It might be a good time to clear out some dead wood as well, who're at the club for sentimental reasons. Also, scrap the retarded uber-super-duper-rotation policy.
Rooney exit to spark major spending?
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Tbh where will the money come from?
Not happening anytime soon mate, in the midst of 'Roomania' (not Romania in case some smart cnut starts that) Fergie has said there will be 'changes' for the Bursaspor game, so expect half a new team from the weekend and then another 6 or 7 changes for Stoke.
Must say all this rotation stuff is a bit shit now.
If there ever was a time to throw silly money around for players, it's now for several reasons.
1) To replace Rooney and Giggs, Scholes, van der Sar
2) To show that we can spend when we want to
3) To give fans a lift and show us that United can still bring in the best around.
1) To replace Rooney and Giggs, Scholes, van der Sar
2) To show that we can spend when we want to
3) To give fans a lift and show us that United can still bring in the best around.
The 164 million cash reserves in the bank plus the Rooney sale money id assume.
We don't have a core of players who get a long run in the team, and this is killing us.
I agree, id like nothing more right now than for Fergie to pick what he considers his best 11 players stick em in a system and stick with it for a month at least, all this chopping and chancing on a game to game basis isnt doing us any good, never has, and i must say im amazed hes still persisting with it.
Aguero is all we'll need.
FAO all those saying that we've got no money, consider my post to ralphie yesterday...
Believe it or not (most of you wont) but there is already plenty of money there to be spent and it makes solid business sense to spend it wisely with healthy investment in the playing squad. Do not let our transfer activity over the last twelve months fool you; United are far from being skint.
ciderman said:
ralphie said:
ciderman said:
Believe it or not (most of you wont) but there is already plenty of money there to be spent and it makes solid business sense to spend it wisely with healthy investment in the playing squad. Do not let our transfer activity over the last twelve months fool you; United are far from being skint.
I don't really understand all these calls for a new goalkeeper, I don't think Tomasz Kuszczak has ever really let us down, and has performed brilliantly in some games he has played.
Now we know why the Glazers did not take the draw down they could have taken!!?
164 mill in the bank.
The financial results just out and people still think we have no money?
I'd hate to run a business or live with some of the feckers on here!!
164 mill in the bank.
The financial results just out and people still think we have no money?
I'd hate to run a business or live with some of the feckers on here!!
there would be more without the need to service PIK's. That's the whole fecking point. Every pence that goes to PIK's and interest charges is a pence not used to make united a better football club.
Rooney doesnt change our transfer needs much imo, we were going to need a Goalie and Centre Mid regardless, Buffon and Rodwell would be nice 
Rooneys replacement doesnt neccessarily need to be a striker just a quality attacker, so midfield, wing or forward as long as they've got goals in them and bring a bit of swagger and fear factor with them - i'd love me some Kaka
and just for me get Ruud back on a 6 month loan, a far bigger legend than Roo will ever be and i'd forget him in an instant to see the horse-faced assassin back on our turf even if his powers have waned Ruuuuuuuuud
Rooneys replacement doesnt neccessarily need to be a striker just a quality attacker, so midfield, wing or forward as long as they've got goals in them and bring a bit of swagger and fear factor with them - i'd love me some Kaka
and just for me get Ruud back on a 6 month loan, a far bigger legend than Roo will ever be and i'd forget him in an instant to see the horse-faced assassin back on our turf even if his powers have waned Ruuuuuuuuud
I'm simply showing that we have plenty of money to spend; i'm not suggesting that there isn't more money in some parallel universe; i prefer to analyse only the reality that we occupy.
Glazres value cash over any player exchanges.
Sir Alex said a few months back we might have to spend big to replace scholes, Giggs etc....so I think that still stands. Unless we promote from within. It'll be interesting but it won't be until the summer
Not so much 'cash' as 'profit' i'd say, but yeah, you're basically right, which is why they'll leave the targetting of players to the manager and then simply reap the benefits further down the line.
Wouldn't mind having a bit of the Sneijder pie, and if sources are correct, we could be getting a bit of the Sanchez one as well. That could well be 50 million squid well spent and without destroying our cash reserves.
I wish I shared your optimism mate, but I think the league will be a lost cause this year.
Ah feck off, that's nonsense really. Even if Rooney goes we need 3 very good players tops. It's still a good squad
And won't get.
He's no more than a mid-table keeper, to be honest. Great no. 2, not a good enough no. 1
Your title says it all.
We'll just follow the Ronaldo blueprint...Sign Rodallega, give Owen a new contract, poach another set of 16 year old's from foreign academies, ask the rest of the squad to step up, and Bob's your uncle.
Meanwhile, the cash gets ploughed into the interest payments and we continue to dress it all up as a moral crusade to bring "value for money" back to the transfer market.
I would add loads of smirks and sarcastic smilies but I somehow find it more likely than actually replacing quality with quality, wonder why that could be? It's not as if we've ever done anything like that before is it?
Meanwhile, the cash gets ploughed into the interest payments and we continue to dress it all up as a moral crusade to bring "value for money" back to the transfer market.
I would add loads of smirks and sarcastic smilies but I somehow find it more likely than actually replacing quality with quality, wonder why that could be? It's not as if we've ever done anything like that before is it?
Whether we start in Jan, or its all in the summer, we need to spend big. Not a want but a need. We did well considering what we spent, to move on after Ronaldo but we didnt reach the same level. We are in some ways still recovering from losing him and now to lose Rooney too? On the back of needing to replace several key players in the next year, Scholes, Giggs, VDS, Neville to some extent and the fact that with his injury Valencia is likely to take a season or two to get back to his best, even when he is fit to return.
If we still dont spend big this summer then that will show how fecked we are financially. Because we could very well be putting our champions league qualification money at risk for the next season. And surely the owners will do anything they can to make sure we always make that money.
If we still dont spend big this summer then that will show how fecked we are financially. Because we could very well be putting our champions league qualification money at risk for the next season. And surely the owners will do anything they can to make sure we always make that money.
Agreed.
He's exactly what we need to replace Rooney, our ageing stars and our shite defence.
We probably do need to spend big now, and I think we will as well.
Sneijder is my main muppet target. If we want a striker as well then Benzema is the "realistic" target I rate highest. Based on ability that is, I hear he is a cnut.
A new goalkeeper will probably have to wait. Attacking options in midfield is the priority IMO.
Sneijder is my main muppet target. If we want a striker as well then Benzema is the "realistic" target I rate highest. Based on ability that is, I hear he is a cnut.
A new goalkeeper will probably have to wait. Attacking options in midfield is the priority IMO.
Yes, but that time there were Real Madrid... and that team made prices that summer. Like Fergie said - too high.
It's going to be a little bit different now.
In what sense? We still have sky-high prices being set, the fact we'll have another windfall in our accounts will no doubt see other club's take the piss in their valuation's of player's we want.
Then there is the ridiculous wage bar being set by Shitty and Madrid which will make acquiring the quality we need even more difficult that 18 months ago I'd suggest.
Yes, we still have those prices very high, but you have to agree that it was much different in the summer of 2009. That's football, it has changed a lot and sky-high prices will be present.
I can't feel today's football more than it was earlier.
We will spend big in the near future even if rooney were to stay. The manager said taht this will happen when the time is right. The right time will be when VDS giggs and scholes are gone.
When they leave we will sign a goalkeeper and 2 midfielders. If rooney leaves then a forward will also come in.
I refuse to believe that a club that spends 25 million on smalling hernandez and bebe has no money.
When they leave we will sign a goalkeeper and 2 midfielders. If rooney leaves then a forward will also come in.
I refuse to believe that a club that spends 25 million on smalling hernandez and bebe has no money.
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IF Rooney does go, this gives the club a boot up the ass, to bring in a muppet player or 2, as much for merchandizing purposes as well as hopefully their playing ability!
I personally believe this will be VDS's last season as 1st team regular. I think we will bring in another keeper to fight with PIG for that spot. I haven't seen enough of De Gea, or the Ajax keeper or the young Danish keeper, so i cant say who i'd prefer. But, they are all the right age range, all big and commanding. Short of buying Buffon, id be happy with one of those 3.
RB, i think we'll be ok with Rafa long term. Just hope he's over his injury proneness spells. LB is fine, though Evra has been a bit shaky at times.
CB is a worry. Im not convinced Ferdinand will last much longer due to injuries. Time will tell. Vidic has been hit and miss, Evans has been poor, Smalling looks like an accident waiting to happen. That being said, I think we have enough cover in those positions for another season.
Midfield. In my opinion we badly need a left sided player. Bale is the one i'd go for. He is now CONSISTENTLY playing to the levels that makes him attractive to us. I daresay we'd have to part with 30m + a player to nab him though.
CM is fine in terms of getting the ball back, but we lack a goal-scoring threat with Scholes coming to the end of his time. I'd do whatever it takes to bring in Muller. He's really got it all and showed that he has the nerve for the big occasion with his stint at the world cup. If we dont get him now, you can be sure Chelsea, City, Madrid or Barca WILL in a year or 2.
Up front, id like to compliment Berbatov with someone who fights like Tevez, so maybe Aguero?
So, you're probably talking an outlay in transfer fees of 80-100 million (wages not included)
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IF Rooney does go, this gives the club a boot up the ass, to bring in a muppet player or 2, as much for merchandizing purposes as well as hopefully their playing ability!
I personally believe this will be VDS's last season as 1st team regular. I think we will bring in another keeper to fight with PIG for that spot. I haven't seen enough of De Gea, or the Ajax keeper or the young Danish keeper, so i cant say who i'd prefer. But, they are all the right age range, all big and commanding. Short of buying Buffon, id be happy with one of those 3.
RB, i think we'll be ok with Rafa long term. Just hope he's over his injury proneness spells. LB is fine, though Evra has been a bit shaky at times.
CB is a worry. Im not convinced Ferdinand will last much longer due to injuries. Time will tell. Vidic has been hit and miss, Evans has been poor, Smalling looks like an accident waiting to happen. That being said, I think we have enough cover in those positions for another season.
Midfield. In my opinion we badly need a left sided player. Bale is the one i'd go for. He is now CONSISTENTLY playing to the levels that makes him attractive to us. I daresay we'd have to part with 30m + a player to nab him though.
CM is fine in terms of getting the ball back, but we lack a goal-scoring threat with Scholes coming to the end of his time. I'd do whatever it takes to bring in Muller. He's really got it all and showed that he has the nerve for the big occasion with his stint at the world cup. If we dont get him now, you can be sure Chelsea, City, Madrid or Barca WILL in a year or 2.
Up front, id like to compliment Berbatov with someone who fights like Tevez, so maybe Aguero?
So, you're probably talking an outlay in transfer fees of 80-100 million (wages not included)
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If we did acquire Lloris, Kaka, Rodwell and Benzema between now and the beginning of next season .... and Rooney goes ... would you all be happy?
no, i want Muller not Kaka
I like Kaka, realy took to him with some of his world cup performances. I think he is a 'United' type player and think he and Berbatov would gel really well and be on the same wavelength. He is a class class player but I think he is at the wrong club. I would happily want SAf to build a team around him. It could be great.
Where would he play? You say you want Aguero and Bale, which would leave no room for him, considering he either plays wide or off the striker.
Kaka and Muller don't even play the same game, ones a playmaker and ones a (versatile) forward.
Adler, Rodwell, Modric and Dzeko would do fine lolz. Players from the Bundesliga are pretty much ready made for the Premiership, alot moreso than a hell of a lot more so than anywhere else.
4231(or 442 depending)
Adler/Kusz
Rafael/Brown
Vidic/Smalling
Rio/Evans
Evra/Fabio
Rodwell/Fletcher
Carrick/Anderson
Modric/Nani
Berbatov/Modric
Valencia/Nani
Dzeko/Hernandez
Then you have other backup options obviously like O'Shea, Hargreaves(2nd choice as RB if he ever got legit fit), Park and a few of the youngsters who CAN step it up consistently.
I don't know who I've forgotten, nor do I care, as this is just pure fun really.
Adler, Rodwell, Modric and Dzeko would do fine lolz. Players from the Bundesliga are pretty much ready made for the Premiership, alot moreso than a hell of a lot more so than anywhere else.
4231(or 442 depending)
Adler/Kusz
Rafael/Brown
Vidic/Smalling
Rio/Evans
Evra/Fabio
Rodwell/Fletcher
Carrick/Anderson
Modric/Nani
Berbatov/Modric
Valencia/Nani
Dzeko/Hernandez
Then you have other backup options obviously like O'Shea, Hargreaves(2nd choice as RB if he ever got legit fit), Park and a few of the youngsters who CAN step it up consistently.
I don't know who I've forgotten, nor do I care, as this is just pure fun really.
We aren't going to get the chance at getting the likes of Robben or Sneijder at bargain prices again, outside of kaka/ibra/ronaldo, the value was the same as always.
Rodwell, benzema, playmaker,
@ this thread. Muppet paradise.