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Shit's not looking good for AFU right now :(

Every news I'm getting is more bad news, atmosphere on my friends whatsapp groups are all negative, people are starting to lose hope.
 
Shit's not looking good for AFU right now :(

Every news I'm getting is more bad news, atmosphere on my friends whatsapp groups are all negative, people are starting to lose hope.

What are looking like the biggest problems do you think?
 
Shit's not looking good for AFU right now :(

Every news I'm getting is more bad news, atmosphere on my friends whatsapp groups are all negative, people are starting to lose hope.
I asked you a few weeks ago if the Ukrainian Kursk counter-offensive was doomed to fail.

Did the Ukrainian manpower and equipment taken from the main front to carry out this operation have a significant impact on the current situation and why the AFU is doing so badly at the moment?

Weeks ago, some saw the Kursk Operation as a foolish endeavor and failed diversion, with no real purpose other than a short-term tactical victory and the occupation of a piece of land of no strategical importance (especially since the capture of Kursk's nuclear power plant, which was the most likely objective, isn't on the cards anymore). It weakened the south-eastern front and was bound to backfire due to the AFU's predictable inability to supply and protect that "bridgehead". Comparisons with the German counter-offensive in the Ardennes in 1944 were already drawn.

Is there any truth to their claims?
 
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Shit's not looking good for AFU right now :(

Every news I'm getting is more bad news, atmosphere on my friends whatsapp groups are all negative, people are starting to lose hope.
You should see the other guy...

Anything specific or they all just being bludgeoned by the info war? Winter is coming I suppose, and its going to suck.

I've been getting the opposite feeling of late tbh. It's funny how the news always seems so dire for Ukraine, yet if you take a step back and look how this war has progressed since day 1, the needle has only ever moved in Ukraine's favour. That's only going to continue, there's nothing to suggest otherwise.

Reports like Putin announcing the recruitment of another 120k troops seem to worry people for some reason, on top of the 30k/month. It's a pretty shocking admission of how badly they are doing and just speeds up the ticking clock their country is tied to. Heard another report the other day about them surpassing the US in number of armed forces personnel or something. Its comical, just bullshit noise. Ukraine showed how close to the bone Russia is operating. There's no mythical reserve force, they are all in on Ukraine and struggling. Trading Russian lives en masse for what barely counts as a few pixels on a map of Ukraine. They have plenty more pixels to spare and will happily take the trade, its important Russia doesn't stop using their mad tactics. They brag about replacing their losses like its something to be proud of... but these numbers, and the fact they are dying for nothing, literally not a fecking thing, not to protect Russia, not to protect the Russian people, nothing. Realisation is a slow but unstoppable train.

The other thing in our news every day is how "Biden prevents Ukraine hitting long range targets in Russia", meanwhile Ukraine routinely devastates long range targets in Russia every other day...

AFU is manipulating the battlefield right now, they've done it at Pokrovsk and they've done it at Kursk. The speed they breached the border to flank the Russian 'counter-attack' was just... amusing... You need a very specific force to perform that task and they were sat there waiting.... The trolls were so incredibly excited for like half a day when they took some of the map back, awfully quiet ever since :lol:
 
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You should see the other guy...

Anything specific or they all just being bludgeoned by the info war? Winter is coming I suppose, and its going to suck.

I've been getting the opposite feeling of late tbh. It's funny how the news always seems so dire for Ukraine, yet if you take a step back and look how this war has progressed since day 1, the needle has only ever moved in Ukraine's favour. That's only going to continue, there's nothing to suggest otherwise.

Reports like Putin announcing the recruitment of another 120k troops seem to worry people for some reason, on top of the 30k/month. It's a pretty shocking admission of how badly they are doing and just speeds up the ticking clock their country is tied to. Heard another report the other day about them surpassing the US in number of armed forces personnel or something. Its comical, just bullshit noise. Ukraine showed how close to the bone Russia is operating. There's no mythical reserve force, they are all in on Ukraine and struggling. Trading Russian lives en masse for what barely counts as a few pixels on a map of Ukraine. They have plenty more pixels to spare and will happily take the trade, its important Russia doesn't stop using their mad tactics. They brag about replacing their losses like its something to be proud of... but these numbers, and the fact they are dying for nothing, literally not a fecking thing, not to protect Russia, not to protect the Russian people, nothing. Realisation is a slow but unstoppable train.

The other thing in our news every day is how "Biden prevents Ukraine hitting long range targets in Russia", meanwhile Ukraine routinely devastates long range targets in Russia every other day...

AFU is manipulating the battlefield right now, they've done it at Pokrovsk and they've done it at Kursk. The speed they breached the border to flank the Russian 'counter-attack' was just... amusing... You need a very specific force to perform that task and they were sat there waiting.... The trolls were so incredibly excited for like half a day when they took some of the map back, awfully quiet ever since :lol:

Easy to say when it's not you and yours that are dying I think. I'm not sure you understand just how many Russians (and foreign recruits) they are willing and able to feed into the meat grinder. The Nazis literally killed millions of them and they didn't stop fighting. Ok that was a war where they were themselves attacked and these are of course different times, but we're nothing like on that scale yet. It's Putin and his cronies running out of money for weapons and soldiers' pay that will stop this war, and I'm not sure we'll be there for a good while yet. Easy to see how you could feel hopeless if you were Ukrainian right now.

Actually, how are the Russian coffers looking these days, have they made a big hole in that $600bn reserve or whatever it was yet or is it still sizeable?
 
Russia’s military command had anticipated Ukraine’s incursion into its Kursk region and had been making plans to prevent it for several months, according to a cache of documents that the Ukrainian army said it had seized from abandoned Russian positions in the region.

 
BBC have identified 70K killed Russians. These are confirmed deaths, not estimated total deaths (which is likely higher).

More than 70,000 people fighting in Russia’s military have now died in Ukraine, according to data analysed by the BBC.

And for the first time, volunteers - civilians who joined the armed forces after the start of the war - now make up the highest number of people killed on the battlefield since Russia’s full-scale invasion began in 2022.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjr3255gpjgo
 
Interesting how Ukraine are suddenly able to hit these high value sites deep inside Russia. They where not able to hit them for 2 and a half years but now they have hit 3 in as many days.
It's almost like they have got their hands on some low RCS cruise missiles and the approval of strikes on a certain type of target inside Russia.
 
Interesting how Ukraine are suddenly able to hit these high value sites deep inside Russia. They where not able to hit them for 2 and a half years but now they have hit 3 in as many days.
It's almost like they have got their hands on some low RCS cruise missiles and the approval of strikes on a certain type of target inside Russia.
Maybe or their ability is just naturally evolving as the war continues?
 
Interesting how Ukraine are suddenly able to hit these high value sites deep inside Russia. They where not able to hit them for 2 and a half years but now they have hit 3 in as many days.
It's almost like they have got their hands on some low RCS cruise missiles and the approval of strikes on a certain type of target inside Russia.

They've been hitting high value targets for months with their slow af long range drones, which can apparently be difficult for radar to pick up. I'm not sure these ammo dumps would have been better protected than some of their most active air bases. It might just be that they've been waiting for NK/Iranian deliveries to stockpile.

If they've deployed something different this last week its probably the home made kit they've already talked about. The jet drones or the ballistic missile they said was successfully tested last month.
 
They've been hitting high value targets for months with their slow af long range drones, which can apparently be difficult for radar to pick up. I'm not sure these ammo dumps would have been better protected than some of their most active air bases. It might just be that they've been waiting for NK/Iranian deliveries to stockpile.

If they've deployed something different this last week its probably the home made kit they've already talked about. The jet drones or the ballistic missile they said was successfully tested last month.
Maybe they recently got information about where the biggest depots are located.
 
You should see the other guy...

Anything specific or they all just being bludgeoned by the info war? Winter is coming I suppose, and its going to suck.

I've been getting the opposite feeling of late tbh. It's funny how the news always seems so dire for Ukraine, yet if you take a step back and look how this war has progressed since day 1, the needle has only ever moved in Ukraine's favour. That's only going to continue, there's nothing to suggest otherwise.

Reports like Putin announcing the recruitment of another 120k troops seem to worry people for some reason, on top of the 30k/month. It's a pretty shocking admission of how badly they are doing and just speeds up the ticking clock their country is tied to. Heard another report the other day about them surpassing the US in number of armed forces personnel or something. Its comical, just bullshit noise. Ukraine showed how close to the bone Russia is operating. There's no mythical reserve force, they are all in on Ukraine and struggling. Trading Russian lives en masse for what barely counts as a few pixels on a map of Ukraine. They have plenty more pixels to spare and will happily take the trade, its important Russia doesn't stop using their mad tactics. They brag about replacing their losses like its something to be proud of... but these numbers, and the fact they are dying for nothing, literally not a fecking thing, not to protect Russia, not to protect the Russian people, nothing. Realisation is a slow but unstoppable train.

The other thing in our news every day is how "Biden prevents Ukraine hitting long range targets in Russia", meanwhile Ukraine routinely devastates long range targets in Russia every other day...

AFU is manipulating the battlefield right now, they've done it at Pokrovsk and they've done it at Kursk. The speed they breached the border to flank the Russian 'counter-attack' was just... amusing... You need a very specific force to perform that task and they were sat there waiting.... The trolls were so incredibly excited for like half a day when they took some of the map back, awfully quiet ever since :lol:

You're missing the point completely.

You can always argue that "For every 1 soldier Ukraine loses, Russia loses 4"

Yeah great, war is going fantastically.

I couldn't give less of a feck. It's clear Russia doesn't care about the hundreds of thousands -> Millions in dead, wounded, crippled or traumatized.

I care. We do not have the population size, or demographic pyramid to sustain this - Russia also doesn't but again they do not give a feck.

If your idea of "winning" is "when all the dust is settled, we only lost one eye, are deaf, and lost 2 limbs, whereas our opponents have lost 3 limbs, blind in both eyes and needs to eat out of a tube" then quite fecking frankly I'd rather not win.

I want to fight for freedom and for the sake of a free and independent Ukraine. But if that freedom is paid for with the price of an entire generation of dead men that will never be replaced and a permanent state of rumpness, corruption and depravity, it just isn't worth it.

You can't eat freedom and you freedom doesn't provide a roof over your head - no matter what the Americans tell you.
 
Meanwhile in Episode #1315 of "Russia is hilariously incompetent" we bring you:

Russia bought hundreds of Iranian Ballistic Missiles but forgot to buy the launcher trucks and they are incompatible with existing Russian trucks, therefore unable to be used.
 
They've been hitting high value targets for months with their slow af long range drones, which can apparently be difficult for radar to pick up. I'm not sure these ammo dumps would have been better protected than some of their most active air bases. It might just be that they've been waiting for NK/Iranian deliveries to stockpile.

If they've deployed something different this last week its probably the home made kit they've already talked about. The jet drones or the ballistic missile they said was successfully tested last month.
Considering these ammunition storages seems to have been underground concrete bunkers they must have used something armed with a penetrator warhead, that combined with the distance to the target excludes every weapon in the Ukrainian arsenal that I have heard about.
 
Speaking of… is this the first Stage 5 DTM vs Stage 5 DTM war?

I doubt it.

The Thirty Years War saw something stupid like 40% of the population of central Europe wiped out over the decades, from direct war, famine, disease, natural disasters etc.

I'm also sure in the Dark Ages there would have been wars between regressively shrinking kingdoms and Empires. Or Any war fought during the peak of the Black Death.

In the modern era I'd imagine so.
 
I doubt it.

The Thirty Years War saw something stupid like 40% of the population of central Europe wiped out over the decades, from direct war, famine, disease, natural disasters etc.

I'm also sure in the Dark Ages there would have been wars between regressively shrinking kingdoms and Empires. Or Any war fought during the peak of the Black Death.

In the modern era I'd imagine so.
Those were all Stage 1 DTM countries
 
Those were all Stage 1 DTM countries

I can't imagine there being high birth rates in any of those places.

For example, every abled man specific states of Central Europe in 30 years war (Now Germany/Czech/Austria/Hungary) etc were drafted from villages and then sent to slog it out and die. Many of these men went town to town slaughtering entire populations.

There was a huge imbalance of men and women after the war ended, and outside of war crimes (see: Rape), the region's reproductive structure was completely gone. Tl;dr there simply were not enough men around to have high birth rates.

Records from this war in particular was pretty lacklustre but in some places birth rate declines were studied and varied between a 25% drop to almost 60% drop in some places.
 
I can't imagine there being high birth rates in any of those places.

For example, every abled man specific states of Central Europe in 30 years war (Now Germany/Czech/Austria/Hungary) etc were drafted from villages and then sent to slog it out and die. Many of these men went town to town slaughtering entire populations.

There was a huge imbalance of men and women after the war ended, and outside of war crimes (see: Rape), the region's reproductive structure was completely gone. Tl;dr there simply were not enough men around to have high birth rates.

Records from this war in particular was pretty lacklustre but in some places birth rate declines were studied and varied between a 25% drop to almost 60% drop in some places.
I know you think that, but the fact is, Stage 5 is a recent development, and nobody even hit Stage 2 until the Industrial Revolution began.

What you are describing above is actually exactly what one would expect to see happen in Stage 1 countries. The HRE had high CBR and TFR, with high CBR and low LE due to things like famine, plague, and warfare. Contrast that with two of the requisites for a Stage 5 country being that it has a naturally low death rate and a higher life expectancy.

But I digress. Just forget I brought it up.
 
Zelinskyy in PA today visiting factories that produce his munitions. Shapiro already preparing for 2028.

 
Zelinskyy in PA today visiting factories that produce his munitions. Shapiro already preparing for 2028.



More than 160,000 Ukrainians call Pennsylvania home — and even though our capitals are separated by thousands of miles, we share a bond with our Ukrainian sisters and brothers.

Ah yes, the 160k Pennsylvanian Ukrainians who aren't legally allowed to be Ukrainian despite their heritage or birthright because of draconic citizenship laws.
 
If your idea of "winning" is "when all the dust is settled, we only lost one eye, are deaf, and lost 2 limbs, whereas our opponents have lost 3 limbs, blind in both eyes and needs to eat out of a tube" then quite fecking frankly I'd rather not win.

I want to fight for freedom and for the sake of a free and independent Ukraine. But if that freedom is paid for with the price of an entire generation of dead men that will never be replaced and a permanent state of rumpness, corruption and depravity, it just isn't worth it.

You can't eat freedom and you freedom doesn't provide a roof over your head - no matter what the Americans tell you.
That's very simplistic way of looking at it. Some countries needed not just decades but centuries to win their freedom at the cost of many generations of dead men and seems that you take that freedom for granted.

Ukrainian people doesn't want Russian rule, that's clear. They are fighting not only for their generation but for the further ones and the future of their children. They got their independence just 30 years ago to lose it again considering they had to wait more than 70 years under Soviet rule. You already have a tenth of the population displaced somewhere in Russia and if they lose the war there's absolutely no guarantee Putin won't strike again. We've seen it with Crimea, then 8 years later we are here once again.
 
Ah yes, the 160k Pennsylvanian Ukrainians who aren't legally allowed to be Ukrainian despite their heritage or birthright because of draconic citizenship laws.
Would you care to elaborate? This isn’t a passive-aggressive question even though it sounds like one. Does Ukraine deny them citizenship or does U.S. somehow make them denounce their heritage in order to get citizenship? I have no idea.
 
Would you care to elaborate? This isn’t a passive-aggressive question even though it sounds like one. Does Ukraine deny them citizenship or does U.S. somehow make them denounce their heritage in order to get citizenship? I have no idea.

Ukraine doesn't allow citizenship to anyone who has citizenship elsewhere.

In order to get another citizenship (say, USA), one has to do some crazy tricks to not get sucked into being drafted into the army.

It's a pain in the ass for the entire Ukrainian diaspora who do not live in Ukraine.

It was always there prior to the war, but nobody cared and I knew many people who unofficially had dual citizenship.

Now, it's being enforced.

The US embassy even put out a travel warning against all US residents with Ukrainian citizenship to travel to Ukraine because there's a very high chance you will land and get mobilized and there's nothing the US government can do to protect you because despite having a US passport, it is not recognised as legitimate in Ukraine.

https://ua.usembassy.gov/message-for-u-s-citizens-elimination-of-residence-abroad-exception-to-dual-citizen-departure/#:~:text=Ukrainian law does not recognize,permitted to leave the country.

EDIT - Oh yeah you cannot revoke your citizenship either.

So if Danil from New York who moved there when he was 3, wanted to visit baba in Kiev, can't revoke his citizenship in order not to get drafted/get stuck in the country as it's illegal for any Ukrainian citizen to leave from the ages of 18-60.
 
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"The most probable outcome of the war will be that a part of Ukrainian territory will be under Russian occupation, temporarily," he said in an interview with The New York Times published Monday, adding that "temporarily" could actually means years.
 
I know you think that, but the fact is, Stage 5 is a recent development, and nobody even hit Stage 2 until the Industrial Revolution began.

What you are describing above is actually exactly what one would expect to see happen in Stage 1 countries. The HRE had high CBR and TFR, with high CBR and low LE due to things like famine, plague, and warfare. Contrast that with two of the requisites for a Stage 5 country being that it has a naturally low death rate and a higher life expectancy.

But I digress. Just forget I brought it up.
You use an awful lot of TLAs, mate.
 
According to reports, Zelensky during his stay in the US will also present some sort of Victory Plan to Biden. I'm unsure if details have leaked out yet.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is set to present a "plan for victory" in the country's war with Russia to President Joe Biden during this week's visit to the US.

Zelensky also intends to present the plan to Congress and the two candidates in the US presidential election: Democrat Kamala Harris and Republican Donald Trump.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y30244467o