I know that that player isn't available at the moment which is why I'm skeptical about paying the fee we are paying for a player who isn't considered to be in the required tier. Now I will leave you guys alone.
Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms
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I know that that player isn't available at the moment which is why I'm skeptical about paying the fee we are paying for a player who isn't considered to be in the required tier. Now I will leave you guys alone.
My private room has Redondo and Pirri posters lmaoI sense you'd have a CR7 poster in your Private room.
Im hyped for this deal but it would also be interesting to see the collateral damage done in the relationship between conte and chelsea?
Strange comment.
Traditionally Manchester United has built its success on players like Lukaku and Morata. Until recently 'galactico' style signings have been alien to Man Utd.
The likes of Cole, Sheringham and Yorke were not international superstars when we bought them. They were rated as among the best players in our league but the likes of Shearer were more highly regarded domestically and internationally. Players like Solksjaer, Ronaldo and Chicharito were virtual unknowns before we gave them the red shirt. The only time Fergie went really big was Veron, and that turned out as well as buys like Di Maria and Falcao.
We're having to overpay because we're Man Utd but the profile of the players is fine by me. If the manager thinks they fit his system that's what matters to me. Fergie built his teams similarly and that was much more effective for us than the superstar buys of recent seasons.
I have been to both although I never actually lived in any of these cities. I find the weather equally crappy. I fill sorry for the boy but if he really wanted the deal then he should have been more assertive. The fact that he didn't handle a transfer request might have scared United away.
Conte is a massive cry baby. He might even resign for it as he did for Cuadrado
He had his chance to force things for the right price. And that's why the price was unrealistic.
Google never mentioned that when he was finding out what they have in common.
6'3" though. Remarkable!
We will never win as many European Cups/Champions Leagues for a whole host of reasons. The English FA don't care about Europe. We don't get a winter break. Our game is non stop. Madrid and Barcelona have Spain tied up - Athletico have done great mind. We always had problems getting South Americans because of the climate/language etc and the old foreigners rule. The premiership is just much more unpredictable and no one has a monopoly.
We can improve players. So we're not worried. You boo players deemed great because you lack respect. Maybe it's an upbringing thing or the fact you think Madrids bleep don't stink. Enjoy your boring league where teams bend over and you can rest players.
Spending 90m euros on Morata would have been absurd as well if you think 100 mil euros is absurd for Lukaku. Atleast with Lukaku, it seems less riskier as he has been banging in goals in the PL since the last 2-3 years.
Lukaku in particular is a classic United signing. Someone who's excelled in England at a level one down from United & then been given the opportunity to step up. Its very rare for us to buy players who are already banging them in at real or barca or bayern or what have you (and when we do it rarely works out).
If speaking about Lukaku, then we were always buying the best strikers domestically under Ferguson. Nothing beneath Man utd. I believe we would've tried to sign Kane, but it seems impossible at the moment.
Look the £75 million is going to Everton, not you.
You're going to have to sell your training ground to the government for another 1 billion euros to fund Mbappe.
Lukaku didn't hand in a transfer request either.
You need to calm down.
And spending €300m on Mbappe is not hilarious
If you know our, at least, recent history, you'd know that these two are the types of signings we'd make under Sir Alex. The only exception would be that one of said players we'd be purchasing would be from another top European club, which we hardly ever did.
Under Sir Alex, we'd tend to go for the best strikers in the PL - whether they were ready made or had great potential. Cantona, Sheringham, Yorke, Cole, Saha, Rooney, Tevez, Berbatov, RvP. Lukaku has been one of the most deadly strikers in the PL for the past couple of years and still has room to improve given he's still young.
We'd also prefer to buy young-ish players who have seemingly great potential than ready made superstars, which Morata slots into. Of course he's already played for two of the biggest clubs in the world, but when you look at him, you still think potential rather than being a ready made player. If you think back, how many ready made superstars did we buy under Sir Alex? Bar a few top class forwards, not many.
I'm not saying that we'd still 100% be in for both players if we were still at the standard Sir Alex set, but they've always been the types of players we've prioritised.
Now let's sign Bakyoko and piss off Arsenal by going after Lemar or Mahrez
I am not surprised at all. Conte is very selective in terms of players. He wants his players to have a specific set of skills in certain roles which restricts him to a very short list of players. When he doesn't get the player he wants he'll go berzerk. He left Juventus because Juventus refused to go toe to toe with Chelsea for Cuadrado
Lukaku is beneath United
Since when was such trolling allowed.
Since when was such trolling allowed.
The thing is he seemed to be a bit assertive. Cutting your honeymoon short and going back to Madrid "to push the deal through" was a bit assertive, enough to show a level of enthusiasm that was at least a couple of notches above mere acquiescence. It seems strange he didnt take the next step but I guess he just thought it wouldnt be necessary, and presumably there was some kind of financial penalty for doing so, some lost loyalty bonus or something.
Its interesting to speculate about whether it would have made a difference, if Lukaku was always first choice and was always progressing in the background, as is suggested, we might not have taken him anyway. And maybe that's the reason he wasnt more assertive - that for all the media noise, we never encouraged him to push harder. I read yesterday we were just completely uncommunicative with Madrid for the last few weeks - the club, that is, not the player. But if we always saw him as a backup it might have been us that wasnt assertive in a way that encouraged him to be assertive to the point that the deal would definitely happen.
If he had handed in a transfer request and then we'd turned around and said actually we dont want you... then I would start to feel a bit sorry for him. (Not that sorry though.)
Juve were waiting for the buy back clause to expire so they were reluctant to play him before that. He always played the big games any way, CL knockouts, finals.
He didn't need to. Everton aren't asking 80m for a bench warmer.
But not as the main striker. Don't take me wrong. He did well in Turin. However there were times when he struggled big time.
He didnt need to, he refused to sign a contract and he only had a year left on the old one. In those circumstances they had to sell him either way.
Because it would have been silly to bet everything on one transfer target when so many things can go wrong? I think it's pretty clear we hedged our bets and looked for the best deal possible.
But he almost always scored when he played regardless of how big the games or occasions were. From what I saw, he is a great striker but admittedly he has never been the main man for a full season. I can understand why the club were reluctant to pay 75m.
Who else is available?
Lukaku is a known quantity in the Premier League and he already lives locally to United. That takes away a big part of the gamble that we would be taking if we signed Morata or another foreign based player.
He is 23 and if he continues his development he will be one of the best about in terms of numbers.
Mourinho has worked with him and likes him which is especially important with a manager of Mourinho's character.
Ferguson often signed non world class strikers like Yorke because of how they performed in the domestic league so as an older poster I am quite happy with the signing.
Lukaku is beneath United
Since when was such trolling allowed.
Strikers had always been controversial with United. I remember my older cousin (whose also a United fan) hitting the stirring wheel and cursing because we signed Cole for 'ridiculous money'. He was a big fan of Keith Gillespie and he couldn't understand why on earth would we spend 7m (+ lose Gillespie) for a 'poacher with pace'. Few years after my Liverpool mates of mine were celebrating Teddy's signing as they perceived it as a clear sign of our imminent decline. No ambitious club would dare replacing Cantona with some old fart from Tottenham who can barely dribble or run. I confess that I was slightly pissed off seeing us losing out on Kluivert and ending up with Yorke.
Cole had an incredible record when we signed him to be fair. Galactico signings werent a thing back then but there was no question we were buying some kind of lesser quality product - though in his first season it did start to look like we had overpaid a bit. I have especially fond memories of that deal because I was a teenager at the time and my geography teacher was a huge Newcastle fan, he wasnt too happy.
Yeah, he sounds just like Ruud van Nistelrooy from that
Isn't that what makes a club bigger...having more fans (bigger berth in terms of marketing, bigger fan base) more money (bigger finances, bigger scope). UNITED ARE BIGGER THAN REAL. A bigger club around the world. Fact.
Now, who's a better team right now? Real Madrid.
But that doesn't stop United being the biggest club in the world.
Prestige and trophies would also be factors and would go in their favour. I would say Madrid is a bigger club, personally. Though I would also say these conversations are as pointless as "Is player x world class?" and "Is player y a legend?" There are no definitive answers.
If the Current Mid and Defense is to go by which is absolutely resolute with also the special Powers of Mourinho's Nullifying abililities and with the ability to play both proactive with control of the ball and reactive in counter attack Scoring goals is the only concern with a need for better transition in the middle which once solved can really provide the attacking freedom to the forwards to overload and score. Goals change games, Weather the build up is perfect on the eye and philosophically and theoretically or Unbalanced with full attacking freedom matters very less. Lukaku have a tendency to score from any angles and bully the defenses. Even organized defenses does find it very hard to defend against a explosive player like him. We just have to play to Our strenghts in attack and score while being proactive, When Posession is lost to recover it back.
Even against top sides we have the capability of winning the midfeild and defense battle, Solving goal problem will be enough for us to compete on top levels.
Real are the biggest club in the world, in my opinion. That's why they can take our best players. We saw it with Ronaldo and, bar a dodgy fax machine, Davy would have joined him.
I say that as a United supporter of over 35 years.
I say that as a United supporter of over 35 years.
Mate, you're on a Utd forum that treats oppo fans with massive respect and encourages proper debate, show a bit of respect to this place.
And for the record, Rom is a classic United signing - most of our legendary players were signed from the level Lukaku is at now.
It's the more 'Galactico' signings that, if any, embarrass me a little - Falcao, ADM, Depay - these guys are made for inferior leagues, like La Liga, where the smaller teams have far less money and are thus far less competitive.
These type of players are often soft at the core, as are many of the fans of these type of clubs.
Agreed not only that,Chelsea are now in the position we were in if not worse.
Scrapping around for a capable striker, I'd laugh my cock off if they turned to morata for 85mil.
Edited; shocking grammar ha
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-pogba-amid-manchester-united-medical-reports
For thoes that missed it a link with new snaps and this is done isn't it... Even sky is saying its getting closer and the maybe claiming medical was done in LA yesterday. or in jurno speak "according to sources"
For thoes that missed it a link with new snaps and this is done isn't it... Even sky is saying its getting closer and the maybe claiming medical was done in LA yesterday. or in jurno speak "according to sources"
If you Meet a person on any godforsaken island in remote corner of the world , He would be a Man united fan. That's how big Man united is around the world.
Real Could only buy ronaldo because we had some ethics and were soft. Now Its not Possible for them to afford the players we want to keep.
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