No chance that Giggs will ever become a Utd manager. People had enough issue with Jose poking someone's eye, how do you think they will perceive someone who was banging his brother's wife for 8 years. Great player yes, great human being, NO. Dont want him near our club. Thanks for your services, you were greatly rewarded, have a nice life.
Ryan Giggs | Interviewed for Wales job
- Thread starter FC Ronaldo
- Start date
Don’t give a damn about any of that and I’m sure most people don’t but most people wouldn’t want Giggs as manager until he has proven himself elsewhere.
Well he didn't always play as much as he could and he's done absolutely nothing in management. Like a much less loyal much less experienced gareth Southgate
Well, I think the club was built on certain values, so it will never happen. They had the chance to give him the job twice, but they refused.
It's not that. What about Gary Speed and Mark Hughes? And fans even seem more open to Craig fecking Bellamy than Giggs.
It's because he didn't turn up for friendlies, or that he retired from international football to continue his United career. None of which affect his ability to be a good manager.
I'm not completely oblivious to the reasons, as you can see above, it's just the level of hate/resistance shocks me.
They should give him an 8 year contract.
I do give a damn though, just like i dont want suarez / Terry near our club for what they did. And what giggsy did is much worse.
I lost all respect for him. At the end of the day football is just football, there's more important thing than how good you kick a ball.
A lot of Wales fan don't like him because he often pulled out of squads with 'injury' only to be back again for Utd's next game.
When exactly did you lose all respect for him though? It couldn’t be because of his affair because you said this 5 years ago:
“My preference will be Jose 5 years at least, win 2-3 cups to steady the bastion post SAF, and after that we can give it for either Ole, Garry, Giggs, Scholes, etc for long term building, while they clock up the needed experience either inside or outside the club”
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/moyes-to-succeed-ferguson-anyone.74640/page-25#post-12692212
It was more on i dont care who gets the job after jose
Just watching the Class of 92: Full Time and Giggsy dropping Nelson Mandela's name into a town council planning permission meeting for Salford City's stadium was great 
This is true, but he still racked up 64 caps, which is quite a lot for a team that never qualified for bugger all and someone who hardly played any friendlies. He also played until he was 33, an age that sees very few pros continue with international footy.
It seems we'd have preferred him to tare his hamstring playing a friendly against Moldova than turn up for competitive matches.
Yep.
I am hoping he gets signed by some other club/country, so at least MUFC are not linked to him.
The other positive is that if he gets a job and does well and starts building experience, if he turns out to be any good, he may manage us some day.
But up there you said you did care about Giggs getting the job. So when did your faux outrage begin?
I don't care who gets the job after Mourinho, and I wasn't a fan of Giggs taking over, not then and not now, for both inexperienced and his moral activity.
You literally said you did care. I’ll leave you to it though.
Your point is? We're just a football fans, how I perceive giggs has no bearing on whether he gets the job or not. That's up to the board.
But if it's up to me then he's not getting it.
John Hartson was on Talksport today giving Giggsy pelters. As a few have just said earlier, it was more to do with Giggs lack of commitment during his Wales playing days and the amount of games he never showed up for. They're more disgusted with him for his previous lack of commitment and his dour demeanour. Hartson doesn't want him anywhere near the Wales job.
The point is abundantly obvious. Your ire at Giggs has manifested itself long after the act you claim puts you off him.
Well that's your interpretation then.
Well he was LVG’s assistant and was interim manager for a few games post Moyes. Him not getting the job is more to do with having no experience than his affair.
Tommy Docherty was sacked by United in 1977 for banging the cleaning lady. So United has a history of upholding certain values.
I don't really want Giggs as Wales manager, but I'm not overly averse to it as there ain't many options. Still one or two I'd take over him.
I'm very glad he didn't get the Swansea job though.
I'm very glad he didn't get the Swansea job though.
Are you in the Hartson camp?
I think giggs off field reputation and being a former united player is driving the dislike. Gary speed had three very underwhelming months as manager of Sheffield united before doing a very good job. Bellamy is even less experienced.
Giggs could be a great appointment. If hired he should be backed and he will need to prove worthy of that backing
Giggs could be a great appointment. If hired he should be backed and he will need to prove worthy of that backing
I'm glad a United legend didn't tarnish any chance of a managerial career with that shite team either.
Well the first time after Moyes the affair was not really known, just speculation. I believe that spending 2 years with LvG and getting his coaching license would have been an option but they declined him, again.
ZZ got the job at R Madrid with no real experience, and don't even mention R. Madrid B, cause they are just like our reserves team.
I am not. When Hartson did his coaching badges, they used a local development team, my brother was one of the players involved. Said Hartson was a lovely bloke but an awful coach. He may have got better as this was years ago, but it sticks out in my mind.
erm ok?
No, it's not even close to our reserve team. They were playing to Segunda Division. Zidane had to face week in week out professional teams fighting for relegation, promotion etc not just teams with some youngsters and others suffering from lack of match fitness.
Sorry, I meant are you in the Hartson camp...as in his views about Giggs and why he shouldn't be the Wales manager?
Not about Hartson taking the job himself. Sorry, should have clarified.
Ohh gotcha! My bad man.
I haven't heard what Hartson had to say, from this thread I gather that his opposition is due to Giggs lack of commitment during his playing years towards Wales. I don't actually hold this against Giggs so in that sense his appointment wouldn't bother me (And I expect him to get the Wales job). I'd just rather someone with experience, I wouldn't mind Osian Roberts at all due to his experience with the national set up.
I didn't want Coleman originally, so my opinion means feck all.
To be fair giggs was banging his sister in law... which by any standards is feking low
I'm just saying you lot are sitting rock bottom and you're glad a footballer of his caliber wasn't able to steer you to the top?
“Footballer of his caliber” No disagreements with you there, he was an incredible footballer. He’s never managed though so why would I choose him to be the manager of the club I love. What makes you think he’d steer Swansea to the top?
No one was close to SAF the way he was. From a young age till he was 40, he has learned from the best of the best. This whole talk of "prove yourself somewhere else" is crap. That's not how modern football works. Madrid has proved that with Zidane
So you want Giggs at United then?
wife of the physio but sure facts are for losers
Maybe not now because we're in trouble but we should have instead of Moyes