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See what I mean? And yet I'm the one you accuse of having no idea about this war.

So he sent the 60 km long convoi consisting of military vehicles to Kiew just for fun?


And as for the Russian economy being "a shambles", how's the German economy doing these days? I recall back in March 2022 Bruno le Maire (French finance minister) and Christian Lindner (German finance minister) each vowed to "crush" the Russian economy by summer 2022. Here we now are in December 2024 and both the Germans and French governments have collapsed primarily over massive economic issues. Turns out vassalising yourselves to Washington's economic and geopolitical interests is kind of a stupid thing to do. By all means keep on doing it though and then pinning every election that doesn't go your way on the "Putin-sympathising far right".

German exports are higher than Russia's GDP. Our average income is almost four times as high as the Russian one. I think we're good, thanks :)


See mate, you can just stop it here. I think you're either unable of critical thinking or willfullingly manipulating. You won't convince me of anything because I don't take you seriously.
 
All of which were lies and have led to the functional destruction of Ukraine?
And there it is ladies and getlemen. There it is.

Its not Putin who led to the funcional destruction of Ukraine, its the West who told Zelenskiy to fight. After all, if they've let them Russians would just come with roses and good will and would just spread happiness and joy. Its Ukrainians fault they didnt just let them invade the country and surrender right away. Ukraine is Russia after all like Putin, which this Everton fan admires, say so.

Seems thinking about Russian army, Putin and Russian economy gives you a hard on.
 
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The hunt for one of the mountain of dead North Koreans that Zelenskiy keeps saying is accumulating in Kursk goes on.

"Our place should have been there [in eastern Ukraine], not here in someone else’s land,” Pavlo said. “We don’t need these Kursk forests, in which we left so many comrades.”

And despite weeks of reports suggesting that as many as 10,000 North Korean troops have been sent to Kursk to join the Russian counter-offensive, the soldiers we’ve been in contact have yet to encounter them.

“I haven’t seen or heard anything about Koreans, alive or dead,” Vadym responded when we asked about the reports.

The Ukrainian military has released recordings which it says are intercepts of North Korean radio communications.

Soldiers said they had been told to capture at least one North Korean prisoner, preferably with documents.

They spoke of rewards - drones or extra leave - being offered to anyone who successfully captures a North Korean soldier.

“It’s very difficult to find a Korean in the dark Kursk forest,” Pavlo noted sarcastically. “Especially if he’s not here.”


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4x9gz4ylwo

And...

"He said the Russian troops Ukrainians faced in Kursk were a mixture of well-trained paratroopers from the 76th Brigade, but also less organised Chechens, and African mercenaries. But he has seen no sign of the 12,000 North Korean troops that, according to the Pentagon, have been sent to Kursk. Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky also told the Japanese Kyodo news agency Sunday that some North Koreans had been killed by Ukrainian forces and that they would ultimately be used as “cannon fodder” by the Kremlin.

"When we catch them or see a body,” Oleksandr said, “then I’ll know for sure that they’re here.”


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/03/europe/ukraine-russia-kursk-soldiers-incursion-intl/index.html

Funny how Zelenskiy keeps tweeting that Ukrainian troops are massacring North Koreans left right and centre yet there is not a shred of evidence for this (in the most extensively photographed and documented war in history no less) and not one of the Ukrainian soldiers in Kursk that both the BBC and CNN have spoken to have ever actually seen one of them.

Hopefully Zelenskiy's new plan to offer cash rewards to any soldier who can actually find one of these 12,000 North Koreans that they're gunning down will pay dividends.
Actually before I go I have an update on The Hunt for the Invisible North Koreans. The Daily Mail thought they had finally become the first people to track down the most elusive entity since the Higgs boson - one of the 12,000 North Korean soldiers in Kursk, whom Zelenskiy assures us are being massacred on a daily basis.

Alas they'd fallen for a (blatantly obvious) fake.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-14158131/Clarifications-corrections.html

Back to square one.

As I referenced in the quoted post, Zelenskiy is now offering prizes like extra drones (let the stupidity of that sink in) or days off the front line for any Ukrainian soldier who can find him any, for the love of God ANY, of these thousands of North Koreans who are swarming all over Kursk and rushing headfirst into the meat grinder. Still no Ukrainian soldier or media outlet has ever seen one, despite this being the most extensively documented war in history.

Yet it's I on here who am being taken in by bullshit and propaganda apparently.

This is progress though. The last 2 pages on here have featured posters discussing potential terms of a settlement. 2 years ago, some of these exact same posters, every single one of them a NEVULL CHAIYMBBURLIN scholar, were aggressively attacking anyone who dared suggest that this war will end in a settlement rather than Ukrainian victory. Just a shame they couldn't have seen what was obvious 30 months ago. From my end there are no hard feelings. It's Ukraine you jackasses owe an apology to.

Peace.
 
What, you mean you DON'T know loads of Everton supporters who only post 1000 word essays about Kremlin talking points on football forums?

You live a very sheltered life, man.
I’m yet to understand why he has free reign here to spout russian propaganda when his agenda is clear. You see, you have clever tankies like the banned guy omg they killed Kenny guy who was at least subtle on his approach but this guy takes it to a new level with a shameless defense of his criminal regime paymasters. The version of Hitler did some good things Putin style.

Typical western weakness. Go try to do that on russian social media. Sign up as a dynamo Dresden or Hansa Rostock fan so you can have some leniency. See how it goes.

Mods took a stand when some pro israeli users were denying the obvious genocide and ethnic cleansing of palestinians yet in this case we have an active troll farm russian asset doing his job with minimal pushback. Some of you are complicit too interacting with him.

There’s no reasoning with this kind of people. My wife shows me that on Ukrainian online communities. His modus operandi is always the same, come here whenever russia is on a roll murdering civilians, attacking civilian targets, fecks off when Ukraine does well militarily, threatens that it will be his last post when attacked by other users for what he really is and then back again when he receives his turnips. It’s pretty transparent to the non gullible people.
 
Its not Putin who led to the funcional destruction of Ukraine, its the West who told Zelenskiy to fight.
Yep, you've almost got it. Putin is why Ukraine was invaded. The West is why Ukraine has lost. You promised them things that you did not deliver. You could have won this war for Ukraine. You chose not to.
 
Just one more thing before I go. :lol:

Peace.
He does the same thing over and over again. He really thinks he doing his patriotic duty for the motherland when in reality no one buys his bs except for sweet care and people of his ilk.
 
Yep, you've almost got it. Putin is why Ukraine was invaded. The West is why Ukraine has lost. You promised them things that you did not deliver. You could have won this war for Ukraine. You chose not to.
Peace. :lol:
 
Guy gets beaten up by thug but clearly it’s the guys mate whose fault it is because

“He didn’t really want to get involved that much”
 
I'm not Russian, I'm a Brit. And I admire many things about Putin but his Ukraine policy and strategy aren't among them. The February 2022 invasion was the biggest mistake of a political life that has contained relatively few of them given how long it's been.
:lol: you weirdo s1mp
 
Chill guys. I wasn’t buying what he was selling either. There’s a special place for trolling in these threads. That place is banville
 
Now he can enjoy his Friday like he said he will 5 posts ago.
No way. That’s not like russian troll farms work. He will now sign up to RAWK as a Newcastle fan to spread the gospel.
 
Chill guys. I wasn’t buying what he was selling either. There’s a special place for trolling in these threads. That place is banville

Looks like having a different viewpoint is quickly considered trolling on these shores
 
221 total posts, 197 of which have been used to suck Putin off in this thread. :lol:

How did he manage this long without getting banned?
 
221 total posts, 197 of which have been used to suck Putin off in this thread. :lol:

How did he manage this long without getting banned?

He stayed longer because his posts offered a degree of contrast to the pro-Ukraine position that represents about 95% of this thread. He also didn't post frequently, which in some ways took the edge off of what he was saying. At the end of the day, he failed to read the room and was eventually shown the door.
 
Looks like having a different viewpoint is quickly considered trolling on these shores

Shame for him. The way he idolizes Putin, a place that suppresses his opinion probably has an irresistible appeal to him.
 
221 total posts, 197 of which have been used to suck Putin off in this thread. :lol:

How did he manage this long without getting banned?
He didn't start *that* to be fair bad and had a unique enough perspective that grants a lot of good will in the beginning.
 
I did know an expat Everton fan from my days in Moscow who stayed on after the rest of us scarpered in 2014. His initials were also DT as far as I recall. But I struggle to reconcile the memory of the scouser propping up the bar with the late lamented Putin propagandist of this thread.
 
I did know an expat Everton fan from my days in Moscow who stayed on after the rest of us scarpered in 2014. His initials were also DT as far as I recall. But I struggle to reconcile the memory of the scouser propping up the bar with the late lamented Putin propagandist of this thread.

This guy was apparently set up in the suburbs of St. Pete
 
Not everyone spreading propaganda is a bot. Some just buy into the stuff and really believe it.
 
Not everyone spreading propaganda is a bot. Some just buy into the stuff and really believe it.
He wasn't a bot but I sincerily believe he was part of a troll farm. Why claim to be a British Everton fan and only write russian propaganda? Not a single football threads contribution either about his supposed club or even about United. I mean during the years we had users defending russian POV, who bought the stuff and believed Kremlin talking points but had a somewhat credible forum historial with plenty of football posts. Why sign up for a football club forum just to spam propaganda? There are plenty of forums that focus just on current affairs and the Ukraine VS russia conflict. Obviously people will get suspicious regarding his intentions.
 
He wasn't a bot but I sincerily believe he was part of a troll farm. Why claim to be a British Everton fan and only write russian propaganda? Not a single football threads contribution either about his supposed club or even about United. I mean during the years we had users defending russian POV, who bought the stuff and believed Kremlin talking points but had a somewhat credible forum historial with plenty of football posts. Why sign up for a football club forum just to spam propaganda? There are plenty of forums that focus just on current affairs and the Ukraine VS russia conflict. Obviously people will get suspicious regarding his intentions.
His early posts in the Newbies seemed much more sympathetic to the Ukrainian plight from what I remember.
 
His early posts in the Newbies seemed much more sympathetic to the Ukrainian plight from what I remember.
It was a mean to get out of the newbie forum. When promoted his posts and motivations were pretty clear.
 
82k confirmed deaths. Real figure probably above 100K with different statistical methods.

 
Just realised that he joined Red cafe during the Crimean invasion.

Joined in October 2014, around the time there was an election in Ukraine.

I've said this before, but more specifically he joined around the time the Russian troll farms (Internet Research Agency, etc) were being set up. The IRA operated mainly out of St. Petersburg and are known to target any old gaming/sports type communities, lil old caf wouldn't be off the cards. I'd expect they would go round setting up accounts all over the show, any forum that looks reasonable active. This DT12 account was dormant until 2022 pretty much. He stated in one of his first posts he lived in St. Petersburg, or at least travelled between UK/there or something.

He certainly writes like he does this for a living, often posting essays against whatever points, backed up by multiple western media links he's always got to hand, containing half-truths to back up his points. As if ready made, cos he's posted similar stuff on 20 other websites that day.

Its obvious, as it was with that Kenny guy with his very fist post in this thread. The "admires Putin" thing made me laugh as I remember reading from a whistle-blower that they aren't allowed to slag off Putin no matter what.

If he ISN'T a paid troll, then that's just stupid and leaving money on the table. I'm sure they pay very well for fluent English speakers. He just needs to make sure it isn't paid in roubles. Fortunately we have crypto nowadays to facilitate the world's crime funding needs.
 
Anyway, moving on from the Khoroshisyn Park diehard, the impending collapse of their pet regime in Syria does indicate that their resources are stretched to breaking point.
 


Very interesting itw with Lavrov who makes great points
 
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How do you separate the “great points” from lies and propaganda? For instance, only a minute in and he denies that Russia is even at war.

He does mention a hybrid war. To me his points are factual especially with regards to the situation in Ukraine leading to the coup in 2014.