Ryan Giggs | Interviewed for Wales job

Mourinho's second season into a major rebuilding job, massive improvement on last year where we finished 6th, still in all competitions barring the League Cup and we're talking about giving the job to Giggs. Some people have absolutely lost it...
We were second. Now we're third. We might be second again tomorrow. Sack the manager and replace him with a total novice.

Some people never had it in the first place.
 
Does giggs have an attacking system like the newer managers today? He could be another guy who just lets the attackers go out and do their thing.

He may have an eye for talented young players but there's a job for that. It's called a scout
 
Mourinho's second season into a major rebuilding job, massive improvement on last year where we finished 6th, still in all competitions barring the League Cup and we're talking about giving the job to Giggs. Some people have absolutely lost it...
We're playing just as shite as we were.
 
We're playing just as shite as we were.
So despite the very well thought out system the Premier League have come up with, that clearly states how well or badly a team is doing, we're basing all our hiring and firing criteria on "How well we're playing"?

I think you've forgotten just how far we've come. Do you remember Moyes? Aspiring to be like City then breaking all the wrong records? How about LVG? I bet there is an entire season of games you'll never remember, if you could be bothered to watch.

Yes, we're currently in bad form but form is temporary. You're going to look very silly when we're back to winning ways. At least Mourinho know's how to address the issues.
 
So despite the very well thought out system the Premier League have come up with, that clearly states how well or badly a team is doing, we're basing all our hiring and firing criteria on "How well we're playing"?

I think you've forgotten just how far we've come. Do you remember Moyes? Aspiring to be like City then breaking all the wrong records? How about LVG? I bet there is an entire season of games you'll never remember, if you could be bothered to watch.

Yes, we're currently in bad form but form is temporary. You're going to look very silly when we're back to winning ways. At least Mourinho know's how to address the issues.
Yes. That’s what football is about. Fair enough if we were winning the big trophies but we are miles and miles off playing this dirge while our City rivals are miles ahead playing incredible football. Football is about entertainment. We haven’t really come far at all since Moyes. Things are better yes but we’re in a top 4 battle now miles off the league talking about needing another £200m to spend just like we were then.
 
I don’t think Giggs will ever be taken seriously as our manager after that Wilson up top and Lawrence in the hole scene with Scholes and Neville.
 
I don’t think Giggs will ever be taken seriously as our manager after that Wilson up top and Lawrence in the hole scene with Scholes and Neville.

Didn't Wilson score twice in the game giggs started him up top?
 
Why does Ryan Giggs get suggested as our manager and Paul Scholes doesn’t ?! They both have same credentials !

Giggs seems to have been picked out by Fergie as having the right credentials to be a top manager. I have no idea what they are but it seems many within the club shared that view.

Interesting that Paul Scholes applied for the u23 job and the club chose Ricky Sbragia instead. That is with Nicky Butt as head of the academy. I found that really surprising.

I think the u23 job would have been a very good one for Giggs.
 
I’m talking about the clip where they’re discussing it, not the actual game.

And out of interest what extent have you been involved in football, dressing rooms and so on? Continental coaches like guardiola or ancellotti don't go around changing rooms quoting Freud. Pretty much every behind the scenes clip you see sees managers coaches and players talking in cliche. There's only so many ways to say a players is up top and another is in the hole, and writing off a mans credentials (any man not just giggs) based on a video clip is absurd really. The job is on the training pitch, getting energy levels and enjoyment through the roof, man managing players, being able to see what's going wrong during games and thousands of other little interactions and decisions that ultimately set the tone of the entire club.

Not on an itv dovumentary clip.
 
Yes. That’s what football is about. Fair enough if we were winning the big trophies but we are miles and miles off playing this dirge while our City rivals are miles ahead playing incredible football. Football is about entertainment. We haven’t really come far at all since Moyes. Things are better yes but we’re in a top 4 battle now miles off the league talking about needing another £200m to spend just like we were then.
Wondered how long it would be before you cited City as a reason to fire Mourinho. Do you realise how dangerous that way of thinking is? By that logic, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea will also be manager-less at the end of the season if we're now using our rivals as a barometer for how well we're doing.
Don't worry about City, being jealous isn't going to help us, firing a manager that desperately wants to put Pep in his place won't help us either. This could be the making of Mourinho in the same way that Liverpool was the driving force behind Fergie for a while.
The squad needs investment, that's no secret, just because we've spent money in the past doesn't mean we've spent it wisely and £200m nowadays isn't even a lot anymore, it gets you two quality players. Back Mourinho in the transfer market and he'll improve us.
After finishing 6th last season, I don't think a single person on this forum said they honestly thought we would win the league this year anyway so I don't even understand where all these expectations have come from.
 
There an arguement to be made that IF we had appointed Giggsy AFTER Moyes he couldn't have done a worse job then the managers since.

He knows the club, respected by the players because of his distinguished playing career (all 3 of Moyes, LVG and Mourinho had no playing career) so wouldn't "lose the dressing room" ala Mourinho, plays a brand of football that he learned from Fergie so would sign players to play a system they already knew.

I honestly think he was worth a chance, even if it was only 1 season.. risk in football is what makes it exciting.

It is a shame we will never know now.. always have that "What if?" question lingering..

If I was owner of the club I'd sack Mourinho right now as his brand of football when we have no chance of winning trophies isn't going to cut it.. and "give it Giggsy!" till seasons end and let's get some excitement and attacking back. Old Trafford and Stretford end rocking bringing the good times back.

If it doesn't work out in the summer I'd appoint either Carlo Ancelotti or Poch.

Simple, common sense. But don't expect a plan by the people running this club like the above. Real Madrid are winning trophies because they are ruthless feckers with managers, Manchester United are a soft touch because of tradition.
 
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There an arguement to be made that IF we had appointed Giggsy AFTER Moyes he couldn't have done a worse job then the managers since.

He knows the club, respected by the players so wouldn't "lose the dressing room" ala Mourinho, plays a brand of football that he learned from Fergie so would sign players to play a system they already knew.

I honestly think he was worth a chance, even if it was only 1 season.. risk in football is what makes it exciting.

It is a shame we will never know now.. always have that "What if?" question lingering..

If I was owner of the club I'd sack Mourinho right now as his brand of football when we have no chance of winning trophies isn't going to cut it.. and "give it Giggsy!" till seasons end and let's get some excitement and attacking back. Old Trafford and Stretford end rocking bringing the good times back.

If it doesn't work out in the summer I'd appoint either Carlo Ancelotti or Poch.

Simple, common sense. But don't expect a plan by the people running this club like the above. Real Madrid are winning trophies because they are ruthless feckers with managers, Manchester United are a soft touch because of tradition.

Whilst it might have been the romantic option prior to Moyes' appointment, it would also have been the furthest thing possible from common sense. As to the situation we now find ourselves in, he's no longer familiar with the majority of the squad (or the backroom teams), with many of the players of such an age that there were newer shinier players for them to wish to emulate when growing up. He has no experience other than a secondary role and four games in charge of running any football club, let alone the biggest club in the world. He has no experience in buying and selling players (he was a one-club guy, after all, so he doesn't even have experience of that side of it).

It would be an absolute clusterfeck.

Your last paragraph (since edited) is/was completely contradictory.
 
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There an arguement to be made that IF we had appointed Giggsy AFTER Moyes he couldn't have done a worse job then the managers since.

He knows the club, respected by the players because of his distinguished playing career (all 3 of Moyes, LVG and Mourinho had no playing career) so wouldn't "lose the dressing room" ala Mourinho, plays a brand of football that he learned from Fergie so would sign players to play a system they already knew.

I honestly think he was worth a chance, even if it was only 1 season.. risk in football is what makes it exciting.

It is a shame we will never know now.. always have that "What if?" question lingering..

If I was owner of the club I'd sack Mourinho right now as his brand of football when we have no chance of winning trophies isn't going to cut it.. and "give it Giggsy!" till seasons end and let's get some excitement and attacking back. Old Trafford and Stretford end rocking bringing the good times back.

If it doesn't work out in the summer I'd appoint either Carlo Ancelotti or Poch.

Simple, common sense. But don't expect a plan by the people running this club like the above. Real Madrid are winning trophies because they are ruthless feckers with managers, Manchester United are a soft touch because of tradition.
Tell that to Moyes who was sacked after 10 months and LVG who was sacked after winning the FA Cup.

Also, Mourinho has already won two trophies with his brand of football.
 
Why does Ryan Giggs get suggested as our manager and Paul Scholes doesn’t ?! They both have same credentials !

Giggs has the UEFA Pro License and therefore can manage in the top tier on a permanent basis. Scholes is still doing the UEFA A License last time I checked, therefore he can only manage a top tier club on an interim basis of no more than 12 weeks.
 
It would be great if Giggs could be our Pep but the fact that instead of trying himself in lower level he has decided to sit in the studio as a pundit and just wait for a call from Manchester United speaks volumes IMO. Also I don't understand people giving Pep and Zidane as examples. The biggest reason why we couldn't appoint Giggs after SAF and we can't appoint him now is competitiveness in PL. If Real or Barca have a disastrous season, they finish 3rd in the league, sack the manager and start again next season. What happens if we have a disastrous season? We finish outside TOP 4, lose money from CL, likely get reduced sponsorship money for this time and facing difficulties to attract top talent because of no CL. Basically exactly what happened with Moyes who was simply a wrong appointment. Maybe we would have won PL already with Giggs who knows but it's unlikely due to the fact that he seems to be afraid to manage.
 
What's with the thread title? Is Giggs to get his start as a manager with some small Vietnamese club? :p

I don’t think Giggs will ever be taken seriously as our manager after that Wilson up top and Lawrence in the hole scene with Scholes and Neville.
Are you talking about the 'tactics room' scene from when he was interim manager? :D No idea why he agreed to do a documentary on that.
 
And out of interest what extent have you been involved in football, dressing rooms and so on? Continental coaches like guardiola or ancellotti don't go around changing rooms quoting Freud. Pretty much every behind the scenes clip you see sees managers coaches and players talking in cliche. There's only so many ways to say a players is up top and another is in the hole, and writing off a mans credentials (any man not just giggs) based on a video clip is absurd really. The job is on the training pitch, getting energy levels and enjoyment through the roof, man managing players, being able to see what's going wrong during games and thousands of other little interactions and decisions that ultimately set the tone of the entire club.

Not on an itv dovumentary clip.
My original comment was really tongue in cheek
 
My original comment was really tongue in cheek

Can never tell on this forum, and in any case just fuels the venom toward giggs. Wasn't having a go, just responding as if comment was legitimate
 
Wales would be the perfect fit for Giggs, He could do other stuff off the pitch with the media,Salford and all the other stuff he's involved in plus if he does well with Wales that would link him to a premier league
job.

Think the Welsh FA want it too with Giggs being a big name but... Don't think the Welsh fans really take to Giggs as much as people think.
 
Wonder if he will turn up for the friendlies
 
It's quite unbelievable the amount of hate from Welsh fans toward this possible appointment.

Maybe as a United fan, and a big fan of Giggs, I am blinkered but I just don't get it.
 
It's quite unbelievable the amount of hate from Welsh fans toward this possible appointment.

Maybe as a United fan, and a big fan of Giggs, I am blinkered but I just don't get it.
Taking a wild guess here - but maybe it's his lack of experience?

You're blinkered mate.