Ronaldo | Refused to come on as sub, left OT | Axed from squad for Chelsea & fined 2 weeks wages

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Bobski said:
Just for fun, I would kind of love it if Ronaldo picks up some minor issue, forcing him to miss the WC in which Messi wins player of the tournament while leading Argentina to the trophy after scoring about 15 CL goals in the group stages in the lead up.
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He would
Red_toad said:
I disagree, he’d have been a useful addition today. Shame he let the club, his team mates, the manager, the fans and himself down by his behaviour.
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Yeah. He would have come on for Rashford maybe. Ronaldo has scored 700 club goals and scored some incredible goals last season so he is not totally finished. The point is that the way the team plays, he can only manage few minutes or against weak teams. But Ronaldo being Ronaldo won't accept that.so should leave. To be honest, martial injury kept him in the team.

But leaving the stadium was a big disrespect to his teammates, club and manager on a night where we played maybe our best game
 
Looking back at his stats.
Goal conversion 6%
Shot accuracy 26%

Rashford even though his stats aren't those of a top striker his goal conversion is more than 3 times higher and his short accuracy is 2.5 times higher. Rashford is not the answer up front but it's a damn sight better answer than current day Ronaldo.
 
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alexthelion said:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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In this system, the CF needs to press and hold up play to bring in the wingers and runners, he also needs move in ways to take out opposition defenders creating spaces for teammates.you don't necessarily need to be the top scorer. Ronaldo won't do that! ( He would want to be the scorer).Martial is the best in that position that we have.( Similar to Benzema). Ronaldo can't play RW because he lacks the energy to gsllop down the wings and bring other players in. The only way Ronaldo would have fit in is if we want to play with 2 strikers but that would mean we will lose dominance in midfield. So just like Harry Maguire, Ronaldo just won't fit
 
Bobski said:
Just for fun, I would kind of love it if Ronaldo picks up some minor issue, forcing him to miss the WC in which Messi wins player of the tournament while leading Argentina to the trophy after scoring about 15 CL goals in the group stages in the lead up.
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Or both reach the final and messi scores a hattrick in injury time to win it 3-2 while ronaldo does feck all apart from missing a few sitters or a missed pen.
 
VidaRed said:
Or both reach the final and messi scores a hattrick in injury time to win it 3-2 while ronaldo does feck all apart from missing a few sitters or a missed pen.
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Or Ronaldo scores the winning own goal trying to clear Messi's into his own net
 
Of course they'd like to see him leave in January, but how?

He won't lower his wages, and he's somehow made himself less attractive to prospective clubs that had already rejected him last summer. Terrible situation entirely of his own making. Maybe now that he's realized he's no longer going to get his way in this club, he might reconsider lowering his wages, but at this point it'd have to be a drastic cut to even get one club interested in taking him on, and I don't think it'll be a club with big aspirations either, but more looking to make a media splash and sell some jerseys. That's where he's at now. His best bet would be the MLS and move on.

I also think it's ridiculous the amounts of excuses that's been made for him, or to act like this is in any way out of character. He's an egomaniac, always has been. People praised him for his 'coaching' at the Euro 2016 final when it was just a man starved for attention, looking to be on camera any way possible for the biggest international game of his life that he could no longer participate in. This latest thing is another way to have the attention around him instead of the best United performance & win in some time accomplished without him. Throughout his career, he has shown that what's happening to him right now is fully in line with who he is in a person. This isn't a crisis moment for him that's making him act out of character, that's just who he is.

The sooner he's gone, the better for United, but I just don't see how it happens without a MLS club coming in.
 
Sayros said:
Of course they'd like to see him leave in January, but how?

He won't lower his wages, and he's somehow made himself less attractive to prospective clubs that had already rejected him last summer. Terrible situation entirely of his own making. Maybe now that he's realized he's no longer going to get his way in this club, he might reconsider lowering his wages, but at this point it'd have to be a drastic cut to even get one club interested in taking him on, and I don't think it'll be a club with big aspirations either, but more looking to make a media splash and sell some jerseys. That's where he's at now. His best bet would be the MLS and move on.

I also think it's ridiculous the amounts of excuses that's been made for him, or to act like this is in any way out of character. He's an egomaniac, always has been. People praised him for his 'coaching' at the Euro 2016 final when it was just a man starved for attention, looking to be on camera any way possible for the biggest international game of his life that he could no longer participate in. This latest thing is another way to have the attention around him instead of the best United performance & win in some time accomplished without him. Throughout his career, he has shown that what's happening to him right now is fully in line with who he is in a person. This isn't a crisis moment for him that's making him act out of character, that's just who he is.

The sooner he's gone, the better for United, but I just don't see how it happens without a MLS club coming in.
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Agree.

No top club would be daft enough to take him, even on reduced wages. He can barely move now and even his finishing, the only thing his fans keep praising is actually dog shit. Most of the time he simply can't even make the shot because he's too slow and too weak now. Even if he somehow manages to most of those are way off the target. Sometime ridiculously.

Worse thing is this narcissistic fecker is still absolutely delusional about himself. In his mind he's always the best player on earth. People who keep talking about him being a bench option for United simply don't understand this guy. He absolutely doesn't want to be a bench option. He did this whole drama and being this disruptive, this noisy only to force United to get rid of him. Like to pay him the rest of his contract so he can be a free transfer. That's why the fecker doesn't even bother to apologise.

The top hierarchy of United on the other hand still wants to profit from and to maximize his commercial values. From their perspective it'd be pretty stupid to pay him the rest of his contract and get nothing in return.

The whole situation is simply a mess and my bet is everyone will be stuck in this shit until the very end of his contract. Unless the fecker decides to buy the rest of his contract and leaves. Or United has enough of this and decides to let him walk on a free. But we don't even know if he'd agree on that or not.
 
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I understand what ETH is trying to do but I don't think he has the depth to see this through. He'll have to let him play eventually if we suffer more injuries. Either that or get a forward in January but who?
 
"Just play him" misses the point completely. That's not even an issue. He's already playing a lot. Problem is his constant protesting being used as a squad option. He doesn't just want to start he also wants to finish games and not in the same way your average players want it, he actively tantrums.
 
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Strelok said:
Agree.

No top club would be daft enough to take him, even on reduced wages. He can barely move now and even his finishing, the only thing his fans keep praising is actually dog shit. Most of the time he simply can't even make the shot because he's too slow and too weak now. Even if he somehow manages to most of those are way off the target. Sometime ridiculously.

Worse thing is this narcissistic fecker is still absolutely delusional about himself. In his mind he's always the best player on earth. People who keep talking about him being a bench option for United simply don't understand this guy. He absolutely doesn't want to be a bench option. He did this whole drama and being this disruptive, this noisy only to force United to get rid of him. Like to pay him the rest of his contract so he can be a free transfer. That's why the fecker doesn't even bother to apologise.

The top hierarchy of United on the other hand still wants to profit from and to maximize his commercial values. From their perspective it'd be pretty stupid to pay him the rest of his contract and get nothing in return.

The whole situation is simply a mess and my bet is everyone will be stuck in this shit until the very end of his contract. Unless the fecker decides to buy the rest of his contract and leaves.
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Sayros said:
Of course they'd like to see him leave in January, but how?

He won't lower his wages, and he's somehow made himself less attractive to prospective clubs that had already rejected him last summer. Terrible situation entirely of his own making. Maybe now that he's realized he's no longer going to get his way in this club, he might reconsider lowering his wages, but at this point it'd have to be a drastic cut to even get one club interested in taking him on, and I don't think it'll be a club with big aspirations either, but more looking to make a media splash and sell some jerseys. That's where he's at now. His best bet would be the MLS and move on.

I also think it's ridiculous the amounts of excuses that's been made for him, or to act like this is in any way out of character. He's an egomaniac, always has been. People praised him for his 'coaching' at the Euro 2016 final when it was just a man starved for attention, looking to be on camera any way possible for the biggest international game of his life that he could no longer participate in. This latest thing is another way to have the attention around him instead of the best United performance & win in some time accomplished without him. Throughout his career, he has shown that what's happening to him right now is fully in line with who he is in a person. This isn't a crisis moment for him that's making him act out of character, that's just who he is.

The sooner he's gone, the better for United, but I just don't see how it happens without a MLS club coming in.
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His mate Keane said he's a billionaire he doesn't need the money.
 
It’s not that far away in our memory how Rashford made the breakthrough. Martial was injured. We had no natural forward available. LVG promoted Rashford and he just did it!
It’s time for ETH to do the similar. Ronaldo is not the answer no matter what. The scene has been set up well for the youngsters.
 
The thing about narcissists is that they're always going to make sure everything is about them. Ronaldo wants to play every minute of every game, even if the team suffers because of it. If he doesn't get that, he's going to make a big show and publicly throw a tantrum to keep the attention on himself.

Give him two options in January: a transfer away with no compensation for reduced wages, or he can train with the reserves and see how many big clubs are interested in the summer when he hasn't played a competitive match in 6 months.
 
Ronaldo cost us a good goal at Everton. He was too immersed in his own petulance to realize he was offside while others worked their butts off. Did it against Newcastle as well. Thinks and plays like it’s just about him.
 
The only kind of club he’s joining in January is one whose season is already effectively over by then and willing to buy into the circus to remain on the back pages until the summer. Yo, Liverpool, we got something for you.
 

I think a club in the CL could use him in that competition. He is Mr Champions League after all. He would have to accept lowering his wages and not starting.
 
Adisa said:

I think a club in the CL could use him in that competition. He is Mr Champions League after all. He would have to accept lowering his wages and not starting.
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Dinamo Zagreb it is!
 
He should go out to the US if he wants to keep playing. They will stroke his ego and he won't have to deal with the reality that he is well past it at the top level in the most competitive league in the world. Teams know that all they have to do is make life hard for Ronaldo and he will be anonymous and because the whole team is dysfunctional with him up top it will be an easy game.
 
DutchCruijff said:
I don't get how Sancho repeatedly starts - meaning we shift Rashford as a CF where he's poor - and Ronaldo is repeatedly benched after one anonymous game.

Ronaldo, once he suffers his punishment, needs to start from now on in till Martial comes back.
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Because the pressing organisation would be a huge different with or without Ronaldo, Ronaldo may willing to press often, but his body cannot followed his thinking this season, especially pressing in big game
Also, I don't think he is able to play 2 games within 1 week.
That is why Sancho is still repeatedly started when he is in poor form. Our bench are lack and weak in this season.
 
Adisa said:

I think a club in the CL could use him in that competition. He is Mr Champions League after all. He would have to accept lowering his wages and not starting.
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He is still hard to find a new CL club no matter he agrees to take a 50% pay cut.
There is only one hope that PSG want him to join with Messi to publicize themselves.
 
His agent scampering around Europe looking for a CL club only to have the door closed in his face by every one would make me smile.
 
Shane88 said:
His agent scampering around Europe looking for a CL club only to have the door closed in his face by every one would make me smile.
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Isn't that exactly what happened in the summer already?
 
We have to hope he has a good World Cup, maybe that sparks some interest and we can do a loan for the remainder of his contract.
 
Cristiano is one of those rare footballers that make the history books. I don't think it would be too hard for ETH not to provoke him by ordering him to warm up for half the game only to ridicule him in the final minute by asking him to come in. Also against City, 4-0 down and not letting him in shows that ETH is not treating him respectfully. That said, Ronaldo is also at fault with his reaction but yes some players are indeed entitled to have demands. 5 Ballon d'or, record top scorer at club and international level, the only Ballon d’or winner from the PL in my lifetime, and countless individual records does create a rightful sense of entitlement. Let alone the fact that it's in this United forward line that he demands some play time and not City.

Cristiano is a big part of our history and as a Utd fan I adore the man. The thing that baffles me about this whole saga is why didn’t they just let Ronaldo leave in the summer when he wanted??

I still think Cristiano can score goals for this team, especially given the current forward line which is struggling bigtime to make an impact. Defenders are snuffing them out too easily. Rashford and Sancho are still far from the mark of what they should be. Martial is always injured. I think the best utilisation for Cristiano would be to say to him we are going to play pressing football by default and you don't have the legs to do that anymore but we need you for a very dangerous plan B where when we are struggling to break a team down we completely switch to a long ball counter attack style of play with you getting on the end of balls against tired defenders. Cristiano would have scored the chances Rashford squandered against Newcastle and Chelsea.
 
joedirt87 said:
We have to hope he has a good World Cup, maybe that sparks some interest and we can do a loan for the remainder of his contract.
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I think he's going to be a total nightmare for Portugal in the World Cup.

He'll know he needs a good tournament to attract any new potential clubs so he'll be even more selfish than he normally is. He's going to be shooting at goal whenever he gets within about 40 yards of the net, forget passing or crossing or anything like that.
 
Sayros said:
Of course they'd like to see him leave in January, but how?

He won't lower his wages, and he's somehow made himself less attractive to prospective clubs that had already rejected him last summer. Terrible situation entirely of his own making. Maybe now that he's realized he's no longer going to get his way in this club, he might reconsider lowering his wages, but at this point it'd have to be a drastic cut to even get one club interested in taking him on, and I don't think it'll be a club with big aspirations either, but more looking to make a media splash and sell some jerseys. That's where he's at now. His best bet would be the MLS and move on.

I also think it's ridiculous the amounts of excuses that's been made for him, or to act like this is in any way out of character. He's an egomaniac, always has been. People praised him for his 'coaching' at the Euro 2016 final when it was just a man starved for attention, looking to be on camera any way possible for the biggest international game of his life that he could no longer participate in. This latest thing is another way to have the attention around him instead of the best United performance & win in some time accomplished without him. Throughout his career, he has shown that what's happening to him right now is fully in line with who he is in a person. This isn't a crisis moment for him that's making him act out of character, that's just who he is.

The sooner he's gone, the better for United, but I just don't see how it happens without a MLS club coming in.
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I suspect MLS might be a problem for him with his "alleged rape" case which can easily be opened up again.

Tower of Babel said:
Cristiano is one of those rare footballers that make the history books. I don't think it would be too hard for ETH not to provoke him by ordering him to warm up for half the game only to ridicule him in the final minute by asking him to come in. Also against City, 4-0 down and not letting him in shows that ETH is not treating him respectfully. That said, Ronaldo is also at fault with his reaction but yes some players are indeed entitled to have demands. 5 Ballon d'or, record top scorer at club and international level, the only Ballon d’or winner from the PL in my lifetime, and countless individual records does create a rightful sense of entitlement. Let alone the fact that it's in this United forward line that he demands some play time and not City.

Cristiano is a big part of our history and as a Utd fan I adore the man. The thing that baffles me about this whole saga is why didn’t they just let Ronaldo leave in the summer when he wanted??

I still think Cristiano can score goals for this team, especially given the current forward line which is struggling bigtime to make an impact. Defenders are snuffing them out too easily. Rashford and Sancho are still far from the mark of what they should be. Martial is always injured. I think the best utilisation for Cristiano would be to say to him we are going to play pressing football by default and you don't have the legs to do that anymore but we need you for a very dangerous plan B where when we are struggling to break a team down we completely switch to a long ball counter attack style of play with you getting on the end of balls against tired defenders. Cristiano would have scored the chances Rashford squandered against Newcastle and Chelsea.
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Reports suggest they did but there were simply no takers and don't be surprised if there aren't any in January too. In the summer, once the contract ends, I suspect he will still find it difficult to find a big club which would take him on those wages and even if he drops the wage demands significantly, starts him regularly unless it is a club like Sporting.
 
Tower of Babel said:
Cristiano is one of those rare footballers that make the history books. I don't think it would be too hard for ETH not to provoke him by ordering him to warm up for half the game only to ridicule him in the final minute by asking him to come in. Also against City, 4-0 down and not letting him in shows that ETH is not treating him respectfully. That said, Ronaldo is also at fault with his reaction but yes some players are indeed entitled to have demands. 5 Ballon d'or, record top scorer at club and international level, the only Ballon d’or winner from the PL in my lifetime, and countless individual records does create a rightful sense of entitlement. Let alone the fact that it's in this United forward line that he demands some play time and not City.

Cristiano is a big part of our history and as a Utd fan I adore the man. The thing that baffles me about this whole saga is why didn’t they just let Ronaldo leave in the summer when he wanted??

I still think Cristiano can score goals for this team, especially given the current forward line which is struggling bigtime to make an impact. Defenders are snuffing them out too easily. Rashford and Sancho are still far from the mark of what they should be. Martial is always injured. I think the best utilisation for Cristiano would be to say to him we are going to play pressing football by default and you don't have the legs to do that anymore but we need you for a very dangerous plan B where when we are struggling to break a team down we completely switch to a long ball counter attack style of play with you getting on the end of balls against tired defenders. Cristiano would have scored the chances Rashford squandered against Newcastle and Chelsea.
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Nobody wanted him, except some team in Saudi Arabia i mean this has been said so may times now and again confirmed by David Ornstein in The Athletic again today
 
Tower of Babel said:
Cristiano is one of those rare footballers that make the history books. I don't think it would be too hard for ETH not to provoke him by ordering him to warm up for half the game only to ridicule him in the final minute by asking him to come in. Also against City, 4-0 down and not letting him in shows that ETH is not treating him respectfully. That said, Ronaldo is also at fault with his reaction but yes some players are indeed entitled to have demands. 5 Ballon d'or, record top scorer at club and international level, the only Ballon d’or winner from the PL in my lifetime, and countless individual records does create a rightful sense of entitlement. Let alone the fact that it's in this United forward line that he demands some play time and not City.

Cristiano is a big part of our history and as a Utd fan I adore the man. The thing that baffles me about this whole saga is why didn’t they just let Ronaldo leave in the summer when he wanted??

I still think Cristiano can score goals for this team, especially given the current forward line which is struggling bigtime to make an impact. Defenders are snuffing them out too easily. Rashford and Sancho are still far from the mark of what they should be. Martial is always injured. I think the best utilisation for Cristiano would be to say to him we are going to play pressing football by default and you don't have the legs to do that anymore but we need you for a very dangerous plan B where when we are struggling to break a team down we completely switch to a long ball counter attack style of play with you getting on the end of balls against tired defenders. Cristiano would have scored the chances Rashford squandered against Newcastle and Chelsea.
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This question always baffles me. As if everyone who asks it was hibernating the whole summer or living in a cave.

His agent offered him to every top tier club in the CL and was politely turned down at every one of them.
 
It's fascinating how hypothetical Ronaldo would put away every single scoring chance our other players have missed while real Ronaldo is on 1 goal from open play all season.
 
Ronaldo couldn't score versus Omonia when the rest of the team were effectively trying to put it on a plate for him.
 
Adisa said:

I think a club in the CL could use him in that competition. He is Mr Champions League after all. He would have to accept lowering his wages and not starting.
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Tell me you dont watch football without telling me you dont watch football
 
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