I thought he was a huge gamble but didn't expect to see him fail like he did this season.
Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
Better or worse than Shevchenko ?
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Shevchenko is a ballon d'or winner.
If you meant their Chelsea careers than lukaku has a better ratio i guess but that's about it.
Does anyone think he's done at big clubs now. This was his last chance and he's blown it after redeeming himself at Inter he had a real chance to kick on but honestly I can't see him leading the line at any top club ever again. I don't think even the top Italian sides would have him back now we know an aging Dzeko is a better player.
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I think Inter would have him back, think PSG might even take him. Chelsea won't get their money back though and he may even have to go out on loan to get him out in the short term if Chelsea decide they want him out ASAP
I think he'd be perfect at a club like Atletico Madrid. They do have previous for buying Chelsea striker flops, but genuinely in a low block system focused on counters he could be excellent.
Not trying to be a know-it-all at all, but this is almost exactly what I expected from him. Having watched him so much at United, I think I posted several times that he was the worst first choice striker I had seen at United in the last 25 years, and his stint in a much lower level serie A did nothing to assuage me of that belief. The fact he’s looked a hopeless oaf in a Chelsea shirt is one of the most predictable things in a long time. His first touch, mobility and movement are just not at a top class level. Which is essential for a striker in such a competitive league. In fact I would go to say that his attributes in those areas are decidedly third tier.
Absolutely. I am always surprised how many expect him to play as a target man for a dominant side. He never was suited to a role like Benzema or Lewandowski play, it's just what people assume when they look at him. His skills (that he definitely has) in a weird way just don't really fit his body .
Lukaku is still a very good striker, just below the world-class level, depending on his form he either convinces people he is world class or he’s useless but it’s neither. 68 goals for Belgium shows his quality and despite a weaker Serie A, you cannot dismiss 47 goals in just two league seasons. Tuchel has decided he doesn’t suit him and Lukaku’s confidence is low, don’t be surprised to see him do well for someone else.
Easy tiger on the 'excellent'
- to be fair, I think he's a better fit stylistically than Suarez, for instance!Yeah he really needs to play as part of a striker pairing - ideally right of centre so he can isolate a CB 1v1 with space to attack. You're spot on - he really plays like someone far smaller than his stature.
Agree he has been very good for Belgium. I thought he would suit Chelsea well, but it has not worked.
If Simoone didn't strangle him after the first tantrum. It is a place he'd score a lot of goals if his head was in the game though.
And more than half of those are against cannon fodder
Main striker in the golden generation of Belgium and they've won feck all despite being stacked with great players all over the pitch.
So did some people on the caf
Overly harsh. Serie A isn't some farmer's league and he was arguably the best player in that league in 20-21, notching 24 goals and 11 assists, also leading the title winners in chances created. He definitely isn't going to thrive in all systems, as we are seeing under Tuchel and we also saw with Ole at United. But in the right system he has proved himself to be capable of top level performances. He also scored 25 in a season at Everton.
For me there is no question that he is a better player than Martial, if we're talking about who is the worst first choice United striker of recent years.
Well it kinda is considering how bad Italian teams have been in European competitions for over a decade. I don't know why some of you still live in the past when it comes to Serie A the league's been a shit show of quality for a very long time now which has been evident with the lack of talent in the national team.
As for Lukaku. He scored 15 penalty goals for Inter in his 2 seasons. Take those goals away and he's not even a 20 league goalscorer.
If your fans have supported him harder, he wouldn’t flop worse than a busted flush, right?
It may not be a golden generation, but they're European champions, so hardly a shower.
So were Greece.Means nothing when you can't even consistently qualify for the World cup
Yeah, but Greece didn't have players like Chiellini, Bonucci, Jorginho, Verratti, Chiesa etc...
Fairly shite though, int he?
He’s not a good footballer. He’s awful. Was awful at United. One of the worst players I’ve seen play for us since 1980s. He can score goals at points. Usually in batches but his ego is massive and as a result his confidence is paper thin. People say he was decent in his first season....he scored 16 league goals despite holding the team back being the focal point and having two spells of form where he didn’t score for months. An arsenal fan said he’s better than Martial? Not for us he wasn’t. He ruined the flow of the team. Despite the fact that neither has worked out, Martial has helped the team to play football where Lukaku hindered and both score a similar amount of league goals per season.
Lukaku scores goals against shite opposition. Chelsea got duped.
Lukaku scores goals against shite opposition. Chelsea got duped.
I hope he will play with Maguire one day, for a whole season or two. Then we can see who is the bigger man between them on twitter when they both fecked up in the same match.
In the first part of his second season with us Jose was in an uncharacteristically experimental mood and tried out various formations, presumably the main purpose being trying to work out how to get the best out of Lukaku.
We played a few games with him on the right of Martial in a two-up-front and it worked surprisingly well. I particularly remember it in a CL group game in Moscow, which we won 4-1 with Lukaku scoring twice and us playing some really nice football.
Of course it didn’t last. Jose being Jose angled for (and got) a contract extension and payrise soon afterwards and resorted to the dullest 4-2-3-1 imaginable. The signing of Alexis, CL knockout exit to Sevilla and cup final defeat to your lot completely killed the cautious optimism I was feeling earlier on.
Credit to ole, offloading him was definitely one of the better decisions he took , for 78 mil as well.
Why would Inter bring him back. Why oh why
Lukaku is one of the best players at the moment, football is about putting the ball in the back of the net and there are only a few who can match him in this regard, the problem are his teammates not knowing roles, he is the 9 and that means he should be supplied, they sabotage him preferring Havertz because Havertz allow them share the goal scoring glory.
Still can't believe we pulled that prank on someone.
Could we bring back Ole just for a day so he could sell Maguire to some schmucks in Italy again?
You think Lukaku is one of the best players in the prem at the moment?
Three different clubs have spent £75m, £70m and £98m on him. Just mind blowing.
Exactly, he's no Benzema or Lewa but he isn't that bad as some people think.
I mean he scored goals everywhere he went and he has a combination of unique qualities: speed, power, heading and finishing. He can certainly do better into a different system that would suit him, Tuchel is trying hard to make him look bad. Even this season he scored once in 3 games, which is his worst year for a long time.
We paid 80m for Harry we could have bought Lukaku all these 3 times and I wouldn't be surprised.
Of course, because he it doesn't show at the moment doesn't mean its not the case.
There are underlying reasons which isn't his fault.
ManUtd signed him after he had his best seasons -> Ended up as mixed bag and last season was hilariously bad.
Inter signed him after his (probably) worst ever season -> They had brilliant success with him in their team.
Chelsea signed him after his best career seasons --> like ManUtd second season, they got poor player.
So trick is to sign him after his shit season.
I love laughing at Big Rom as much as the next guy, but I will admit that I thought he would be a success at Chelsea. What they seemed to lacking last year was someone to get the goals against the smaller team and Lukaku has always done that well. I thought he would comfortably get 15 league goals and 25 in total.
In a joyless season, it is a small bright spot to see him pointing and moaning after bigging himself up as the next R9.
In a joyless season, it is a small bright spot to see him pointing and moaning after bigging himself up as the next R9.
Yeah think his physique doesn't suit his actual abilities, gives the impression that he should be playing as a target man trapping the ball and being strong, where as that's prob his weakest attributes.
Defo the sort of striker you would never buy to build your team around if you have serious plans to win major prizes. He's just so limited and frustrating as a player. His control is so poor, zero link up ability too, it's mental the amount of transfer money he has went for over his career must be a world record for total fees
The finishing is massively over cooked with him, either people see the goals scored and think top finisher and haven't actually watched the sort of chances he misses game to game
I think the key underlying reason is that he's nowhere close to being as talented as the most talented players in the league.