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A lot of the time that's what they do. Stay hidden for days watching somebody and shitting in a plastic bag. It's not often they're doing the American Sniper thing.
They may or may not watch their targets for a long time, but what you describe - watching them with their families, daily routines, other civilian activities are completely unrelated to the actual battlefield where a combat sniper operates.
 
Oh she’d happily do that.

The New Statesman published an article answering that very question yesterday. It does a better job than I ever could.
https://www.newstatesman.com/world/.../03/why-parts-of-the-us-right-cant-quit-putin

Old Testament god would be down with it.

I went down the rabbit hole of that article, and I ended up at a Michigan Republican saying this when talking about his daughter's viral tweet begging people not to vote for him:

“I don’t buy into this whole systemic racism thing at all,” he later said.

“I’m not saying there’s not hurdles to overcome. We all have hurdles to overcome. You know, as a quote-unquote rich, white, Christian male, people look at me a certain way. And it’s not always good."
 
They may or may not watch their targets for a long time, but what you describe - watching them with their families, daily routines, other civilian activities are completely unrelated to the actual battlefield where a combat sniper operates.

Here's a first hand account of it. As the guy says, they get to know the daily routines of their targets through watching them for days on end. Families and other activities are often part of that as he says. It used to happen a lot in Northern Ireland where the targets were living a 'normal' civilian life until the balaclava went on and guys would be hiding in hedges for days on end watching them play happy families.



What you're thinking of is probably the overwatch job where they do pick people off without much forward planning.
 
I went down the rabbit hole of that article, and I ended up at a Michigan Republican saying this when talking about his daughter's viral tweet begging people not to vote for him:

“I don’t buy into this whole systemic racism thing at all,” he later said.

“I’m not saying there’s not hurdles to overcome. We all have hurdles to overcome. You know, as a quote-unquote rich, white, Christian male, people look at me a certain way. And it’s not always good."
That just about sums it up.
 
Remember though.... the Nazis are in Ukraine!!
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I’m surprised it’s not got more traction.

It’s the most worrying thing I think I’ve heard from Putin since the war if I’m honest and if now makes me think that he won’t stop.

This is all internal theatre. It sounds nuts to anyone from the free world but this is all for internal consumption by a population well versed in it and having had it for years and years from state controlled media. It's just noise and it's desperate.

In my opinion he's scared. He's dug a hole he can't dig himself out of because he's surrounded himself with yes men who tell him everything is fine and seemingly, that the Ukraine "military operation" would be a walk in the park. He's completely miscalculated the West's response, he was not prepared for the sanctions and the fact that theft of state resources under his rule has, on the back of it left the country in tatters. He has no end game because he can't occupy Ukraine. Russia is huge and he'll have to quell insurgencies all over the place, from potential breakaway states who now know the Army is useless.

Almost all Dictators in history go the same way - ultimately ending up in a position where keeping power is the only option, by whatever means and they get more and more desperate.

Fortunately, they usually end up on fire in a ditch when those around them realise they need to do what they have to in the interests of self-preservation. I think it's significant the Oligarchs are speaking out. That suggests they're not scared. Abramovich even flew into Moscow earlier this week.
 
Re. Odessa and those parts of the southern coastline still controlled by Ukraine but being attacked by Russian navy ....

Has there been any news re. the supply of land-based anti-ship missiles to Ukraine? Or are the Ukrainians not trained to sufficiently to be able to use these? Or maybe the systems involved are too bulky for easy transportation and supply? Does a anyone on RedCafe know about such things?
 
This is all internal theatre. It sounds nuts to anyone from the free world but this is all for internal consumption by a population well versed in it and having had it for years and years from state controlled media. It's just noise and it's desperate.

In my opinion he's scared. He's dug a hole he can't dig himself out of because he's surrounded himself with yes men who tell him everything is fine and seemingly, that the Ukraine "military operation" would be a walk in the park. He's completely miscalculated the West's response, he was not prepared for the sanctions and the fact that theft of state resources under his rule has, on the back of it left the country in tatters. He has no end game because he can't occupy Ukraine. Russia is huge and he'll have to quell insurgencies all over the place, from potential breakaway states who now know the Army is useless.

Almost all Dictators in history go the same way - ultimately ending up in a position where keeping power is the only option, by whatever means and they get more and more desperate.

Fortunately, they usually end up on fire in a ditch when those around them realise they need to do what they have to in the interests of self-preservation. I think it's significant the Oligarchs are speaking out. That suggests they're not scared. Abramovich even flew into Moscow earlier this week.
If he's turned into a recluse since Covid and is still largely as such now that suggests to me he's terrified of losing his own life.
 
In Putin's televised warning - what did he mean by people "who cannot live without...gender freedom"?

Isn't there gender freedom in Russia?

Just a little dig at the ‘woke’ and decadent West.
 
Here's a first hand account of it. As the guy says, they get to know the daily routines of their targets through watching them for days on end. Families and other activities are often part of that as he says. It used to happen a lot in Northern Ireland where the targets were living a 'normal' civilian life until the balaclava went on and guys would be hiding in hedges for days on end watching them play happy families.



What you're thinking of is probably the overwatch job where they do pick people off without much forward planning.

I remember seeing a documentary about some of the covert ops in Northern Ireland and one of the army/sniper guys was saying cows were a pain cos they're curious beasts and would come over and start smelling them. They were worried it would give them away. Rumbled by an inquisitive cow:lol:
 
I remember seeing a documentary about some of the covert ops in Northern Ireland and one of the army/sniper guys was saying cows were a pain cos they're curious beasts and would come over and start smelling them. They were worried it would give them away. Rumbled by an inquisitive cow:lol:

Cows are bored feckless in fields. As soon as they see something strange or new off they march to investigate and have a bit of fun. Doesn't surprise me in the least and sounds like an episode of Dads Army. :lol:
 
Here's a first hand account of it. As the guy says, they get to know the daily routines of their targets through watching them for days on end. Families and other activities are often part of that as he says. It used to happen a lot in Northern Ireland where the targets were living a 'normal' civilian life until the balaclava went on and guys would be hiding in hedges for days on end watching them play happy families.



What you're thinking of is probably the overwatch job where they do pick people off without much forward planning.

Happened with an assassinated politician in Donegal decades back. He would have visitors asking for donations to cancer charities, go get his wallet and when he came back the visitor was running down his stairs and out the door. Obviously checking out security.
Fullerton was shot by Loyalists with UK government help and, a few days after, a farmer in a nearby field found planks, trampled down grass etc overlooking Fullertons house that showed he was being watched for days.
 
Found it. This was a good primer on the history of Donbas that was written back in 2015 by Hiroaki Kuromiya, who is one of the leading academics on the region even prior to the wars in the last ten years: https://www.historians.in.ua/index....-donbas-how-to-understand-its-past-and-future

Really interesting article, good to get a proper historical perspective from a specialist. (The?) Donbass seems like a bit of a world unto itself, straddling the Russian and Ukrainian frontier without fully identifying with either. There’s nothing in the article to suggest that a measure of autonomy within Ukraine and protection of language rights wouldn’t satisfy the concerns of the people in the event that Kiev-Moscow relations can be improved.
 
Powerful video that will make Putin apoplectic, especially given that its subtitled and will get shared quite a bit across Russian social media and telegram channels

Indeed. Very well done Arnie.
 
If he's turned into a recluse since Covid and is still largely as such now that suggests to me he's terrified of losing his own life.

Indeed. There are stories today of him having sacked and replaced 1000 staff and having someone taste his food to avoid being poisoned.

I listened to a podcast by Misha Glenney on Audible last year about the rise of Putin and the conclusion from the experts was that his big problem was that he has taken such decisive action to protect himself, there is nobody viable to hand over to who will be a) loyal; and b) can protect him. he can't retire and enjoy his money because he'll always have to look over his shoulder in case the new man does what he did - kill off the threat, including him. The only option therefore seems to be to retain power until he dies.
 
Its forbidden to be gay in Russia, you are asking about gender determination...
It’s not forbidden but I won’t be surprised if they’ll forbid it in the future. There’s a horrible law that forbids “propaganda of LGBT values to underage children” whatever the hell that means (so if you were to say to a gay teenager that it’s, well, okay to be gay, you’ll be liable).
 
It’s not forbidden but I won’t be surprised if they’ll forbid it in the future. There’s a horrible law that forbids “propaganda of LGBT values to underage children” whatever the hell that means (so if you were to say to a gay teenager that it’s, well, okay to be gay, you’ll be liable).

Didn't they pass a similar law in Hungary?
 
It’s not forbidden but I won’t be surprised if they’ll forbid it in the future. There’s a horrible law that forbids “propaganda of LGBT values to underage children” whatever the hell that means (so if you were to say to a gay teenager that it’s, well, okay to be gay, you’ll be liable).
Must have mixed those up . I had heard about it being listed as a medical condition that prohibits some liberties, but that was years ago.