Weird observer psychology I guess. As a participant we’d bathe in the blood of our invaders, but as observers we kinda want to minimise the idea of suffering as it sucks, so we talk about Ukraine winning and not the Russian mummies who’ll never see their boy for another Christmas.
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Weird observer psychology I guess. As a participant we’d bathe in the blood of our invaders, but as observers we kinda want to minimise the idea of suffering as it sucks, so we talk about Ukraine winning and not the Russian mummies who’ll never see their boy for another Christmas.
I was just talkjing to one of the fox news watchers in the office and I saidf I feelt sad for the ukraninians.
his response; when teh cats away and also
his response; when teh cats away and also
With this conflict in particular I feel this is the way to deal with Putin. Put the pressure on those that can pressure him.
Per CNN, the Ukrainian military has started strategic destruction of bridges and dams to slow the Russian advance.
Yeah man i know... i know..
i'm worried for those still in Kyiv. Especially those still trapped on the roads in their cars. If there is carpet bombing, it will be disastrousForget about driving out of the city now. Get out the car and get underground or indoors at least.
On the topic of Russian Casualties, I've heard truly grim rumours that Russian Units have mobile crematoriums so that they can avoid sending body bags home. That suggests that they are expecting huge number of losses so, whatever we are seeing now is just the tip of the iceberg.
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saw some pictures of that. Truly chilling.
Not heard a thing, I'm mostly interested in the Chechen on Chechen action though if there's any truth to that.
Heard those too. Putin wants to control the visual narrative & not repeat the Afghanistan debacle.
My great uncle was at the Chosin Reservoir with Chesty Puller in Korea. Chesty said something similar… “great, now we can shoot at the bastards in any direction”.
I reckon you’re right. Maybe I’m just a callous bastard myself, but it just doesn’t cross my mind in situations like this one. I couldn’t imagine having felt sorrow for Axis or Chi-com forces in WWII or Korea.
What a joke, they're the first jumping at "arming rebels" but now since it's Russia .... er... concerns....
Oh man, just had a really morbid thought cross my mind. Blame Putin for that.
According to recent reports by US intel, the Russians have prepared a kill list for when the invasion succeeds, with specific targets.
What if those mobile crematoriums are meant to...you know where I'm going.
According to recent reports by US intel, the Russians have prepared a kill list for when the invasion succeeds, with specific targets.
What if those mobile crematoriums are meant to...you know where I'm going.
Vitaly Klitschko is not likely to survive this war as Mayor of Kyiv. Harsh reality.
Bit of feel good propaganda, nother film in the works!
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And people were just saying dogfights were no longer a thing...seriously though, we won't know if this is true or not for quite some time.
Well airstrips can be repaired in hours, the only way to permanently shut an airfield down is to occupy it with troops or periodically hit it with airstrikes, standoff missiles.
He and his brother have taken up arms
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/heavy...plans-fight-ukraine-brother/story?id=83094779
You can't be friend US if they sees you as the enemy. The Chinese tried that in the 90s and the US simply bombed their embassy (ooopsss) , I think the Sovyet (or was it Russia?) tried under Gorbachev and got torn to pieces economically, Japan was the 1980s China but they comply and play along.
It's not a simple as cooperate and prosper, sometimes the other party just want to see you burn. Just like Ukraine letting go of their Nukes, doesn't mean Russia respond in kind
I think a lot of people have expressed that they want Ukraine to remain strong but don’t want young Russian soldiers to die. All of that can be encapsulated by a single viewpoint, and thats just objection to the consequences of war.
Usyk too apparently
Makes a lot of sense.
The first thing they do in bootcamp is to brainwash you, you'll be moulded into a killing machine that doesn't think, obey first, shoot second, think later., and to be fair to the Russian every soldiers are trained that way. They don't have time to ponder about killing, live lost, humanity etc in times of war.
And it won't be clear cut black and white from their PoV, with years of propaganda and brainwashing they don't always see themselves as the agressor. Just like American troops feels they're the liberator and defender of Freedom, and to be fair to american as well, every nation soldier that's half competent would have fully indoctrinated their sides with enough ideology not to run away and mutiny at the first chance.
All this is true but the main reason its a dumb idea is there is no common foreign policy so on what basis would it fight?
If it existed now, would it be sent to defend Ukraine?
The Germans would veto it because they need the gas and feck Ukraine. That is what they are all doing right now on swift because their energy policy is a catastrophic failure that Ukrainians not Germans are going to die for. The poles would have paid into an organization it could not depend on so why would it want to contribute. The French would want to take the budget to build the equipment and use it on their own objectives dressed up as EU objectives. It would be a dangerous cluster feck of inaction and EU committee designed structures of uselessness and expensive bemedaled grandiose job titled cnuts.
Imagine being a Russian soldier going door to door in Kiev and suddenly finding himself face to face with Wladimir Klitschko
Lomachenko appears to have fled for Greece.
Well, as it stands, Putin has brought those consequences down upon his own people, as well as the Ukrainians. The Russian soldiers can stop dying at the moment of Putin’s choosing. The only way for Ukraine to force that is to inflict the heaviest losses possible on the Russian military for every km of ground ceded.
Do pabachennya
Definitely avoiding hand to hand combat...
I think, with all due respect to the Ukrainians, the Russian are probably still hoping for a swift cease fire, a full scale atrocity war is not what they have in mind, and it serves no purpose in 2022. If this turns into Leningrad things could go very very very bad pretty fast with today's technology.
And I think Zelinsky is still hoping he could close a deal (albeit with heavy concessions) soon to buy time, it's impractical for Ukrainians to throw their lives without any endgame in sight, the same for Russia, their end game is concession I think, not a full destruction of UKR.
Wonder what the massive Russian and Dagestan MMA community of fighters are thinking.
Wonder how Tucker is spinning this invasion?
Clearly he missed the memo to quit
Just some thoughts on world's Leader, that it's easy for us to ask why not X send Troops to Y etc.
But for leaders of their respective nation every decision weights a mountain, and there's no guarantee that they'll pick the right choices. Germany for all it's worth could have abandoned the gas and go hard on Russia, but the economic downfall could be catastrophical in the midst of corona not yet ending. The same with Americans to be fair to them, this time the stake is high, a fully nuclear powered megalomaniac, not some goat herder stuck in the mountains, and my thoughts goes to UKR president, he must have been having a hard time making decisions as every decisions could lead to more death.
Should he compromise, surrender for the safety of his citizen? Should he continue fighting? Should he wait for the not likely to come international aid? Should he send his fellow countrymen to a brutal war? Can the Russia be trusted with cease fire? Would retaliating brings a harsher reaction?
Those are questions that could lead to people dying, either way, it's not easy for them to make any decisions at this point.
Just some thought
But for leaders of their respective nation every decision weights a mountain, and there's no guarantee that they'll pick the right choices. Germany for all it's worth could have abandoned the gas and go hard on Russia, but the economic downfall could be catastrophical in the midst of corona not yet ending. The same with Americans to be fair to them, this time the stake is high, a fully nuclear powered megalomaniac, not some goat herder stuck in the mountains, and my thoughts goes to UKR president, he must have been having a hard time making decisions as every decisions could lead to more death.
Should he compromise, surrender for the safety of his citizen? Should he continue fighting? Should he wait for the not likely to come international aid? Should he send his fellow countrymen to a brutal war? Can the Russia be trusted with cease fire? Would retaliating brings a harsher reaction?
Those are questions that could lead to people dying, either way, it's not easy for them to make any decisions at this point.
Just some thought