charlenefan
Far less insightful than the other Charley
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Jose, Mata, maybe Matic and maybe Lukaku. It'll be Mikel and Hilario next.
Hopefully De Bruyne as well
Jose, Mata, maybe Matic and maybe Lukaku. It'll be Mikel and Hilario next.
Your are spending an awful lot of time talking about a club you are claiming to not support anymore. If you are really moving on, why not just move on then?
Christ, this thread really went full retard. I'm expecting 'my dad can beat your dad' comments any second now.
Is there a digital equivalent to a nuclear bomb? This thread needs one.
I only mentioned the price in relation to once you spend that money you are tied to that player for a considerable amount of time, there's no way out.
No.
Success without quality football isn't worth anything IMO, but each to their own.
please get to a point, you are sounding like an attention seeker. Your response sounds like you are trying to back peddle by doing mental gymnastics with the obvious connotations of your post. So is your issue with the fact we spent the money on Lukaku?
if so please give us your available alternatives.
Nope, not a foreign fan, I don't see why where I am from should be a factor, there were plenty of Manchester born reds that walked out with the Glazer takover and chose to support Salford City.
Well IMO mate the quality will rise but we still have to support the club in bad and good times. If not then we would only be glory hunters.
I respect that you are passionate about United but feel that to stop watching United are alittle extreme tbh but that is just my opinion.
@Devil may care Out of curiosity, how did you feel about the way we played under LVG compared to Mourinho?
No, it's very straight forward, by paying as much as we have it's not like we can offload him next summer and move on, we are stuck with him and the style of play he brings for the foreseeable future, which I detest, that's it.
Aren't you a tad overreacting? There're players in world football who have got a better ball controll (not many), that's for sure, but as far as i'm concerned i believe that Lukaku is capable of executing a hold up play which would be up for the required job. As a team Lukaku enabled his Everton team mates -by playing some good passes, clear cut chances (IMO), so i think the quality to do that is there. Mourinho and his staff just have to exploit that, so at the end of the day he can show it more often. Yes, he fecked up some passes, but that's not only because he's bad, i think it has also got something to do with concentration. Something one can work on.Yes, I hate the route we are going and £75M on this type of striker is the final straw as we'll be stuck with him for years.
Are you kidding? This thread is pure goldChrist, this thread really went full retard. I'm expecting 'my dad can beat your dad' comments any second now.
Is there a digital equivalent to a nuclear bomb? This thread needs one.
It's nothing to do with player quality going downhill and all to do with the amount of money the big teams have now. Players are the most valuable commodity in the game, so it stands to reason that they go up in price as the teams get richer. If teams now have transfer budgets of £100/200m compared to the £25/50m they once had, the player costs will increase at the same rate. If teams had £1bn transfer budgets, top players would cost £500m, it doesn't really make the players any more or less valuable than they used to be. Paying £75m now for Lukaku isn't really much different to paying £7m for Andy Cole 20 years ago. I honestly don't get why anyone gets worked up about what we pay in transfer fees. It's all monopoly money to me.Player quality is really going down hill to where clubs are having to pay fortunes for good to decent players, not exceptional talent.
Isn't Diego Costa Spanish too?
how is his style of playing any worse than other strikers on a like for like position? His scores tonnes of goals by powering his way through defences and belts them in. What is there not to like in that? He is no less exciting than other strikers we have had.
It's a miracle you have tolerated United for so long...
And if we dont limit 'Spanish strikers' to nationality but extend to those who plied their trade in La Liga before coming to England, Aguero and Costa both excelled in this league.
The 'PL proven' nonsense is just tiresome. Sure, it takes some time to acclimatise but that holds true for every league. Good players will overcome those obstacles more often than not.
I really like Lukaku and think he's going to be a huge hit at this club. Very surprised with some of the backlash so far considering the other alternatives were not too great.
Lingard might not be happy not being Pogba's best buddy any longer. He seems to have attached himself to Rashford and I thought Marcus was a sensible lad.I really like Lukaku and think he's going to be a huge hit at this club. Very surprised with some of the backlash so far considering the other alternatives were not too great.
Messi? Past it and too short.People always like a moan. We could sign Messi and people still be moaning.
Lingard might not be happy not being Pogba's best buddy any longer. He seems to have attached himself to Rashford and I thought Marcus was a sensible lad.
Aren't you a tad overreacting? There're players in world football who have got a better ball controll (not many), that's for sure, but as far as i'm concerned i believe that Lukaku is capable of executing a hold up play which would be up for the required job. As a team Lukaku enabled his Everton team mates -by playing some good passes, clear cut chances (IMO), so i think the quality to do that is there. Mourinho and his staff just have to exploit that, so at the end of the day he can show it more often. Yes, he fecked up some passes, but that's not only because he's bad, i think it has also got something to do with concentration. Something one can work on.
Lukaku seems to be quite ambitious, comes across as a hard worker, he's got power and can bully most of the defenders. On top of that he's still only 24 years of age. What's not to like here?
Maybe i'm in the wrong here, but taking everything there's into consideration, why is Morata overall the better player for United?
If you remember, last year in november we both had a discussion (public and private) about a certain defender (hint Lindelöf). You did come across reasonable, therefore i'm surprised that you go down the binary route. I get that you'd prefer another player, but -despite the possible signing of a player who's already shown what he's got in the league and moreover who could really prosper here, threatening not to watch United anymore because he might me coming, seems like throwing a tantrum.
At the end of the day Lukaku will most likely make United a better team and it increases the chances of winning big trophies with him in the team. If i were a betting man, i would definitely say that Lukaku would become a hit at United.
The thing here mate is we clearly are of a complete differenc eof opinion on what Lukaku can offer, I've seen a lot of him, he's not unlike current day Rooney in the way attacks break down when he gets the ball due to his poor first touch and lack of control. Morata on the other hand is very good in this regard and is the kind of player that can be used as a fulcrum of an attack.
As far as my reaction goes, I am passionate about United and I am reacting how I feel, I see this buy as the road to nowhere, and the path to play more atrocious football, I have tried to voice that in an fair manner and not insult anyone despite provocation, like I say I will not comment on Lukaku at all once he signs, just discussing is all.
Romelaul LukagbaPogaku
I've answered this in several other threads, he's a very limited footballer, doesn't bring the rest of the attack into the game, has poor control, is poor in tight spaces and lumbers about waiting for the game to come to him, he offers no press on the CB's, not good to watch IMO and not the type of striker you can build a fluid, free flowing attack around.
People always like a moan. We could sign Messi and people still be moaning.
Retreat. We have been outflanked.
I could name you a long, long list of players worse than him that we have had at the club in all aspects of their game and every aspect that you have mentioned. Yet you persisted with the club. How about you wait and see what he brings next season and make an informed decision from there and for an improvement alongside other signings. I have a feeling his explosive style will bring goals (no one can argue about this) and excitement.
It hasn't been finalized yet so I'm still hoping Chelsea will gazump us, and I keep getting quoted so I am trying to respond civily to other posters. As soon as it's official I'll not comment on Lukaku and just focus on other threads as there's lots going on.
He is a good guy, but spectacularly immature.What's wrong with Lingard? A bit childish, but a good guy imo.
It's nothing to do with player quality going downhill and all to do with the amount of money the big teams have now. Players are the most valuable commodity in the game, so it stands to reason that they go up in price as the teams get richer. If teams now have transfer budgets of £100/200m compared to the £25/50m they once had, the player costs will increase at the same rate. If teams had £1bn transfer budgets, top players would cost £500m, it doesn't really make the players any more or less valuable than they used to be. Paying £75m now for Lukaku isn't really much different to paying £7m for Andy Cole 20 years ago. I honestly don't get why anyone gets worked up about what we pay in transfer fees. It's all monopoly money to me.
Messi? Past it and too short.
Phil Neville has fallen for it. There again it's Phil Neville. Although you would think he is one person who might know if the transfer has gone through.one of the worst photoshops ever. Anyone with a decent screen can see a huge difference in skin colour on the neck