It has been going on for years. It just seems like it's becoming more normal now than ever before. Not just in football, same thing is happening in the NBA as well. Players are bigger than the teams in many situations, and their fans are following them around. The rise of the fantasy thing has also probably contributed to this.
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Really poor show from Lukaku when he came on. He looks slow, lazy and lacking any striking awareness. Must be a confidence thing but if someone offered £50mill now i'd snap their arm off.
I've never liked him. He's a hulking clutz never in control of his own body never mind a football. Doesn't want to run, No stamina, No intelligence, frustrates his teammates, deluded thick waste of money.
A snowflake of a child in a man's body. Get rid. Pogba is visibly sick of him. Rightly so.
A snowflake of a child in a man's body. Get rid. Pogba is visibly sick of him. Rightly so.
He just doesn’t have any finesse to his game, closes with the player and shoots from difficult angle. Just so uninspiring not to mention his lazy ass.
I think we should try to cut our losses in the summer.
Which begs the question of how he's raked up so many goals for Everton. He barely looks like a striker here, has completely lost all sense of identity. Either he's simply fallen off a cliff physically and mentally, or he requires very specific conditions to score goals, cause I'm just not seeing it. We seen glimpses in his first season here, but he's rarely scored any goals for us that any average PL striker couldn't.
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Not that any criticism should be attributed to this. I'm just saying that it seems like this kind of thing is happening much more than in the past. And if it is, then of course players who aren't favored by these fans aren't always gonna get treated the same.
I'm not really sure it's just kids who will grow out of it anymore. This phenomenon has been talked about quite a bit around different sports. You can see this happening in the NBA for example. One reason for it is that big players have more power and can force their way out of their team at will. I even notice that some of my friends who are football fans have interests geared more towards players than clubs.
Regarding Lukaku, yes he should be criticised but people go way over the top with it.
All the experts in this thread that are on the all time premiership scoring list
What's the point you're trying to make? Going by your logic you're not allowed to ever criticise a player because you're not a premiership player. Whereas a quick glance at your profile shows me that, yes, you have criticised premier league players before.
I thought he played OK when he came on.
People are being over critical with him. As if they're transferring all of the negative vibes from Ole etc for the performance onto Lukaku.
Is it his fault that only shot in target in the second half was his shot? Why is Lukaku getting the brunt of the criticism?
People are being over critical with him. As if they're transferring all of the negative vibes from Ole etc for the performance onto Lukaku.
Is it his fault that only shot in target in the second half was his shot? Why is Lukaku getting the brunt of the criticism?
I don't see why we couldn't try to play it backwards and keep possession there. If the players are gassed, that would make more sense than trying to play it forward and lose the ball. Then you have to defend again.
What he has done the whole season has nothing to do with this single performance. You are just proving my point that I have been making before. People are influenced by how they already see him when they judge any particular showing from him.
There was a point where we had lost possesion or something on the right side of Leicester's half and two of our players tried to put a bit of pressure on whoever was trying to control a slightly loose ball. At this point Lukaku should have tucked in to cover their left centre back forcing them to pass it all the way across to the right. Instead he was just hanging out by their right centre back giving them the easiest pass out in the world.
It's really basic stuff and something where you'd expect a tired player to be too exhausted to do it consistently but he came off the bench.
It's really basic stuff and something where you'd expect a tired player to be too exhausted to do it consistently but he came off the bench.
Yes strikers need to make some kind of move when the ball looks like it could come to them. He should have never got the ball there though. You could tell that he wasn't expecting that ball there, which is why he lost it.
The only place Sanchez needs to get going is out of the club. He’s finished in every semblance of the word. In a high pressure game like against PSG there’s no way he should be seeing any minutes.
At least Lukaku may produce something worthwhile in a match like that, with Sanchez it’s almost a given now that he won’t. Tragic decline for what was such a top class player.
The whole point is that he should be using his fresh legs to stretch the defence. We wanted the ball away from our own goal as far as possible- not close to it. The Leicester centre backs would've surely been on the back foot by that time and this is why fans was frustrated with his cameo.
He isn't getting the brunt of criticism for the performance. He is rightly getting criticised for showing no effort or desire when on the field. Rashford busted his guts out with a dead leg and this guy comes on and offers zero movement. No running off the ball. No desire to come to the ball. It was lazy. It was unacceptable.
Is this really necessary? Can you substantiate this? The commentary on aspects of Lukaku as a player I observe on here are simply out of order, riddled with underlying intent.
Very unlikely that we'll be able to manage that also.His form has to improve for us to be able to get even 50 million back
Bin him but stay away from Icardi.
Exactly this. Fans will be forgiving if he’s just in poor form, but he’s not even trying. He’s completely out of shape, and puts in no effort - that’s 100% on him, and he’s an utter disgrace.
How has a 25 year old professional athlete who has had no injuries turn into a fat lump of lard, it beggars belief.
I know, I know. I was being very optimistic, my head hurts only when I think about the guy.
He'd been on the pitch for 13 minutes.
The fact he wasn't expecting it is the problem. He's our centre forward and we were on the attack. He should be moving into space and practically screaming for the ball.
I meant against Fulham, but yeah...
The decision to change himself physically was an atrocious decision and is having a massive impact. He tried to change his physique to adapt his game and the basic principles which made him good in the first place have gone out the window. He's gone a step backwards and to go forwards he needs to take another step backwards aka write this season off in terms of objectives on the pitch, and work on himself off the pitch to become the Lukaku he was.
Even when he was going through rough patches with us at Everton he was never this bad. He'd have moments of laziness but it seems to be pretty much every game this season. I'm finding it hard to feel sorry for him too due to his complete contrast with what he shows on the pitch compared to the interviews he gives.
Even when he was going through rough patches with us at Everton he was never this bad. He'd have moments of laziness but it seems to be pretty much every game this season. I'm finding it hard to feel sorry for him too due to his complete contrast with what he shows on the pitch compared to the interviews he gives.
Very dissapointing recently.
Ahh my apologies, I saw a few posts around yours about the PSG match, I thought that was what you were referring to. Still, I would rather we give Lukaku the minutes on the RW than Sanchez and I barely rate the big man
Maybe if he spent less time vegetating in front of the TV and more time working on his fitness and technical ability he wouldn't be on the bench.
Yep. No agenda here.
When was the last time Lukaku had a goodish game and when was the last one when Lukaku had an amazing game?
I think this season is just a write off for him now, hopefully he gets back to his best next season and nothing to say he cant do that. The Lukaku that was beastly for Belgium in the WC is easily good enough to be part of our squad
That would be so depressing from him, if he would just give up when there's a season to be saved with quite a proper manager in a long time.
The only thing Ole/new one could do for him next season is to at least provide him with a winger and fullback who can find him with a clever cross/pass... or maybe the truth is Lukaku is not the type of Ole's striker just like Fellaini isn't his type of midfielder ?
I dont quite get the mentality behind it either but we've seen it before that players need the clean slate of a new season to find their groove again
Fecking tree can't move. Clearly we are trying to move towards something fluid and flexible, and everyone can understand that Lukaku won't be part of that.
Best thing is we can probably sell him within the PL, this means we'll fetch £50-60m.
Best thing is we can probably sell him within the PL, this means we'll fetch £50-60m.
I thought he pulled wide often enough and did well that way.
It depends what Ole told him to do. If he was meant to be the focal point and have the ball play off him to bring the midfield up then fair enough. It doesn't matter where Young points to. Making runs in behind doesn't do that.
We brought off Lingard and Rashford, isn't it safe to say Lukaku wasn't brought on to stretch the play?
The criticism is over the top IMO.
He should have come on for Lingard. Leave Rashford up front.
To put it bluntly, he’s not a very good centre forward, but as we saw vs Arsenal he was quite effective on the wing.
To put it bluntly, he’s not a very good centre forward, but as we saw vs Arsenal he was quite effective on the wing.
He actually did ok when he first came on, made runs, tried to close down defenders and held the ball up well. But the last 5 minutes was atrocious. He just stood still waiting for the ball to be played to him, looked knackered despite being a sub and made no effort.
Ole is being supportive publicly, as he is with the whole squad but privately he will know he's not right for this team, just like Fellaini and Mata.
Ole is being supportive publicly, as he is with the whole squad but privately he will know he's not right for this team, just like Fellaini and Mata.
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The guy disrespected Everton on a number of occasions. I never saw what the fuss was about with him, especially when he was acting like a big fish in a small pond at Everton. Fans were fed up of his lack of effort which translated into "I'm Lukaku. I'm too good to toil at Everton."
Then he comes out with spiel about being a student of the game, finishing defenders (carragher interview), how he's a strong player, how players are grown men and they should deal with criticism. Yet he's the biggest snowflake going who stops putting in any effort because he's been rightly demoted to the bench.
Thinking you're in good physical shape, thinking you're too good for Everton and then thinking you're above putting effort in at Manchester United is delusions on another level with his talent level.
For the forum to work we have to turn a blind eye to the fact that we know nothing and just play a pretend game that we aren't just couch potatos, but it was page after page there saying how he needs to put his body in here and make this run there and kick the ball with this technique... you don't have the career he has had while being a 'Fulham level' and the lack of humility on the forum makes me laugh at times
As Rashford spoke in post match yesterday , the age of pure strikers are gone. We need a versatile forward player that does not depend on wingbacks providing crosses into the box to score. Time to call it a day and move on from Lukaku. He'd still do well in a lot of teams who appreciate a good striker that keeps hitting goals when given the service. No hard feelings, just that more people fail the United test than ones passes.
Lack of talent is acceptable, lack of form is acceptable, but lack of effort isn't. He actually took a shot that was still in play and stood there like he was doing the lamppost challenge. Even Leicester players stopped because they were shattered giving him a free run to keep it in play and cause problems, but Lukaku who'd been on barely 5 minutes didn't have the desire or intelligence to chase after it until it was too late.
He'd be more useful on an airport runway where his pointing could help land planes.
I'd sell him and spend money on another attacker. Someone that can genuinely play across the line.
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