he was defending Moyes with the usual 'the players should be ashamed of themselves' line. Wheras he would be the first to call out the staff/training/tactics of that setup
Roy Keane - 10 years on
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he was defending Moyes with the usual 'the players should be ashamed of themselves' line. Wheras he would be the first to call out the staff/training/tactics of that setup
The complete midfielder. Anyone questioning his footballing ability seriously needs to question their own football understanding & knowledge.
The greatest midfielder Manchester United Football Club have ever had. It is that simple.
The greatest midfielder Manchester United Football Club have ever had. It is that simple.
He's one of the best footballers England has ever seen and up there with the best that has ever played for Manchester United. Best captain for United I would say too. Outstanding midfielder and exceptional leader. Gerrard never had a patch on him.
Not to sully the thread but can the ones (who clearly love Keane) catch a grip when it comes to criticising others who may acknowledge that Keane's discourse does paint him negatively? You can acknowledge his greatness on the pitch, while acknowledging that some of his actions and words have been poorly chosen to downright disgusting.
Not to sully the thread but can the ones (who clearly love Keane) catch a grip when it comes to criticising others who may acknowledge that Keane's discourse does paint him negatively? You can acknowledge his greatness on the pitch, while acknowledging that some of his actions and words have been poorly chosen to downright disgusting.
One of them, that's for sure. To be honest, I wouldn't know who to pick as the greatest.
Wasn't he, along with Gaz, saying that we needed to give Moyes more time? Iirc seem to remember it being pretty late into Moyes' tenure, well past the point most of us had already given up on him.
Yeah, both were wrong on that one. I could see giving him more time if there was the prospect for improvement, but there wasn't. Should have been sacked earlier, if anything.
It's a crying shame that his post United reputation has taken a knock with some due mainly to his fallout with Ferguson, whose elevation to the sainthood has been so complete that anyone who has anything negative to say about him is automatically seen as some sort of blasphemous heretic! Keane has pointed out a few home truths about the bloke, drawing unwelcome attention to the ridiculous dalliance with that bloody racehorse for example, so he must obviously be some kind of ungrateful nutter.
Stuart Pearce (and Brian Clough), from whom he learnt it.
This is the way I feel about it. Keane made valid points regarding Ferguson, but obviously Fergie was the only winner in that debate to people on here.
My hero growing up. Was devastated when he left. Great captain, great leader and such a great player. Still can't get my head around those who just say he was a hard tackling defensive midfielder, it's actually laughable when people say that's all he was.
Disappointed how things ended and the few things that come out from time to time but when he played, that's what we loved about him, his honesty. In the modern game, every time a camera is put in front of a player or coach, we see straight through them and call for honesty and passion and as soon as Roy Keane give us that, he is criticised. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Absolutely love the guy.
Disappointed how things ended and the few things that come out from time to time but when he played, that's what we loved about him, his honesty. In the modern game, every time a camera is put in front of a player or coach, we see straight through them and call for honesty and passion and as soon as Roy Keane give us that, he is criticised. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Absolutely love the guy.
Robson in his pomp maybe, or Charlton if you consider him primarily as a midfielder. Edwards, too, but hard to categorise him. Keane is the best midfielder this club has had in my lifetime. Scholes is second to me, but it's close.
I don't think he was defending Moyes per se. Kean the player, would definitely have let Moyes know if he thought Moyes as the up to standard but what he was referring to was the players, in Moyes' year, losing hope and not giving it 110%.
Keanu, even if he never agreed with the manager, if he was sent out their, would always give it 110%. He wouldn't need motivation for that, which it seemed, during Moyes' time, some players did. That's just my opinion anyway.
On topic, Keane. Absolute legend. As mentioned above, would pay a record fee to get another Keane in.
Yep that Ashley Young "rant" was brilliant. Needs to take a long look at himself.
I still think his punditry when nani got sent off against Real Madrid was petty point scoring against Ferguson. Wound me up at the time.
Unbelievable player though.
Unbelievable player though.
As a football fan it was sad to see the way his united time ended. One of the best on field leaders you'll see, somebody you'd be glad to have on your side. Find his punditry enjoyable as he's not afraid to speak his mind in such a brutally honest fashion. Thought it was great how he and Scholes called out Ashley Young a couple of weeks ago.
Beast of a player, nutter as a man..
He always had the desire to win long before he played football in England.
Wow. Laughable most of the comments in here. 90% dubliners no doubt, but there's bias and blinded. Best midfielder Utd have ever had? Learn some history.
Definitely debatable. It's between him Scholes and Robson.
Name three better.
Shame he went on and criticised other players (famous unaired interview), when in reality it was him who wasn't third of a player he used to be at that point in time.
If he was selfaware about being not good enough anymore he could've ended his career with United and that's something I really feel sorry about, always though his last official match would be played in United shirt.
Brilliant player in his pomp!
If he was selfaware about being not good enough anymore he could've ended his career with United and that's something I really feel sorry about, always though his last official match would be played in United shirt.
Brilliant player in his pomp!
Look everybody has their own opinion and favourites but to say he's the best ever is naive and blatant bias.
I'm not getting into favoured positions, or most played at either, but these are all midfielders who were better in my opinion:
Edwards
Charlton
Best
Robson
Scholes
Obviously if we are talking driving, tough tackling central midfielders who captained Utd, those aren't all in the same category, but that wasn't what wS claimed.
Robson and Scholes, I'll give you that. It's opinion. But Edwards is very hard to judge, Charlton, undeniably great, wasn't the same type of player. He could play second striker, or in the midfield, but definitely not box-to-box. Scholes and Edwards are the only two from that list who did a comparable job (Scholes' best performances for us was as a deep-lying playmaker though, or playing off the striker in his early days).
Best was an attacking winger, can't be in the same list.
Fair play. Midfielders are hard to pin down for sure. I was never a fan of Keane as good a job as he did for us, I hold Rooney in exactly the same regard, but I class all 5 of those as midfielders, therefore Keane is 6th on my list of all time Utd great midfielders. Opinion.Most influential midfielder of the last 20 years for sure
I'll agree
Absolute machine & midfield maestro. Its long been championed, but when you strip back all the hurt that Keano has spent the last ten years trying to convince the world that he's "over" & put down his media persona to that of a scorned lover, to see Roy Keane for what he is/was, the Juve semi in '99 sums him up.
He put so much effort and fight into his own career. He's a perfectionist, which is why Saipan happened and most likely why he might never be a good manager. He expects players to emulate his playing days and, whereas us mortals understand why this isn't possible, Keano can't.
He wear a magic hat!
He put so much effort and fight into his own career. He's a perfectionist, which is why Saipan happened and most likely why he might never be a good manager. He expects players to emulate his playing days and, whereas us mortals understand why this isn't possible, Keano can't.
He wear a magic hat!
Charlton an Best in my eyes are attackers.
Id argue you dont learn it. Its already there. Probably had a major part in honing it.
He defended Moyes as well and people forget that.
Keane's Modus Operandi is often, it appears, to take note of what most other people are saying and to disagree with them. His judgement gets called into question on that basis as much of it seems to be driven by a desire to appear outspoken, controversial, a warped sense of being his own man and an anger fuelled chip on his shoulder the size of a small nation. His comments re the Shaw tackle being "brilliant" are a classic example of this. I'd also disagree re the loyalties of Nev and Scholes as well - Scholes in particular has been slating the club and the manager and their performances of late.
Keane's got anger management issues and that's as plain as fecking day. It affects his judgement badly and his stature as a player was diminished by it.
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Tbf, I'd say it's Xavi but after that it would be Keane for me and then probably Davids. The likes of Scholes, Pirlo etc deserve a shout as well.
Edwards.....Did you see him play? 99.9999% certain you didn't and haven't a clue what he was like
Charlton.....Did you see him play?
Best.....Wasn't a midfielder
That leaves Robson and Scholes and we can sit here all night debating about who is the better of the three
we're talking about at United! Come on son...read the thread
Oh my mistake there
. Only Scholes could rival his influence at United for the past 2 decades and you'd have to give it to Keane though, for his sheer consistency and longer peak. Just speaks to the quality of Keane, that one could consider him in the conversation for the most influential midfielder in the footballing word, for the past twenty years or so.Yeah, I don't know why he said it was a good tackle when it clearly wasn't.
He said it was a good tackle and Shaw was just very unlucky
Yep.
Can you imagine? This is a guy who thought SAF had let standards slip...
When you put it like that... Jesus Christ
I love Keane!!
Him, Sparky, Sharpy, Kan Kan, Becks are man but, absolutely brilliant to see an ex United man on the coaching staff at the euros.
Him, Sparky, Sharpy, Kan Kan, Becks are man but, absolutely brilliant to see an ex United man on the coaching staff at the euros.
That isn't the whole picture by any stretch. Keane's opinions on many subjects (not just on SAF) aren't taken very seriously because he's wilfully controversial to the point of dishonesty; there's a reason why he's one of the few ex-pros who's employed as a pundit for more than just being a 'big name'.