It hasn't so far this season, why would today have been different?
Ronaldo | Refused to come on as sub, left OT | Axed from squad for Chelsea & fined 2 weeks wages
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It hasn't so far this season, why would today have been different?
You've made a thread saying is Southgate a shit manager, not a shit England manager.
Ok, il retitle the thread. It means nothing though - all the posts are clearly focusing on his England stint.
Jesus I can't believe some of ye are still holding this opinion after everything that's happened. It truly shows where your loyalties really lie.
100% agree.
Checked his stats, he’s certainly scored this season, regardless of your opinion.
Yep it's clear we have a number of fair weather United fans on here who support Ronaldo first and foremost
Well its clear Rashford can't play no.9 and we are thin in attack with Martial always injured. So fully expect him to be back in the squad for next match. He is getting what he deserved already - punishment from club, criticism from manager, frozen in last game/training session, plus 1m fine.
Don't be surprised if ETH does exactly that. He's pragmatic enough. He'll also boot him away once he's got his own CF
He has scored twice, once in the league and once in EL. I'm not sure how his abilities this season have been or could have been invaluable.
It'll be interesting to see the overlap of fans who think Ronaldo should be first choice striker and the fans who will quickly turn on Ten Hag
It's one nice circle.
Play him Thursday.
Firstly because we need to rotate and secondly because it'll dampen down all this noise.
Firstly because we need to rotate and secondly because it'll dampen down all this noise.
Of course I understand he's butt hurt he didn't play, he has pride, he is a legend in the game, one of the best in the history of football.
However, he is blind if he doesn't see the improvement in our play and he is either ignorant, lack of self-awareness or a total narcist if he feels his performances warrant any playing minutes.
He can't disrespect the club, the manager, his teammates and the fans. He must be smarter than that. Just buckle down, support the team, get match fit and get the sharpness back, because if he performs (read: score goals) the striker's position is his. The position is up for grabs really with Martial made of glass and Rashford not performing as well.
However, he is blind if he doesn't see the improvement in our play and he is either ignorant, lack of self-awareness or a total narcist if he feels his performances warrant any playing minutes.
He can't disrespect the club, the manager, his teammates and the fans. He must be smarter than that. Just buckle down, support the team, get match fit and get the sharpness back, because if he performs (read: score goals) the striker's position is his. The position is up for grabs really with Martial made of glass and Rashford not performing as well.
Like someone has already said here imo he did this intentionally. He simply wanted to get out at all cost.
Throughout the summer we've been discussing to death how he'd behave if things didn't go his ways. Most said he'd throw his toys out and in the process would make the life of everyone around so miserable until he get what he wants. It's just the way he is and he has always been. Imo it's a bit naive to think he'd buckle down and behave.
Ronaldo will score a hattrick on Thursday. Thats a given. A chance to prove him again , stop all doubters and show who is the boss.
But that won't change the fact that we should let him go...
But that won't change the fact that we should let him go...
He did it with ole and rangnick also last season.
People in those comments backing Keane through such a massive moment of hypocrisy are unintentionally the clueless fans he's talking about. When his mate was manager he threw everyone but the manager under the bus, now that his mate is a player he's throwing the manager under the bus. Didn't he also accuse SAF of nepotism? The only consistency in his loyalty is how well he knows the person.
He's scored 2 goals in 691 minutes for United (1 of those goals a pen) and no goals in 180 minutes for Portugal.
That's hardly the return from a player you want starting up front for a team with top 4 ambitions. It's not the return you'd want from a player starting up front for a team staving off relegation.
A strange situation. We actually need each other right now. We’re desperate for a striker and if he can get back to last seasons form it would be great. But can’t be having this toxicity. He needs to mature and be the player we need without the petulance.
The biggest issue with Ronaldo isn't his attitude, or his ego-mania, or how everything is polemic.
It's that he's not a very good football player this season.
His performances are not good enough for Manchester United. He'd played about 10 matches and not been really injured.
There should only be an argument to bring him back into the first XI if it will improve the first XI. The only thing he supposedly gives you is finishing, and he's barely scored from open play this entire season.
It's that he's not a very good football player this season.
His performances are not good enough for Manchester United. He'd played about 10 matches and not been really injured.
There should only be an argument to bring him back into the first XI if it will improve the first XI. The only thing he supposedly gives you is finishing, and he's barely scored from open play this entire season.
The reason why there's people supporting inclusion of Ronaldo is because Martial is always injured and Rashford's touch and finishing aren't anywhere near good enough. This notion about playing better without Ronaldo is tenuous, results are up and down and what Rashford is bringing differently to Ronaldo is certainly not goals.
Unfortunately Ronaldo's fitness/form has played himself out of the team. If he gets goals in the home games against Omonia and Newcastle then he's starting (and no doubt scoring as usual) against Spurs.
I understand his frustration, he's watching Rashford waste chance after chance, but he's been doing the same this season as well. At his age, skipping preseason has screwed himself over I reckon. The Ronaldo of last year is better than Rashford, this year's Ronaldo is about the same level - and that would drive him mad (naturally) given the levels he used to produce.
He's clearly not part of our future, neither is Rashford or Martial though. This whole episode just underlines how much we need a striker or two.
Unfortunately Ronaldo's fitness/form has played himself out of the team. If he gets goals in the home games against Omonia and Newcastle then he's starting (and no doubt scoring as usual) against Spurs.
I understand his frustration, he's watching Rashford waste chance after chance, but he's been doing the same this season as well. At his age, skipping preseason has screwed himself over I reckon. The Ronaldo of last year is better than Rashford, this year's Ronaldo is about the same level - and that would drive him mad (naturally) given the levels he used to produce.
He's clearly not part of our future, neither is Rashford or Martial though. This whole episode just underlines how much we need a striker or two.
which is the whole problem with the CR7 cult because that is conveniently brushed off. "He's Cristiano Ronaldo", after all. In football, it should always be about what you've done lately, and the truth is Ronaldo has done shit all season. All his followers have to point to is legacy.
Don't put Ronaldo's season in the same bracket as Rashford's or even Martial's. Rashford has played infintely better this year and on his bad days misses chances created by his superior movement. Ronaldo's movement is actually lowkey gash for a striker. Actually waiting on people to figure why it seems he's always coming from an offside position at the worst times.
I agree with this and also think that Rashford would get more goals coming in from the left as he has so far this season. I don't think he's scored playing through the middle. I just don't agree that Ronaldo is the answer even short term. We lose so much tempo when he is on the pitch.
We need a striker in January but I no we wont get one so the moral of this post is Glazers Out.
This is our problem though ain't it. We can't rely on any of our center forward options. Martial - injury, Rashford - ability, Ronaldo - age. None of them are the answer short term or long term. The only easy decision is you'd play Marital if he was fit. If we've nobody to finish chances then we're wasting our domination in periods of games.
Given we just have a choice of Ronaldo or Rashford then all I want is for one of them to start scoring a goal every other game (that would be a start). Who would I bet my house on to start doing that? Neither. Who's more likely? Ronaldo. However, it's complicated, with Ronaldo we wouldn't win the ball back so high up the pitch, etc.
Like I say, shit options. Hopefully there's someone out there we can sign to do the job of pressing and taking chances. Ideally we need a couple of them!
Wonder where I said I wanted him to start?
I never said you did. You said check his stats so I did and they are awful.
As you’d expect from a 37 year old player who missed the entire pre season. I still see him as an option from the bench, his stats mean very little as he’s made this season even more difficult for himself. He’s a good finisher and our best attacking header of the ball.
He doesn't - that's the problem
Why don’t people understand Ronaldo won’t be able to operate like he did last season where every player was set up to service him.
people act that version can just be inserted into this team with no comprise on the way we play as a team.
plus he isn’t as sharp as he was last season anyway.
people act that version can just be inserted into this team with no comprise on the way we play as a team.
plus he isn’t as sharp as he was last season anyway.
Yeah exactly. But he's on some of the highest wages in the world as well. We're mugs if we are willing to pay that.
It's not our decision anymore.
Not only that he doesn't like being taken off either. The only situation where he's not going to be causing a problem is if he play's 90 mins every game.
We should make ronaldo the goalkeeper then.
Distribution out from the back might improve.
Just for fun, I would kind of love it if Ronaldo picks up some minor issue, forcing him to miss the WC in which Messi wins player of the tournament while leading Argentina to the trophy after scoring about 15 CL goals in the group stages in the lead up.
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