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Great owners. Always at games, with the locals, they have gone the right way to endear themselves to a whole town. Brilliant to see.
 
I agree, I think they'll storm League 2 next year

I'm not 100% certain though.
I think they're very reliant on Paul Mullin and if he gets injured, they might struggle.

I think they'll add a few quality signings though and release lots of players.

I'm 95% certain they'll reach the playoffs though.

The bottom half of L2 would be poor quality.

L1 is a different kettle of fish. They'll need to replenish most of the squad so that'll take a few years.
They might get out of L1 in 3 years.

Their big advantage is high turnover so they can pay high salaries. Also they can attract players no other club at their level can.
 
Even BBC news channel is covering the Open Top Bus Parade :lol:. Hollywood really working its magic here, who even got promoted last season?

 
This is all a wonderful story for a neutral

Other than their own Hollywood documentary, is there a record of how the long-term home and away Wrexham fans feel about the Hollywood takeover?

While maybe they won't believe their luck, they might also not recognise their club any more and be irritated that there's suddenly a ridiculous demand for tickets. And that it doesn't feel like their local club any more. Not as close to the club any more. I would imagine that would be part of the magic of supporting a lower league team
 
This is all a wonderful story for a neutral

Other than their own Hollywood documentary, is there a record of how the long-term home and away Wrexham fans feel about the Hollywood takeover?

While maybe they won't believe their luck, they might also not recognise their club any more and be irritated that there's suddenly a ridiculous demand for tickets

Considering they were about to go bankrupt in 2011, sold their stadium etc., I'm sure even those fans appreciate this. The owners seem to respect the history of the club and understand what it means to the community. If they changed their kit colours, named the club Wrexham Red Dragons and fired all the long-standing staff, they wouldn't probably be happy but so far the owners have done all the right moves to keep the fans happy.

There's a lot of their old fans on the documentary and even in that video a couple posts back and they all seem to love it.
 
This is all a wonderful story for a neutral

Other than their own Hollywood documentary, is there a record of how the long-term home and away Wrexham fans feel about the Hollywood takeover?

While maybe they won't believe their luck, they might also not recognise their club any more and be irritated that there's suddenly a ridiculous demand for tickets. And that it doesn't feel like their local club any more. Not as close to the club any more. I would imagine that would be part of the magic of supporting a lower league team

I don’t think there’s any negative to find in this story, and no one should be looking for it.
 
I don’t think there’s any negative to find in this story, and no one should be looking for it.
I'm not "looking for negatives" - but if that's the way you see it then fine.

Fans are a diverse bunch, each has their own reason for supporting a club and there is no problem in me wondering what some of their long-term loyal fans think of it
 
I'm not "looking for negatives" - but if that's the way you see it then fine.

Fans are a diverse bunch, each has their own reason for supporting a club and there is no problem in me wondering what some of their long-term loyal fans think of it

I'd suggest that any long term fan of a club like that (and I am such a fan) who moans about success given the rubbish football and financial peril they've put up with for years is just being cross awkward.

In my experience following a lower league team you get some fans who moan no matter what. They're usually best avoided.
 
They're actors, nowhere near as wealthy as oil mafias. Don't know what kind of money are you expecting them to heavily invest in football. Pretty sure that a few millions loss for them would be a bummer, as for oil mafias loosing some millions is like going on a weekend to Las Vegas.
 
They're actors, nowhere near as wealthy as oil mafias. Don't know what kind of money are you expecting them to heavily invest in football. Pretty sure that a few millions loss for them would be a bummer, as for oil mafias loosing some millions is like going on a weekend to Las Vegas.

Considering Reynolds just sold Mint Mobile for $1.35 Billion I'd say he's not your average Hollywood actor.

The fact that losing a few millions affects them is probably good for Wrexham in the long term. They want to grow by keeping it sustainable.
 
Yeah, I agree. They've done well so far, but this with Bale stupid. They need young, hungry players, not washed up has-beens to collect a paycheck. Foster, as you said is different, he's always been very down to earth, get the job done type of guy. And he has interest in performing well for Wrexham because of his podcast project. Bale has coasted for the past 5 years or more.

I'd assume they wouldn't be offering him much, it would be a token gesture with the bulk of the appeal being what it would do for his post retirement profile.

Whatever the money, Bale would absolutely storm League 2. As in be the best player that's ever played in the league. He's only 33.
 
Yeah, I agree. They've done well so far, but this with Bale stupid. They need young, hungry players, not washed up has-beens to collect a paycheck. Foster, as you said is different, he's always been very down to earth, get the job done type of guy. And he has interest in performing well for Wrexham because of his podcast project. Bale has coasted for the past 5 years or more.

Giving Bale equity in the club in exchange for a season would see them demolish the league and get promoted.

Sell the fella on a dream of his % stake growing by X if they make it to the PL in a decade would be very appealing. Only because he’s Welsh of course.

I’d love to see him Fcuk around in the bottom tier for a year. Have him train and set standards every week, but only roll him out for 20 fixtures… makes enough sense.
 
Considering Reynolds just sold Mint Mobile for $1.35 Billion I'd say he's not your average Hollywood actor.

The fact that losing a few millions affects them is probably good for Wrexham in the long term. They want to grow by keeping it sustainable.

It wasn’t his company tbf. He had a stake and made oodles. But he’s not a Billionaire.
 
It wasn’t his company tbf. He had a stake and made oodles. But he’s not a Billionaire.
I think he's edging towards being a 'paper' billionaire, honestly. But obviously he doesn't have a liquid billion or near enough just splashing around to be invested in Wrexham (or anyone else).
 
Fair enough, he only made €280m from it. And no, not a billionaire but a very wealthy actor nonetheless.
guys like him and Rob don't come from money so while they have it and ventured into this ownership rule, guaranteed they will be very tight/frugal with how much they are willing to output
 
Reynolds is close to being a billionaire, his share in Aviator Gin was worth over $600 million too.

But he doesn't have premier league money. My guess is they think they can build build the financial side of it to remain self-sustaining as they climb the ladder. They have sponsorships of a leage one club or more already, plus about a million a year from the documentary to support them.

US tours and the kind of publicity they get means whatever leage they are in, they will be the most valuable team for sponsors.
 
guys like him and Rob don't come from money so while they have it and ventured into this ownership rule, guaranteed they will be very tight/frugal with how much they are willing to output

Never said any different.
 
I think people might be setting Wrexham's goals a little too high.

I'd say they aiming to build a team like Crystal Palace rather than Manchester City
 
Considering Reynolds just sold Mint Mobile for $1.35 Billion I'd say he's not your average Hollywood actor.

The fact that losing a few millions affects them is probably good for Wrexham in the long term. They want to grow by keeping it sustainable.
And his share in the gin brand
 
guys like him and Rob don't come from money so while they have it and ventured into this ownership rule, guaranteed they will be very tight/frugal with how much they are willing to output

Not sure of Reynolds background but Rob's Philly upbringing bodes well for Wrexham. From just purely the sporting standpoint, you're talking about the opposite of fair weather fandom. You know he won't just get bored of the club after a bad season or two. Hell, he might love it even more.

I think people might be setting Wrexham's goals a little too high.

I'd say they aiming to build a team like Crystal Palace rather than Manchester City

I think they should be proud of making it to the Championship if even that. Quite a tall order ahead and certainly will make me pay attention to the leagues below in a way I've never done before. I tried quite hard with Forest Green Rovers - love the eco mission - but it's been such a pain to keep up with them. Wrexham now have quite a few games streamed live on ESPN +.
 
Reynolds is close to being a billionaire, his share in Aviator Gin was worth over $600 million too.

But he doesn't have premier league money. My guess is they think they can build build the financial side of it to remain self-sustaining as they climb the ladder. They have sponsorships of a leage one club or more already, plus about a million a year from the documentary to support them.

US tours and the kind of publicity they get means whatever leage they are in, they will be the most valuable team for sponsors.

He got $67m from Aviator. The entire company went for $600.
 
Never said any different.

no...i was in complete agreement with you

Not sure of Reynolds background but Rob's Philly upbringing bodes well for Wrexham. From just purely the sporting standpoint, you're talking about the opposite of fair weather fandom. You know he won't just get bored of the club after a bad season or two. Hell, he might love it even more.

if you've ever been to philly...it's a rough/middle class town of people who love their sports teams so in that essence 100% b/c he'll get vested in them much like he is with the Eagles. Those are the types of owners that only want to see the club be successful and while i don't see him throwing money like mad, he will invest to ensure the town can be proud of the product on the pitch
 
I'm not "looking for negatives" - but if that's the way you see it then fine.

Fans are a diverse bunch, each has their own reason for supporting a club and there is no problem in me wondering what some of their long-term loyal fans think of it

There was obviously some dissenters in the purchase because they released the voting data in the doc I think it was like 1.4% against so it was a very small minority, I'd imagine due to how they've done those who didn't want the takeover would now be happy with it, as they are only national league and now league 2 I'd imagine still a bulk of tickets are being bought by the local casual fans and a few out of towners for the novelty, if they keep going up the leagues that might change of course but those with ST'S will be ring-fenced in terms of already having their seat reserved.
 
Keep hearing rumours that they want Alfie May off of us (Cheltenham) and if that’s the case Wrexham will be dead to me
 
so refreshing to see owners who genuinely care
 
It wasn’t his company tbf. He had a stake and made oodles. But he’s not a Billionaire.

Rob and Ryan’s combined wealth is plenty big enough to be considered “big hitters” owners wise in National League, L2 and, L1 and perhaps even lower end of Championship
 
Rob and Ryan’s combined wealth is plenty big enough to be considered “big hitters” owners wise in National League, L2 and, L1 and perhaps even lower end of Championship

There are definitely lots of clubs in the Championship whose owners or ownership groups aren't as wealthy as Reynolds and McElhenney, maybe around half of them? But of course there are also many billionaire owners in the Championship who are a lot more wealthy than them, it's just that most owners are not very interested in spending their own money on their teams.

Seeing as how high the Hollywood hype train has already raised Wrexham's profile even when playing in the National League, I would think if they ever do get to the Championship they'd be one of the more attractive clubs in the eyes of potential sponsors etc. so chances are they wouldn't even need heavy owner spending to be competitive as long as the sporting side of the club was well run.
 
It isn’t their personal worth - it’s the sponsorship deals they are bringing in and the TV Show. They can only spend a set amount of their revenue but the revenues will be far higher in L2 and L1 because of that. I think once they get to the championship that advantage will start to dwindle - and there’s no chance they compete with the EPL big boys.
 
It's mind blowing to see these two just pottering along in the little shit hole that is Wrexham, two of the worlds biggest stars and here they are weekly in the stadium, atop open top buses... It's mental.
 
It isn’t their personal worth - it’s the sponsorship deals they are bringing in and the TV Show. They can only spend a set amount of their revenue but the revenues will be far higher in L2 and L1 because of that. I think once they get to the championship that advantage will start to dwindle - and there’s no chance they compete with the EPL big boys.

I mean, it’s a rarity, but Bournemouth Got promoted from league 2 in 2010 and then found themselves promoted to the premier league just 5 years later in 2015

I doubt it will happen too Wrexham but I think they’ll do well with what we’ve seen of their structure so far.

They faced adversity quite well in Rob and Ryan’s first season in charge by missing out on promotion by finishing 2nd. Granted they’ve splashed the cash for that level so you’d expect them too bounce back but you’ve got to splash it wisely, money isn’t always an immediate fix, they’ve hit almost everything right so far.

I wouldn’t be surprised too see them in League 1 or the Championship in less than 5 years, but it’s a tough road.
 
It isn’t their personal worth - it’s the sponsorship deals they are bringing in and the TV Show. They can only spend a set amount of their revenue but the revenues will be far higher in L2 and L1 because of that. I think once they get to the championship that advantage will start to dwindle - and there’s no chance they compete with the EPL big boys.

This is what I think. Championship might be their ceiling but who knows really.

But still, it would be great for Welsh football having 3 clubs in the Championship.

I think they'll easily sell out 15,500 in L1 and Championship and could potentially increase stadium to 20,000.

It's possible with very competent recruitment and management they could get promoted to PL.

But that's the same for every club. They're all competing for same players and managers.

Maybe by then they'll bring in extra investment by selling some shares.
Another celebrity would be good.

Russel Crowes grandfather's from Wrexham.
Harry Styles grew up an hour away and his bandmate owns Doncaster Rovers.
 
They will need to adhere to strict FFP regulations in the football league,

that will hit them very hard and make it difficult to scale to league structure as quickly as people are suggesting they will.
 
McElhenny mentioned on his podcast recently that he's been to Wrexham 8 times this year. The jetlag must be murder.

Fit it in while writing and filming an entire season of TV, as well.
 
They will need to adhere to strict FFP regulations in the football league,

that will hit them very hard and make it difficult to scale to league structure as quickly as people are suggesting they will.

FFP is more of an advantage than a hindrance.

They'll have the highest turnover in L2 and one of the highest in L1