Romelu Lukaku | United confirm deal subject to medical and personal terms

How do you feel about the imminent signing of Romelu Lukaku?

  • Muppetastic!

    Votes: 456 20.6%

  • Happy enough

    Votes: 1,222 55.2%

  • Ambivalent

    Votes: 370 16.7%

  • Disappointed

    Votes: 112 5.1%

  • Oh please god no!

    Votes: 54 2.4%
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He's a proven 1 in 2 Premier League striker. Goes on the homegrown list, therefore almost fall in the 'English Tax' bracket.

If Higuain goes for £75m then I think it is there or thereabouts.

The fee doesn't concern, it's ensuring the ten players behind him are gelled and good enough to ensure his defects are not highlighted every week, and of course that he is laid on to enough chances to continue his brilliant record in England.

I'm not massively excited, but I think it is a logical move to at the very least, cement our place as a Top 4 team in England.

We are certainly a Bale/Ronaldo/Neymar/Messi mega-individual away from having a perfect attacking unit. Martial and/or Rashford HAVE to step it up a level.
 
JPRouve said:
The fee is relevant because we are setting and consolidating our own market, clubs will hold us to those fees because they know that when we sit at the table, we are desperate to not leave empty handed. We are shopping addicts.
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Arsenal just paid 50mil for lacazette, we were or are desperate for a striker.

So the alternative is to stick to your guns and say the familiar "there is no value in the market" keep your pennies and continue to under achieve whilst our rivals get stronger each year?
 
Rozay said:
Well then now you have clarified your point, I am back to disagreeing with you. Your first sentence shows no recognition of market forces at all. It basically suggests that a player's ability is the only factor that goes into determining his price.

Diego Costa is reportedly subject to a bid of 30m euros or so from Atletico the other day. They are not stupid, they know that isn't the going rate for his talent.
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I have already said you should use the player's situation as leverage in negotiating when possible.

But that is different from being unwilling to pay 50m for Sanchez but gladly cough up same or more for Vardy simply cos you expected Arsenal to sell Sanchez for a lower fee cos of his contract situation and LCFC being reluctant to part with Vardy cos he has been their best striker the past seasons.

Yes you can try to lowball and exploit the situation but that should not be an excuse to pay more for lesser product. The price you should be willing to pay should be primarily dependent on the value you expect to get from the player.
 
JPRouve said:
The fee is relevant because we are setting and consolidating our own market, clubs will hold us to those fees because they know that when we sit at the table, we are desperate to not leave empty handed. We are shopping addicts.
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It's like looking at the wine list in a 5 star restaurant if you need to ask the price you can't afford it.
 
Wow. Didn't think it was credible re: our interest.

I am not the biggest fan, but he does score goals and we need goalscorers. Hopefully we get another goalscorer alongside Lukaku as well.

hopefully he performs well. Still relatively young.
 
JPRouve said:
The fee is relevant because we are setting and consolidating our own market, clubs will hold us to those fees because they know that when we sit at the table, we are desperate to not leave empty handed. We are shopping addicts.
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It doesn't work like that, they don't hold all the power. It's not a case of us being shopping addicts, it's about us buying what we want/need. If the sellers try to be too greedy so as to set a price we can't or won't afford, we won't pay it. We hold some power. They themselves will not get the sale, and could end up losing themselves a fair price due to greed.

There's always a balance to be found.
 
SirScholes said:
Arsenal just paid 50mil for lacazette, we were or are desperate for a striker.

So the alternative is to stick to your guns and say the familiar "there is no value in the market" keep your pennies and continue to under achieve whilst our rivals get stronger each year?
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Our rivals keep being average every year for the past 5 years, they spend and don't improve, exactly like us.

Fully Fledged said:
It's like looking at the wine list in a 5 star restaurant if you need to ask the price you can't afford it.
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That analogy makes no sense.
 
He's a bit of a donkey but since he's gonna be coached by Jose, it is a fabulastic signing!
 
sullydnl said:
That's like saying house x should only cost more than house Y if it's a nicer house. When in reality we know that's not how houses are valued. It's the same with players.
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As a buyer, my valuation of the house is based primarily on what I expect to get from the house, be it the location, size or amenities. Which is why appraisals are usual based on comparable sales and my offer would consider the alternative houses available for sale. It should have nothing to do with willingness of the seller to sell. I would not pay more for a house simply cos the owner is reluctant to sell
 
It's just a shame that wins over sides placed 7th - 20th are worth less points than wins over top six sides.... Oh wait.
 
Gambit said:
You kidding me, a front three of Martial Lukaku Rashford sounds positively drool worthy.
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It's 3 strikers with 2 playing out wide. There really is no balance to our attack.

Now it is argued Martial's best position is on the left and will be long term, but at the very least we need a genuine wide player on the other side to offer something different. Neither Rashford or Martial look any good playing on the right.
 
JPRouve said:
Our rivals keep being average every year for the past 5 years, they spend and don't improve, exactly like us.



That analogy makes no sense.
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I must have missed something we have finished 7th 4th 5th and 6th? we aren't catching them or haven't been
 
Just remember the games last season against Burnley (H), Stoke (H), Stoke (A), West Ham (H). Everton (A), Hull (H), Bournemouth (H), WBA (H), Everton (H), Swansea (H), Southamptom (A). 22 points dropped.

All draws. All games where we had multiple chances to kill the game off but failed, be that through luck, shit finishing, the keeper having the game of his life or a combination of the three (feck you Heaton).

None of these teams are top 6 quality (an argument can be made for Everton). Lukaku may be a flat-track bully, but he will put teams like these to the sword - and that is exactly what we missed last season.

Championships are won through destroying teams of this level and calibre. If there's one thing he's good at, it's this. And he's only going to improve.

It's no coincidence two of the best managers in the PL (Conte and Jose) wanted him. Yet people are getting hungover about his first touch. :rolleyes:
 
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Rozay said:
It doesn't work like that, they don't hold all the power. It's not a case of us being shopping addicts, it's about us buying what we want/need. If the sellers try to be too greedy so as to set a price we can't or won't afford, we won't pay it. We hold some power. They themselves will not get the sale, and could end up losing themselves a fair price due to greed.

There's always a balance to be found.
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Look it's simple. Is Lukaku worth 75m to United? You say yes, I say no. Since I say no, from my POV we are being bamboozled, the same way Marseilles got bamboozled by West Ham for Payet.
 
Sereques said:
He's not the club's photographer. He's a freelance photographer.
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Freelance photographer who works for the club from time to time he's more likely to have close United contact than anyone.

Plus Simon Stone from the BBC lead with he exact same story and certainty you can guarantee it come from the senior clubs sources, so now we wait.
 
I thought Jose had a £300m transfer kitty? Is there a reason that we wont just pay the asking price for Morata too? I am sure you guys know a lot more than me. Thanks in advance.
 
Dracula said:
So, sounds like we got pissed off waiting for Madrid. At the same time (purely coincidentally) we put in a bid for lukaku and have it (supposedly) accepted.

So, if lukaku is first choice (which i think he was) why didnt we put this bid in before?

It's because lukaku had chosen Chelsea. Thats fine, makes sense. So what changed? Lukaku doesnt care if this drags on but i bet Riola does. How much you want to bet this was Riola telling utd to bid as chelsea were stalling, but actually wanting Chelsea to get their finger out.

So what will now happen is Chelsea will bid the same, lukaku will agree to go Chelsea. And when we go skulking back to madrid they'll laugh at us and demand 75m.

This could end awfully
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Could end well though. I agree and think it's a ruse but designed to flush out Chelsea & Madrid. We want footballers off both of them and both are dragging their feet about it.
 
Scored the same amount of non-penalty goals as Kane, though admittedly in a lot more gametime. Still very impressive.
 
lococol said:
I thought Jose had a £300m transfer kitty? Is there a reason that we wont just pay the asking price for Morata too? I am sure you guys know a lot more than me. Thanks in advance.
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Cause they both will want to play #9 as the lead striker. Morata will not want to play on the left wing.
 
JPRouve said:
Our rivals keep being average every year for the past 5 years, they spend and don't improve, exactly like us.



That analogy makes no sense.
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Of course it does. We can afford it so what's the problem? IF we beat Chelsea to his signing then that's a massive slap in the face for them. You don't get to dine 5 star by being a cheapskate about the price. It's the same with buying 5 star players.
 
Sereques said:
He's not the club's photographer. He's a freelance photographer.
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... that happens to do a lot of freelance work for Manchester United. And also happens to have correctly called the majority of transfers to us over the last 4 years.
 
Here he is wearing our kit! Our new £75 M striker from Croydon!
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Summit said:
I dunno, maybe Jose going after Perisic is because he wants to move Martial up front along with Rashford and new signing?
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I think Mou shaped his transfer strategy according to the club's fees. His no 1 targets might have been Griezmann and Morata/Lukaku. Once Griezmann bailed out we went for Perisic as he was meant to be cheap and wouldn't mind the bench too much. After Inter started asking crazy money for him he might have thought that we would pay 10-20m extra and move for Lukaku and Morata instead
 
JPRouve said:
Our rivals keep being average every year for the past 5 years, they spend and don't improve, exactly like us.
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They spend on players in the same philosophy and we were spending for a different philosophy than we have played over the years. Makes a massive difference.
 
M4YON said:
Freelance photographer who works for the club from time to time he's more likely to have close United contact than anyone.

Plus Simon Stone from the BBC lead with he exact same story and certainty you can guarantee it come from the senior clubs sources, so now we wait.
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He tweeted that after BBC ran the story. The only inside knowledge he has is from camping out waiting for medicals...
 
Escobar said:
I disagree. We created plenty of chances last season, taking them was the main problem. A Fabinho would give Pogba so much more freedom, same for Herrera while at least Valencia gives us width on the right side. And there is hope that Miki and Martial will have much better seasons
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Rozay said:
I disagree personally. Our players are not frozen in last season's form. I see no reason why Mkhitaryan, for instance, would not create a shed load of goals for Lukaku. I see no reason why should now see Martial as a 5 goal a season wide man either. That team, if harvested, has enough.

Also, chance creation was not our main problem last season, conversion was.
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If Martial dramatically improves his goal return and Mkhitaryan does the same with his chance creation, while Pogba is freed-up by the addition of a new #6, then yes, I admit we won't have a problem. Whether or not expecting all of them to do that is 'wishful thinking', is a matter of opinion. I think we need more quality out wide.
 
Good signing, obviously. But I think everyone seems to forget that he is only a replacement for Zlatan, I just cannot see anything changing from last year at the moment.

Lindelof creates an even more solid back four.

Our attack will be no different unless we sign the players to assist the goals, simple as that.
 
Fully Fledged said:
Of course it does. We can afford it so what's the problem? IF we beat Chelsea to his signing then that's a massive slap in the face for them. You don't get to dine 5 star by being a cheapskate about the price. It's the same with buying 5 star players.
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It's not because you can afford something that you should just buy it at any price.
 
JPRouve said:
Look it's simple. Is Lukaku worth 75m to United? You say yes, I say no. Since I say no, from my POV we are being bamboozled, the same way Marseilles got bamboozled by West Ham for Payet.
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And Should Morata be 80m for united?
 
Fully Fledged said:
Of course it does. We can afford it so what's the problem? IF we beat Chelsea to his signing then that's a massive slap in the face for them. You don't get to dine 5 star by being a cheapskate about the price. It's the same with buying 5 star players.
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Have you ever considered that they don't value Lukaku at 75m GBP? That they have back up options themselves and have Costa to keep if they don't find a number 9?

Its no slap on the face to anyone. They needed full backs to bolster and they've gone about their business. We needed a number 9 and we went about ours. I'm sure they would have liked to sign Lukaku but weren't anywhere near as desperate for a striker as we were. Just like Real weren't anywhere near as desperate for a CM as we were last season.

People need to stop being so giddy about big transfers to the extent that they feel we are "slapping" other clubs in the face. We didn't then, we aren't now. It's a childish mentality to think that.
 
Infra-red said:
If Martial dramatically improves his goal return and Mkhitaryan does the same with his chance creation, while Pogba is freed-up to create from deep by the addition of a new #6, then yes, I admit we won't have a problem. Whether or not expecting all of them to do that is 'wishful thinking', is a matter of opinion. I think we need more quality out wide.
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To be fair, both those players have shown they can.
 
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