RW Options

Niemans said:
Yeremi Pino, Nico Williams, Adeyemi, Rayan Cherki.

Each with different characteristics but good options I think. Cherki is the one that creates the most doubts in me.
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Nico would just be another Pellistri, Elanga or Amad type who isn't ready to start and needs lots of time and development, and Bilbao won't sell for anything short of a huge number since they can't exactly replace him with a powerful dribble since those are rare as hell in the Basque country. Fits their often fairly direct style. Inaki-Sancet-Nico might be their best front 3 in a long time, or Berenguer and Nico either side of an Inaki-Sancet front 2.
 
NoPace said:
Nico would just be another Pellistri, Elanga or Amad type who isn't ready to start and needs lots of time and development, and Bilbao won't sell for anything short of a huge number since they can't exactly replace him with a powerful dribble since those are rare as hell in the Basque country. Fits their often fairly direct style. Inaki-Sancet-Nico might be their best front 3 in a long time, or Berenguer and Nico either side of an Inaki-Sancet front 2.
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Think Sancet is the biggest talent as well, he looks like he's got real top class potential.
 
NoPace said:
Nico would just be another Pellistri, Elanga or Amad type who isn't ready to start and needs lots of time and development, and Bilbao won't sell for anything short of a huge number since they can't exactly replace him with a powerful dribble since those are rare as hell in the Basque country. Fits their often fairly direct style. Inaki-Sancet-Nico might be their best front 3 in a long time, or Berenguer and Nico either side of an Inaki-Sancet front 2.
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Nico and Pino would cost good money and can obviously improve their game a lot.
Nico is very fast and very powerful. Technically he is not very skilled, but with his speed he can go out on both sides and center with both legs.

Lash said:
Think Sancet is the biggest talent as well, he looks like he's got real top class potential.
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Sancet is along with Muniain Athletic's most technically gifted player.
Sancet's problem is that his position is AMC and Marcelino always plays 4-4-2 with the midfielders in line.
We will see if he continues as coach of Athletic, anyway in the academy there is no striker with a future. So most likely he will continue to play there.

Ewan Urain. He has been injured for 2 years and it seems that he has not evolved well in his game.

The option that Athletic has is to sign,
and the 2 options are in the Real Sociedad:

- Jon Bautista (26) Loaned in the Leganes
- Jon Karrikaburu (19). Barcelona was also interested in this player. He has a clause of €60M. Difficult to sign.
 


Finally there are som concrete rumours about us going after this guy. Please go after Nkunku as well.
 
Left footed, but it looks like he's played a split between the left and right this season? In fact, his entire career has been split between both wings - with slightly more games played on the left.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Left footed, but it looks like he's played a split between the left and right this season? In fact, his entire career has been split between both wings - with slightly more games played on the left.
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This season he's played slightly more on the RW. But over his career yeah, he's played more games on the left. Going by stats alone he seems most productive as a RW. This is from Transfermarkt.

Played AsGamesGoalsAssists
Left Winger791920
Right Winger542017
Left Midfield8-3
Attacking Midfield2--
Second Striker2--
Right Midfield2--
Centre-Forward1-
 
Do you United have a natural RW like Raphinha? No
Do you United need a natural RW like Raphinha? Yes

And why do you United need a natural RW like Raphinha?
Because United to strength and boost up the service to United CF. So United CF will rise the chance to score 20 goals + each season. If United dont have such a RW like Raphinha. On this level and qualities. It's doesn't matter if your CF name is Lewandoski, Ronaldo or Messi. You will still struggle.
No consistent top service. One of the key ingredients and factor behind every CF success and goals is the top consistent service they get.




Leeds match against Norwich showing Raphinha what a top natural RW can do and will be able to do.
Around 1 min 55 sec ino the video. He passed the goalkeeper, came down to the line. Keep is calm and composure with the ball. And did what he shall do at this moment. The right decision making. Pass the ball 45 % angle out to his teammates and set up a easy tap in.

Comparison to other premier league RW like City Mahrez or Chelsea Ziyech. Raphinha is definitely on the same leve as those two players. Mahrez is more lightweight and a bit faster than Raphinha. But Raphinha is working harder than Mahrez and Ziyech.

And if United get and shall get Raphinha and a top quality creative nr.8, offensive and creative cm player. I am sure and believe United CF will score 20 goals + next season. Not including penalities. No matter who you put of Ronaldo, Rashford or with 2 upfront. With the top consistent service. It will lead, the reason will lead to 20 goals + for United CF options.

Potential line up like this

First with 442:

Raphinha - Bruno - McFred - Sancho + Rashford - Ronaldo

4411 :

Raphinha - Pobga - McFred - Sancho/Rashford + Bruno + Ronaldo/Rashford


I believe in the relations between players. I believe in the qualities of football players teammates. Relations and combinations together build up good collective attack playing. One of the big reasons why United CF and attacking players are struggling this season. And two last season with Ole and seasons back with LVG were United attacking players like Rooney, Falcao, Di Maria, Rashford and Martial were struggling a period. But still good enough to win FA cup under LVG.

Modern and today RW are more left foot and cut it in. Start with Arjen Robben with Chelsea. And Raphinha is that kind of RW. He can both go both sides. Pass defenders on both sides. He has both the abilities to come down to the line and deliver a 45 angle % pass to his teammates or cut in in and curle it/shoot.

United need a specialist and natural RW like Raphinha. Not a more CF like Rashford to play as RW and underperforming. Because Rashford is not a natural RW. Ole bought Sancho to play RW. But in somehow Ragnick prefer Sancho as LW. And put Rashford as RW.
Buying Raphinha will strenght United as a team and collective. And strength the help and service to United CF


Conclusion and sum up. Raphinha is my best recommendation for the RW. He made straigh good impact in his first season in the premier league with Leeds. Its just show his mentality and qualities. No need time to adapt. Like Bruno to United. Because if you belong to the top or really close to the top. True top quality. Both skill and mentality. You dont need time to adapt. Raphinha did showed it. Raphinha level is really. Both skill and mentality. Signs and reason that will lead to = consistent. Both performances and mentality aspects.

And in the end. It is big pleasure watching Raphinha playing football. His touch of the ball. Diagonal passes from right to left winger. Its looks so easy and precise. And one of the criteria to judge a football players skills = its how theirs touch the ball. Special theirs first touch of the ball. All from Maradonna, Rivaldo, Messi, Robben, Mahrez and to Raphinha. First touch of the ball and ball control. On the highest speed with the ball. Its where it apart the best from the second best. Ball control and flair.
Raphinha has it. And United need it.
 
Raphinha seems as obvious a buy for RW as Mahrez was a few years back. That’s why we wouldn’t do it.
 
If we want to break the bank for estabilished quality, I would say Jarrod Bowen should be our main target. I really like this fella: aggressive, determined and skilled.

As an alternative, I think Berardi deserves another chance at a top club: he's really quality whenever I've seen him play and his numbers are way up there to prove it. Also, if we could snatch Kulusevski to Spurs it woud be very good: he's actually playing very well.
 
If price wasn't an issue (while still keeping the choices somewhat realistic, no Mbappe, etc), I would order my preferences like this:

1. Nkunku
2. Raphinha
3. Bowen
4. Diaby
5. Pino
6. Antony
7. Cody Gakpo
8. Berardi
9. Rafa Silva
10. Madueke

I assume Nkunku would cost significantly more than Raphinha so considering our current situation where we need to make a lot of 1st team signings I would probably go for Raphinha if he's super cheap. I like Michael Olise but too early for him to move to a top club yet imo, especially when considering his cost would probably be higher than some of the others at a similar level. Berardi and Rafa Silva are just a bit older than the age we should be focusing on imo, but 2 great talents that I'm really surprised a big club hasn't gone for yet. I think Gakpo is great but he's definitely more natural on the left and I'm not sure how easily he could transition to the rw. If Real were open to selling Rodrygo on the cheap, I wouldn't be against going for him either. I know he hasn't performed at the level of the others to this point but Vinicius had similar struggles before exploding this season which has me wondering if he could be a decent option (maybe better as a backup though, probably too risky to go for as a 1st choice rw for us at this time). We need squad depth in this position too so I wouldn't be against us going for any of them if there's a bargain to be had.

I think any of the top 4 options would make a major difference to our first 11, whereas Pino and Antony would be more longer term improvements.
 
I'm not sure how good Diaby is against defences sitting back, but I suppose we could play him left and Sancho right and have tons of width. Great on the counter though Diaby. Doesn't take extra touches and keeps the pace up in the attack.
 
Jibbs said:
I want a front three of Sancho, Nkunku or Nunez and Raphinha or Antony. Sell Martial and Rashford.
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I like the sound of that except Nunez. Don’t think he’s good enough. Maybe for Spurs, not us.
 
Maybe in the minority but I don’t think Raphina is good enough to justify the fee it’d cost to get him.
 
Sayros said:
No love for Michael Olise?
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Think Olise is too similar to Sancho in how they play (integrating with passes into the midfield frequently). United need a direct winger with more pace to pre occupy the fullbacks.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Anthony Gordon this season from Everton. Easily passes the eye test. Looks like he's got the talent to go up a level at a bigger club.

I still think Raphina should be a number one choice, almost a no brainer has league experience and is a comfortable replacement for the influence of Greenwood.
 
When did rw become an issue again, that is what we brought sancho for no?
 
Vapor trail said:
Think Olise is too similar to Sancho in how they play (integrating with passes into the midfield frequently). United need a direct winger with more pace to pre occupy the fullbacks.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Anthony Gordon this season from Everton. Easily passes the eye test. Looks like he's got the talent to go up a level at a bigger club.

I still think Raphina should be a number one choice, almost a no brainer has league experience and is a comfortable replacement for the influence of Greenwood.
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They have similarities, but I think Olise still brings a couple of differences. First of all, he's left footed and can cut inside seamlessly from the right wing compared to the other options, he's not a slow player by any means, he's very flexible positionally, and he's physically a problem for defenders already at 20. He's also very creative which is never something United can say they have too much of. He's just someone I think will be a very good player very soon and people will regret not getting him.
 
Vapor trail said:
Think Olise is too similar to Sancho in how they play (integrating with passes into the midfield frequently). United need a direct winger with more pace to pre occupy the fullbacks.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Anthony Gordon this season from Everton. Easily passes the eye test. Looks like he's got the talent to go up a level at a bigger club.

I still think Raphina should be a number one choice, almost a no brainer has league experience and is a comfortable replacement for the influence of Greenwood.
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Think you are talking about a style that got out of fashion a long time ago. These days you have playmaking/goalscoring wingers that occupy the half space between fullbacks and CBs and have you RB and LB overlap the inside forwards. I wont be a problem if we get a similar player looking for interplay instead of running in to cross or shoot.
 
Vapor trail said:
Think Olise is too similar to Sancho in how they play (integrating with passes into the midfield frequently). United need a direct winger with more pace to pre occupy the fullbacks.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Anthony Gordon this season from Everton. Easily passes the eye test. Looks like he's got the talent to go up a level at a bigger club.

I still think Raphina should be a number one choice, almost a no brainer has league experience and is a comfortable replacement for the influence of Greenwood.
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You've just condraticted yourself with the Raphinha comparison who is also a playmaker from the right as opposed to pace merchant direct winger.

Olise and Raphinha are a decent comparison tbh.
 
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Whoever we get needs to be fast as feck. With Sancho on the left our team lacks the necessary pace. Rashford and Elanga have pace but at this time not the required quality.

Unless you pass the ball as good as City you will need rapid wide players in our system and we'll never be able to pass like City because we don't have the players for that.

So the question is out of all of these suggestions who is really quick?
 
Vapor trail said:
Think Olise is too similar to Sancho in how they play (integrating with passes into the midfield frequently). United need a direct winger with more pace to pre occupy the fullbacks.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Anthony Gordon this season from Everton. Easily passes the eye test. Looks like he's got the talent to go up a level at a bigger club.

I still think Raphina should be a number one choice, almost a no brainer has league experience and is a comfortable replacement for the influence of Greenwood.
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I agree with you, we 100% need pace and dribbling flair on one of our flanks.

I like Gordon, think he has a bright future, but he's a right footed LW. He's impressed me though since I watched him a few seasons ago, his base level is high.

For me the best option out of everyone mentioned is the one moving for free in the summer - Ousmane Dembele. Injury concerns but he's on track for 30+ appearances this season, and has managed 40+ appearances in his last 2 out of 3 seasons. The ability to beat players with both feet, at pace, and assist with both feet, he could be really something special in our team.

I wasn't a big fan of signing Sancho and still not a huge fan of his due to his slowness, but with a player like Dembele on the other side it would help balance Sancho's game a lot too.
 
Lee565 said:
When did rw become an issue again, that is what we brought sancho for no?
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Since Sancho has been playing LW most of the season. I’m not sure why though. He had a couple of excellent games on the RW and then never got played there again. It’s very odd.

We actually lack threat from our full backs which is why Rangnick has tried Telles and Dalot over Shaw and AWB. It makes sense to have inverted wingers with attacking full backs providing width. It makes no sense if AWB is providing the width.
 
Harvey Barnes needs to be on with a shout. He’s better than Bowen who’s getting a lot of love these days.
 
Our wide players next season will be

Sancho
Rashford
Elanga
Diallo

Possibly greenwood depending what happens

But I think there are so many other areas that will be higher priorities

Probable pogba replacement
A defensive midfielder
Right back and or centre back
Possible Ronaldo replacement
 
Unless we sign another Antonio Valencia like right footer with zero ability to use their left we’re just gonna end up signing wingers and playing them on the left, it’s like a never ending cycle.
 
Mainoldo said:
Harvey Barnes needs to be on with a shout. He’s better than Bowen who’s getting a lot of love these days.
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He’s right footed and plays on the left. We need a right winger.
 
We've got too many positions that needs strengthening to worry about RW. Hopefully, Jadon do the job at RW and Rashford can recover his form
 
devilish said:
We've got too many positions that needs strengthening to worry about RW. Hopefully, Jadon do the job at RW and Rashford can recover his form
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Not likely to happen on either count. Sancho seems to have cemented himself on the left and we need a replacement for Greenwood.

We need to do a lot of business this summer but right wing has to be a priority.
 
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