If he gets interim then nothing changes. We can’t score goals and he was brought in surely to help that.
Ruud van Nistelrooy has joined United's coaching staff
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
He was spot on though.
Anyone can just say "oh we need a lot of new players".
Especially to cover their back after a disasterous spell.
Jap. Also noticed this today quite heavily.
Also that chat between the two on the bench.
I guess it was always the case with Ruud back. He is a character that is for sure.
Nonsense, he's assisting on Ten Hags orders - he doesnt get to call the shots himself while Ten Hag is still the manager.
It's pretty obvious that RR was shafted by Murtough. He brought him in and then threw him under the bus to save himself. Rangnick was saying these things with confidence due to being one of the key decision makers moving forward. He could criticise players openly because he thought he'd be involved in assessing which ones would be kept or not.
His main problem was saying that he wouldn't rule out becoming the manager after the season. He should have kept that to himself and Murtough. And almost directly shooting at the Glazers publicly was just too risky. Even though he was correct.
He's done a fairly good job as Austria manager. I'm happy he found something after the circus that was his final 3 months or so. We settled down for a few months immediately after Ole was sacked. Carrick started it.
It didn't really look that heated, tbh. No doubt it'll get blown up more because of the way things are going, but the actual clip itself is very tame.
Let’s get back to the coaching part and what he was brought in for… helping our ST score goals. That hasn’t panned out as it.
exactly. Just look at how Mckenna team plays and he was Ole assistant
We need to stop saying hottest property as Ten Hag was never that. He was the hipsters choice and has proven why we should never listen to those people again.
A fifty year old who never managed outside the Dutch league is not the hottest property around
Again, Ten Hag decides the attacking patterns - not Ruud. He can coach all he likes but Ten Hag tells the players how to act.
Help within Ten Hag's system, no? I don't want RVN, but there's only so much he can do when the team is set up this poorly.
Ruud won’t set them up any better. I doubt we get anywhere near top 4 if he takes over till end of season… if someone like Tuchel came in we’d probably get closer to top 4
What is Arne Slot then? Of course he had a much more solid situation prepared for him by Klopp, but looks like he's making an even better Liverpool himself.
I don’t believe this at all. You bring in coaches for there ideas on how to coach specific areas. So ETH decides the set piece routines to despite bringing in a set piece specialist.
Apart from the romance of having Ruud manage United, I can't see him changing anything other than giving the team a temporary boost for a few games, before the norm sets in again and the same old problems return.
Firmly against this.
If it was 3/4 of the way through the season then maybe, but with so much of the season left I'd be uncomfortable with it. I wouldn't have enough assurances over his managerial capabilities to feel confident that sometimes catastrophic won't happen, being a continuation of what's happening now or worse.
There's no excuse. The leadership team will have known that something like this was extremely likely to happen and they should have viable options on their radar.
If it was 3/4 of the way through the season then maybe, but with so much of the season left I'd be uncomfortable with it. I wouldn't have enough assurances over his managerial capabilities to feel confident that sometimes catastrophic won't happen, being a continuation of what's happening now or worse.
There's no excuse. The leadership team will have known that something like this was extremely likely to happen and they should have viable options on their radar.
Torn on him getting the interim job. One of my favourite United players ever. Doesn't get the credit he deserves.
But... as others have said, most of the season is still to play. Give the new permanent manager a free hit for the rest of the season to get his stamp on the team on the understanding we hit the ground running next season.
But... as others have said, most of the season is still to play. Give the new permanent manager a free hit for the rest of the season to get his stamp on the team on the understanding we hit the ground running next season.
We aren't getting top 4. Get that out of your head, for a start.
What was he meant to do about it? He recommended signings and the board declined every single one...
Everything he said has since come true
The way the commentators and some on here go on about him being good for the strikers really oversells the impact of coaches from great ex players.
Henry was a coach to Lukaku for quite a while and feck knows what that did. Martial improved a bit under Ole but hardly to the level that another coach couldn’t have gotten out of him.
If it was all about appearing smart and being a world class centre forward, every club would have one of these as coaches.
Henry was a coach to Lukaku for quite a while and feck knows what that did. Martial improved a bit under Ole but hardly to the level that another coach couldn’t have gotten out of him.
If it was all about appearing smart and being a world class centre forward, every club would have one of these as coaches.
Where in that post did I say we would?
Use your eyes for a start.. I said ‘closer’People said he'd improve our attack but it's worse than ever.
The people who thought this were naive to think an assistant would suddenly make us a superior attacking side when the manager's philosophy is clearly focused on counters. That's not to say Ruud hasn't been a positive influence and that he couldn't implement a more attack minded philosophy as caretaker.
And he most likely will field those players who are currently shit
God I hope we don't get him as an interim manager.
And no one has any idea how much of that is down to RvN’s short time in his specialized coaching role, or how much if it is down to Ten Hag’s broader tactics, or other things going on within the squad or coaching set up. So how can you confidently state it won’t change once Ten Hag goes? We have no idea what will happen then.
Is Ruud even the strikers coach? I was under the impression he is Erik's number two
Can we please just sack/terminated/ban anything Dutch in or around the club for the next 10 years. I'm tired of all things Dutchball.
Nobody thought Carrick would have done much as a short term interim. He was a part of two failed regimes under Mourinho and Ole.
But he dug out some good results. I'd have no real issue with Ruud as interim for a month or two. He has more managerial experience than Carrick did.
But he dug out some good results. I'd have no real issue with Ruud as interim for a month or two. He has more managerial experience than Carrick did.
IF and I stress IF, Ruud's main role is to help our attackers score, he has been an absolute failure, so far.
We should give him a bit more time though. His goal-scoring pedigree is unquestioned, so he has some goodwill in the bank. But if goal-scoring woes continue for the whole season, he should be relieved of his duties.
Failed employees should NEVER be allowed to continue at the club. It's this kind of mediocrity that now has us in 14th place.
Yeah I never got why people defended Rangnick. Some people say he got fired for "telling the truth" but I'm not sure what he's supposed to have said or done.
Maybe. Sometimes coaches are good at completely different things to their playing career.
How has he been a positive influence? Our worst attacking playmaking in the post-SAF days seem to "now". And that is a 10-year period.
What is the point of keeping a coach in the payroll when he does shit all, worse still, when the manager's philosophy is opposite that coach's?
By all accounts his interactions with the players have been positive. There’s only so much an assistant can do under a mediocre manager.
Reposting in case it was missed. Ruud talks about his tactics in his cup final win v Ajax.
I don't get this. Interim? Sure. Needs must.
Beyond that, and the fact we'd not need to order another security pass for the entrance at the training ground, I don't understand the clamour.
We can't appoint on the same basis Ebenezer Scrooge orders a turkey by going to whoever happened to be there at the time when he decided to open the window
Beyond that, and the fact we'd not need to order another security pass for the entrance at the training ground, I don't understand the clamour.
We can't appoint on the same basis Ebenezer Scrooge orders a turkey by going to whoever happened to be there at the time when he decided to open the window
Didnt the fans say the same thing about Ole's assistants Carrick and Mckenna that they were useless in training.
Who is available that is like Tuchel?
Cup final wins mean nothing...haven't you been reading the posts on here.