Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms

How do you feel about the imminent signing of Romelu Lukaku?

  • Muppetastic!

    Votes: 456 20.6%

  • Happy enough

    Votes: 1,222 55.2%

  • Ambivalent

    Votes: 370 16.7%

  • Disappointed

    Votes: 112 5.1%

  • Oh please god no!

    Votes: 54 2.4%
  • Total voters
    2,214
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prtk0811 said:
Its Not rare anymore with Pep Klopp and wenger in this league and teams like bayern barca and madrid in europe. Its a key paradox and key difference between teams and philosophies you face in this league in smaller teams compared to top 4 in the current era. and this is what united have to adapt to in certain situations playing when playing against certain philosophies.
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This season for example Madrid have the same type of possession we had. While I see where you are coming from, you are totally wrong. Under SAF we had the same possession percentage than Real Madrid or United this season, we were always close to Wenger too. The one difference is that like Zidane, SAF was perfectly happy to leave the ball to certain teams in order to win a game, which Guardiola or Wenger wouldn't do.
 
Irrational. said:
Just remember the games last season against Burnley (H), Stoke (H), Stoke (A), West Ham (H). Everton (A), Hull (H), Bournemouth (H), WBA (H), Everton (H), Swansea (H), Southamptom (A). 22 points dropped.

All draws. All games where we had multiple chances to kill the game off but failed, be that through luck, shit finishing, the keeper having the game of his life or a combination of the three (feck you Heaton).

None of these teams are top 6 quality (an argument can be made for Everton). Lukaku may be a flat-track bully, but he will put teams like these to the sword - and that is exactly what we missed last season.

Championships are won through destroying teams of this level and calibre. If there's one thing he's good at, it's this. And he's only going to improve.

It's no coincidence two of the best managers in the PL (Conte and Jose) wanted him. Yet people are getting hungover about his first touch. :rolleyes:
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Well said.
 
SamVimes said:
Except Morata wasn't playing, that is my point. Lukaku has played regularly for five years banging in goals for WBA and Everton. Juventus took Morata on loan for a season, did not play him, and chose not to buy him. You seem to be missing the point.
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Wrong, wrong and wrong. They bought him, did play him but he wasn't their number 1 striker, Real activated a buy back clause to get him back.
 
When all is said and done, if Lukaku improves his hold up game, he will be a very good player.
 
Rake said:
I read that Lukaku will count as a homegrown player which is also a nice bonus.
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it's a great bonus considering we lost Schneiderlin and are about to let off Rooney and may sell Smalling.

Lukaku, Lingard, Pogba, Jones, Carrick, Shaw, Young ain't so bad.
 
ChaddyP said:
it's a great bonus considering we lost Schneiderlin and are about to let off Rooney and may sell Smalling.

Lukaku, Lingard, Pogba, Jones, Carrick, Shaw, Young ain't so bad.
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So no love for Rashford and the Pereiras?:)
 
JPRouve said:
This season for example Madrid have the same type of possession we had. While I see where you are coming from, you are totally wrong. Under SAF we had the same possession percentage than Real Madrid or United this season, we were always close to Wenger too. The one difference is that like Zidane, SAF was perfectly happy to leave the ball to certain teams in order to win a game, which Guardiola or Wenger wouldn't do.
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But the difference here is not many teams in spain parks the bus like we faced. I think No teams in spain play defensive reactive way, Spain is gripped with creative Posession based proactive tactics from top to bottom unlike EPL.
 
JPRouve said:
Which is even better but they are homegrown.
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Yeh they are, as is Tim and Axel. But we won't be registering them in the 25 man squad which was what I was more referring to. Which as you rightly said is great!
 
prtk0811 said:
But the difference here is not many teams in spain parks the bus like we faced. I think No teams in spain play defensive reactive way, Spain is gripped with creative Posession based proactive tactics from top to bottom unlike EPL.
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The first sentence is wrong, plenty of teams park the bus.
 
JPRouve said:
This season for example Madrid have the same type of possession we had. While I see where you are coming from, you are totally wrong. Under SAF we had the same possession percentage than Real Madrid or United this season, we were always close to Wenger too. The one difference is that like Zidane, SAF was perfectly happy to leave the ball to certain teams in order to win a game, which Guardiola or Wenger wouldn't do.
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I wil refer you to a post above who exactly understood the points and made his exellent points too.

Theonas said:
Excellent post about the nature of the PL and how Fergie adapted to it. I am not so sure José is of the same ilk though. He shares a lot of those similarities as you point out in terms of how he and Fergie both utilized a more direct approach but in the case of Fergie, what contributed to his approach to work was a highly unusual gambling instinct. Most managers are less likely to gamble as Fergie did, and Mourinho is no different if not even more unlikely. The other point I wanted to make is that whereas I agree that in the PL, going direct and taking advantage of the space in transitions has proven to be the most efficient tactic thus far at least. However, it has also contributed to our teams being left behind when it comes to ball rotation and game control through possession compared to the best European sides. Even our best teams could not achieve a level high enough that they can control games against the best European teams and that is down to in no small parts, to having to play a very different game against domestic opponents. This usually presents a paradox for most managers in our league, especially the unfamiliar ones. Mourinho and Fergie in the Queiroz era made up for it through adopting a deep defensive line when faced with high quality opponent so it might just work for our current manager.
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Gambit said:
You kidding me, a front three of Martial Lukaku Rashford sounds positively drool worthy.
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Morata plays across the width of the pitch and makes a lot of runs that open up space for wide forwards to exploit by cutting in.

Lukaku plays within the width of the penalty area and almost only takes up positions in the box to get on the end of chances that are created from wide positions. Not too dissimilar to Zlatan, albeit a hell of a lot more mobile.

Neither Martial nor Rashford are widemen, but they can cut in from wide if the striker creates the space for them to do so. As such, Lukaku is the wrong man to do that for them.

To illustrate, here's a vid of Martial's best season. Bear in mind that he created relatively little from the left. Almost all of his good work related to him getting on the end of chances. Even at his best, he was little more than a striker stuck out on the wing. Look at this past season and you'll see how stranded he looked tethered to the touchline for whole matches as Ibrahimovic got into the very positions he wanted to be in. Lukaku will only exacerbate that. The same applies to Rashford (although not quite to the same extent as Rashford can at least cross the ball).

Other than the Liverpool goal, Martial was a central striker in all but name:



None of which is to say Lukaku is a bad player. He's not. He's probably about par with Morata. But he's a cog for the wrong machine. Putting up this outlay effectively means undermining the existing quality we have in attack, rather than supporting it.
 
Xeno said:
Basically what I say to the missus.
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we don't need to know how you can't satisfy your woman ffs :lol: we are talking football, keep that shit indoors.
 
Found this on another forum :lol::lol::lol:

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Can you imagine the sort of apocalyptic meltdown there'd be if we were chasing him all summer and Chelsea swooped in and got him? Ed would be torn to pieces. I wonder how Chelsea fans are taking it?
 
Tarrou said:
Can you imagine the sort of apocalyptic meltdown there'd be if we were chasing him all summer and Chelsea swooped in and got him? Ed would be torn to pieces. I wonder how Chelsea fans are taking it?
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I imagine they'd be pleasantly surprised if they got Morata by the end of it all.
 
Attila said:
I think 4 or 5 of them are in here, the one at 1.17 was especially annoying
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Dearie me, the state of our finishing last season. Now we sign someone to tuck in some of those fluffed chances people are still having a moan. Weirdos
 
Tarrou said:
Can you imagine the sort of apocalyptic meltdown there'd be if we were chasing him all summer and Chelsea swooped in and got him? Ed would be torn to pieces. I wonder how Chelsea fans are taking it?
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A lot of them fuming on their subreddit.

Saw a lot on there who don't want Morata for the fees reported too.
 
Mate of mine who's been an Everton season ticket holder for donkeys years said this when I asked him about Lukaku -

"He should score goals mate but his all round game is shit. For such a big lad, he should have a lot more. Terrible first touch. Constantly spoke to the media saying he wants out, just very disrespectful so I've never really took to him. Interesting stat that if you take his goals away then we'd have finished in the same place in the league, they never really made that much difference. He'd definitely have to step it up when he moves cos there's no hiding place then at clubs like you's and Chelsea."
 
Dante said:
Morata plays across the width of the pitch and makes a lot of runs that open up space for wide forwards to exploit by cutting in.

Lukaku plays within the width of the penalty area and almost only takes up positions in the box to get on the end of chances that are created from wide positions. Not too dissimilar to Zlatan, albeit a hell of a lot more mobile.

Neither Martial nor Rashford are widemen, but they can cut in from wide if the striker creates the space for them to do so. As such, Lukaku is the wrong man to do that for them.

To illustrate, here's a vid of Martial's best season. Bear in mind that he created relatively little from the left. Almost all of his good work related to him getting on the end of chances. Even at his best, he was little more than a striker stuck out on the wing. Look at this past season and you'll see how stranded he looked tethered to the touchline for whole matches as Ibrahimovic got into the very positions he wanted to be in. Lukaku will only exacerbate that. The same applies to Rashford (although not quite to the same extent as Rashford can at least cross the ball).

Other than the Liverpool goal, Martial was a central striker in all but name:



None of which is to say Lukaku is a bad player. He's not. He's probably about par with Morata. But he's a cog for the wrong machine. Putting up this outlay effectively means undermining the existing quality we have in attack, rather than supporting it.
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Watching that makes me rememner what a great season he had. We actually played some nice football that season. Even rooney looks good in that video.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
Mate of mine who's been an Everton season ticket holder for donkeys years said this when I asked him about Lukaku -

"He should score goals mate but his all round game is shit. For such a big lad, he should have a lot more. Terrible first touch. Constantly spoke to the media saying he wants out, just very disrespectful so I've never really took to him. Interesting stat that if you take his goals away then we'd have finished in the same place in the league, they never really made that much difference. He'd definitely have to step it up when he moves cos there's no hiding place then at clubs like you's and Chelsea."
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Sounds bitter tbh.
 
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