I don't think he'll ever have the same season playing off Lukaku. Not unless Lukaku decides to develop Welbeck-levels of selfless off-the-ball running. But, then, that's not we're paying £75m for, so it's a hopeless scenario.
That's the genius of this transfer though. If we get him, celebration. If we don't, we *genuinely* never wanted him. It's perfect.
McAteer didn't play in a world cup against Greece, Japan and Ivory coast.Jason McAteer didn't get golden boot in a world cup though mate.
can't blame Them. He kind of always made it seem that he only saw to use them as a stepping stone to launch his career. Didn't look like he had any love for the club and was openly talking about moving. Strikes me as a lad that will celebrate the moment he scores vs them
I remember he didn't celebrate when he scored vs West Brom but I do agree with everything else you said. He has used them as a stepping stone almost openly.
We've only got 3 of those players
How?
fair enough
Cheers! I pretty much agree with everything. The thing I am not sure about though is the implication that we or anybody else really, can just change styles and be able to play directly or win the ball high up and play pro actively whenever needed. If that was possible, every manager would do that as obviously it's the best strategy; be ready for every scenario. The reality however is you need practice and tons of it. One of the reasons Barcelona became so brilliant at what they did is that they were trying to do it every game for example. The other point is Mourinho himself. He has never built a team that can play a highly demanding tactical setup which is what is needed if you want to play higher up. The main reasons for that are exactly what I mentioned before, it takes time and practice and with that naturally mistakes and he is simply not willing or incapable of doing that. So I wouldn't be sure that we can mix styles that easily regardless of the calibre of players we have.Exactly Point to Point.
Fergie's gambling instinct was the thing which made it Absolutely rocking. That is why Fergie time existed and that's why we scored so many late goals and never gave up until the very end. Mourinho is not the clone of fergie but he thinks the same in lots of ways and that's why he has won the league and won every where in the world, and can Use some of the same Dynamics in Posession while in attack To make us better against all the smaller teams we drew last year as our transition was never resulting in some counter attacking dynamics.
Alsowhat you said about the european Philosophies being antidote to the fergie way was one of the exact reasons for Him being an under achiver in the european competions. Its a Key Paradox and difference between the PL and CL.
But one thing I would like to add in this is the Education and Play style Lvg Set up in two years for united and built his Foundations on was exactly that same european Philosophies and principles Of possesion based system. A high press and High line helps in recovering the ball in a proactive way which contributes in defense in a better way and wins back the ball proactively in the midddle itself
And Mourinho after the 3 defeats realized that and adapted to the same tactics and philosophies, so we found all the smaller teams park the bus against us. If we Play the same way this season like last season with a Mobile attacking focal point and Also add some same fergie /mourinho Direct counter attacking dynamics in the build up and play a Mix of Possesion based Principles while adding directness and faster transition In posession When Required to score goals and create more space The goal scoring problems can be solved , While Having to Be proactive and high press in defense to win the posession back in the middle itself without having to drop a deep line defense will see us getting to a better level in european stages as well against top class european sides too because this team is capable of doing that with High pressing midfeilders like Herrera and Pogba Or a new DM and also defenders who can play a high line in bailly and lindelof with ball playing abilities in posession Like a Pep or klopp team does or barcelona or real madrid or bayern do too because of those similar possession based principles. They executed it better because they had great player to do so in the midfeild , Which i belive we also have.
Fine, my mistake. He scored 15 goals in 63 appearances. Seems they did play him, but he did not score. What is your point? He was not up to standard?
Muppets gone wild, geebs
What are you talking about? I said in my post he wasn't their number 1 striker. They had Tevez in his first season at Juve and Dybala the year after. They were their first choice forwards.
Better get used to it, we have him for around 10 years now!
Flat track bully though..
He had to be bedded in since he was struggling with life in Italy in the beginning. A lot of those appearances were also subs. By the end of his time there he was trusted to start their biggest game and scored both in the CL semi and final. Real then bought him back at the amount stipulated.
Muppets gone wild, geebs
Mandzukic, not Dybala.
I don't mind really this. If you have the ambition to be the best in the business then Everton are always going to be a stepping stone. Even Rooney realised that at 18 despite supporting the club his whole life.
I know bud. I didn't mean anything untoward with that at all.
That is a very good stat. I think people are missing the point when it comes to Lukaku. Sure, he's not a beautiful player to watch but he's a World class finisher. One of the deadliest around. Get some movement around him and some space and he will score for fun even in games he looks average.
It does? Do you remember how many times we put in a half decent cross from the wing? Or how many times our striker had time and space to run into? We will need to transform the team and get other players to get the best of Lukaku. Martial cant cross to dave his life and Pogba is our only player who speeds up the play with through and long balls.
Not at all but all of the whispers were £100m. Everton have spent roughly that. I just wonder whether they shat themselves because they spent it and suddenly Chelsea didn't cough up.I'd be very happy to see him hear, but are we claiming £75m is a bargain now?
