Fergies Formula
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Why does Ryan Giggs get suggested as our manager and Paul Scholes doesn’t ?! They both have same credentials !
We were second. Now we're third. We might be second again tomorrow. Sack the manager and replace him with a total novice.Mourinho's second season into a major rebuilding job, massive improvement on last year where we finished 6th, still in all competitions barring the League Cup and we're talking about giving the job to Giggs. Some people have absolutely lost it...
Why stop there? Sure the whole class of 92' would be well up for taking over on a rotation basis per game.Why does Ryan Giggs get suggested as our manager and Paul Scholes doesn’t ?! They both have same credentials !
We're playing just as shite as we were.Mourinho's second season into a major rebuilding job, massive improvement on last year where we finished 6th, still in all competitions barring the League Cup and we're talking about giving the job to Giggs. Some people have absolutely lost it...
So despite the very well thought out system the Premier League have come up with, that clearly states how well or badly a team is doing, we're basing all our hiring and firing criteria on "How well we're playing"?We're playing just as shite as we were.
Yes. That’s what football is about. Fair enough if we were winning the big trophies but we are miles and miles off playing this dirge while our City rivals are miles ahead playing incredible football. Football is about entertainment. We haven’t really come far at all since Moyes. Things are better yes but we’re in a top 4 battle now miles off the league talking about needing another £200m to spend just like we were then.So despite the very well thought out system the Premier League have come up with, that clearly states how well or badly a team is doing, we're basing all our hiring and firing criteria on "How well we're playing"?
I think you've forgotten just how far we've come. Do you remember Moyes? Aspiring to be like City then breaking all the wrong records? How about LVG? I bet there is an entire season of games you'll never remember, if you could be bothered to watch.
Yes, we're currently in bad form but form is temporary. You're going to look very silly when we're back to winning ways. At least Mourinho know's how to address the issues.
Giggs has more coaching experience so not really.Why does Ryan Giggs get suggested as our manager and Paul Scholes doesn’t ?! They both have same credentials !
I don’t think Giggs will ever be taken seriously as our manager after that Wilson up top and Lawrence in the hole scene with Scholes and Neville.
Giggs has more coaching experience so not really.
I’m talking about the clip where they’re discussing it, not the actual game.Didn't Wilson score twice in the game giggs started him up top?
Why does Ryan Giggs get suggested as our manager and Paul Scholes doesn’t ?! They both have same credentials !
I’m talking about the clip where they’re discussing it, not the actual game.
Wondered how long it would be before you cited City as a reason to fire Mourinho. Do you realise how dangerous that way of thinking is? By that logic, Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea will also be manager-less at the end of the season if we're now using our rivals as a barometer for how well we're doing.Yes. That’s what football is about. Fair enough if we were winning the big trophies but we are miles and miles off playing this dirge while our City rivals are miles ahead playing incredible football. Football is about entertainment. We haven’t really come far at all since Moyes. Things are better yes but we’re in a top 4 battle now miles off the league talking about needing another £200m to spend just like we were then.
Yes, they have more coaching experience as well.Keane? Ole? Bruce? Hughes?
There an arguement to be made that IF we had appointed Giggsy AFTER Moyes he couldn't have done a worse job then the managers since.
He knows the club, respected by the players so wouldn't "lose the dressing room" ala Mourinho, plays a brand of football that he learned from Fergie so would sign players to play a system they already knew.
I honestly think he was worth a chance, even if it was only 1 season.. risk in football is what makes it exciting.
It is a shame we will never know now.. always have that "What if?" question lingering..
If I was owner of the club I'd sack Mourinho right now as his brand of football when we have no chance of winning trophies isn't going to cut it.. and "give it Giggsy!" till seasons end and let's get some excitement and attacking back. Old Trafford and Stretford end rocking bringing the good times back.
If it doesn't work out in the summer I'd appoint either Carlo Ancelotti or Poch.
Simple, common sense. But don't expect a plan by the people running this club like the above. Real Madrid are winning trophies because they are ruthless feckers with managers, Manchester United are a soft touch because of tradition.
Tell that to Moyes who was sacked after 10 months and LVG who was sacked after winning the FA Cup.There an arguement to be made that IF we had appointed Giggsy AFTER Moyes he couldn't have done a worse job then the managers since.
He knows the club, respected by the players because of his distinguished playing career (all 3 of Moyes, LVG and Mourinho had no playing career) so wouldn't "lose the dressing room" ala Mourinho, plays a brand of football that he learned from Fergie so would sign players to play a system they already knew.
I honestly think he was worth a chance, even if it was only 1 season.. risk in football is what makes it exciting.
It is a shame we will never know now.. always have that "What if?" question lingering..
If I was owner of the club I'd sack Mourinho right now as his brand of football when we have no chance of winning trophies isn't going to cut it.. and "give it Giggsy!" till seasons end and let's get some excitement and attacking back. Old Trafford and Stretford end rocking bringing the good times back.
If it doesn't work out in the summer I'd appoint either Carlo Ancelotti or Poch.
Simple, common sense. But don't expect a plan by the people running this club like the above. Real Madrid are winning trophies because they are ruthless feckers with managers, Manchester United are a soft touch because of tradition.
Why does Ryan Giggs get suggested as our manager and Paul Scholes doesn’t ?! They both have same credentials !
Are you talking about the 'tactics room' scene from when he was interim manager? No idea why he agreed to do a documentary on that.I don’t think Giggs will ever be taken seriously as our manager after that Wilson up top and Lawrence in the hole scene with Scholes and Neville.
My original comment was really tongue in cheekAnd out of interest what extent have you been involved in football, dressing rooms and so on? Continental coaches like guardiola or ancellotti don't go around changing rooms quoting Freud. Pretty much every behind the scenes clip you see sees managers coaches and players talking in cliche. There's only so many ways to say a players is up top and another is in the hole, and writing off a mans credentials (any man not just giggs) based on a video clip is absurd really. The job is on the training pitch, getting energy levels and enjoyment through the roof, man managing players, being able to see what's going wrong during games and thousands of other little interactions and decisions that ultimately set the tone of the entire club.
Not on an itv dovumentary clip.
My original comment was really tongue in cheek
Something is better than nothing I guess.
Rooney ruling.
Wonder if he will turn up for the friendlies
Wonder if he will turn up for the friendlies
Rooney ruling.
Wonder if he will turn up for the friendlies
Taking a wild guess here - but maybe it's his lack of experience?It's quite unbelievable the amount of hate from Welsh fans toward this possible appointment.
Maybe as a United fan, and a big fan of Giggs, I am blinkered but I just don't get it.