League 2 rather than the National League, they increase their turnover by £1m per season. Add to that the fact it's sold out every game and they're adding a new stand that increases capacity by 50%, and I think turnover will probably not be an issue.
They will need to increase their turnover a fair bit,

Currently they are spending circa £4m on wages with a turnover of circa £6m, the wages will go up, as I am sure the players will be on a higher wage due to the promotion, also they will be buying better players on higher wages also.
They can only spend 55% of turnover on wages I think before falling foul of FFP.

Couple that with the unsustainability of running at a loss, which they are currently doing and it's not as rosy as some night like to think for Wrexham.
 
Indeed, they are about to play multiple friendlies to sold out crowds in the states, it is like that cheat on Premier Manager 97 where you schedule away friendlies to Barcelona and Juventus and get about £5,000,000, they will see more from those two games than most League 2 sides will see all year from gates and prize money.

Tickets for the Chelsea Wrexham game are $132 at the moment. They are going to make a fortune off of this USA tour.
 
Wrexham aren't pocketing all this money and still have expenses to pay off from their US Tour, which can easily be covered by their owners

Also, these guys aren't the ones who are the true brains behind running the club but massive credit to them for being extremely humble and trustworthy and listening from their main advisors - Peter Moore, Shaun Harvey, and Les Reed of Southampton during their run up to the PL. Having Les Reed in their corner is an ace in the hole and as long as Wrexham have their finances in order and can pay players more than normal in League Two, League One, etc....they have a lot of potential, plus the fun/cool factor.
 
Can’t find nor create a Non-League thread, so I’m just mention it here.

Notts County on the brink of elimination from the play-offs at home to 6th placed Boreham Wood, who also finished 35 points behind.

This ‘one team automatically gets promoted’ thing needs to change, they’ve been incredible yet will likely still be in Non-League next season.
 
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Can’t find nor create a Non-League thread, so I’m just mention it here.

Notts County on the brink of elimination from the play-offs at home to 6th placed Boreham Wood, who also finished 35 points behind.

This ‘one team automatically gets promoted’ thing needs to change, they’ve been incredible yet will likely still be in Non-League next season.

Then again the same argument could be made of a team doing superbly but finishing third in a league where two go up automatically.
 
Then again the same argument could be made of a team doing superbly but finishing third in a league where two go up automatically.

But 2 is standard on all divisions above, and Notts County had a record breaking season only to be topped by another record breaking team. It’s highly unfortunate.

The top 2 teams in that league absolutely run away with it and only one gets properly awarded.
 
But 2 is standard on all divisions above, and Notts County had a record breaking season only to be topped by another record breaking team. It’s highly unfortunate.

The top 2 teams in that league absolutely run away with it and only one gets properly awarded.

Yeah I agree regarding Notts County. Just making the point. In another seasons the second placed team in that league could be 25 points off the leaders. In that case it probably wouldn't be seen as unfair.
 
Good on Notts! I have a mate who is a County fan and as much as I like to take the piss, they thoroughly deserve to go up. They are a better side than Wrexham in my opinion. One game to go...
 
It's crazy that you could gain promotion by finishing 7th in the National League but not by finishing 2nd. I know there has to be a line drawn somewhere but I don't think a team who can't finish higher than that should go up a league.

If you're going to do one up automatically then do the playoff from 2nd to 5th or two up automatically and 3rd to 6th in the playoffs.
 
On the jet lag situation I did 24 hours on Singapore airlines business class (so not even first class) from Manchester to Sydney and was fresh as a daisy when I got off the plane. The same coming home too.

believe me sat in pure comfort being waited on hand and foot makes a huge difference.
 
They will need to increase their turnover a fair bit,

Currently they are spending circa £4m on wages with a turnover of circa £6m, the wages will go up, as I am sure the players will be on a higher wage due to the promotion, also they will be buying better players on higher wages also.
They can only spend 55% of turnover on wages I think before falling foul of FFP.

Couple that with the unsustainability of running at a loss, which they are currently doing and it's not as rosy as some night like to think for Wrexham.

FFP won't be an issue.
I think you might be underestimating the hype train generated by the documentary and their Hollywood A-list owners some?
For starters, new sponsorship deals to be made this summer will be worth several times more than what they were
worth in summer of 21.
Those commercial deals were worth £1.05m in the 21-22 accounts.
I would be surprised if that number doesn't multiply by a factor of 3 to 5, at least, for the coming season(s).

Ad to it higher kit sales (They've ordered 35k kits for next year if they haven't ordered even more by now), income from the summmer tour in the US and
a bit higher turnover at the gate, and some EFL money, they should be able to balance the book quite nicely.
Pretty sure their turnover will dwarf all others in League 2 next season.
 
Probably decent money in that deal, compared to the Victorian Plumbing etc. clubs in League One have.

 
Probably decent money in that deal, compared to the Victorian Plumbing etc. clubs in League One have.



3rd biggest airline in the world... i'd say its decent compared to Premier League clubs (in terms of brand size anyway - no idea how much they'll be paying)
 
Honestly if I'm a lower league standard player and this ownership comes to me with an offer, if it's not 25% less than what ever else others are offering me I'm probably taking it.

The marketing aspects alone are probably worth it.

Put in the type of networking they are gaining and the experience in front of a TV and now you are really starting to set yourself up for a career after retirement.

Those are some really nice perks that will pay off in the long run.

Who was Dan Mullin before he signed for them?

Now he's internationally known on a level at least equal to Pulisic.