Get off the phone!
Roman Abramovich plans to sell Chelsea | SOLD for £4.25BN
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Get off the phone!
BS. There is a large contingent of people who are definitively out to get us. And people who stand by and take it are the wimps. If you allow people to use tragedy and necessary actions like sanctions to trample on the freedoms of innocent parties so they can carry out a separate agenda …. That’s just wrong.
Not sure how you could be bored. You’ve yet to address a single specific point I’ve made in any of the posts you’ve answered.
But here:
If America invaded somewhere without a broken treaty or provocation tomorrow, and the world rallied to condemn us… there is ZERO chance United fans wouldn’t be allowed to attend matches, even if the Glazers were frozen out.
Using an international crisis to take out a football challenger you dont like? THAT is pathetic.
The only law Roman has broken recently is the Russian law Putin enacted making it illegal to refer to his invasion as a war. Roman declared as such publicly when he promised the stewards of the sale would send the net proceeds to aid the “victims of the war in Ukraine.” through British and U.S. stewards.
Now the UK government is gonna keep that 2 billion or so, and then pledged to send 100 million to Ukraine in aid … talk about cowardly thieves. And no, don’t mention the 230 million pledge. Those are “loans” …. You guys want to set up money going to Ukraine as “loans” …. Gross
The glamorous attacks on a sporting team that has nothing to do with Russias tactical ability. They are meant to help mask things like still needing to beg Russia for fertilizer and other commodities, even with the oil ban. Fertilizer was just cut off … but by Russia refusing you. The UK was still begging for it. The level of reliance and helplessness… THAT is pathetic.
But if you print enough stories about a football club maybe people won’t notice, right?
How would you connect Wolf of Wall Street to old and established banking firms?
A great deal of the issue with the last plan though highlights a lot of the issue with how the club is being treated right now: they just didn’t want to be involved with Abramovich.
One of the last plans I saw taking it to 65k while adding non-impactful improvements to the entire shopping area around the stadium was a really well thought out design. They just didn’t want it from him. If an ownership group they approved of, that was allowed in their private clubs, etc , put forth that same plan… who knows, right?
Thank god Raine can hopefully seperate the shite from the good.
Chelsea ownership latest
SummaryGlobal investment firm Centricus launching bid
Says it wants to "maintain and support existing management"
Nick Candy also increased his bid on Monday
So much for deadlines
SummaryGlobal investment firm Centricus launching bid
Says it wants to "maintain and support existing management"
Nick Candy also increased his bid on Monday
So much for deadlines
They can do that all they want too, whether they're accepted is another matter. They could just be seeking publicity.
True,
I think what is apparent re all these high bids, is that everyone is failing to ignore the true value of the clubs worth and throwing stupid money at it, simply to own a London Premiership Club.
Roman should he ever get his assets back, potentially will do well from this in the long term.
I think we will now see, a bigger push from clubs to start wanting to control their own TV / Streaming deals going forward.
It's where the money is going to be, to keep these clubs getting bigger. Especially like Chelsea who are a smaller club by nature, but winning regularly big trophies, to maintain and extend a fan base. Especially as unlikely could expand the stadium significantly to keep up with its bigger London rivals and West Ham.
Oh, the Americans want in as they see two things happening. One is direct TV sales and/or a PL streaming service and the next is an further explosion of TV rights prices in the US and it potentially becoming the third biggest league over there.
Totally, and they will ultimately blackmail the Premier league in to making it happen eventually.
Like Fifa and Uefa, morals and standards are great for marketing, but behind the Scenes they are all slaves to the money, no matter where it comes from.
Premier League are no different.
This post is a great example of sportswashing par excellence in action, with added violins for requisite faux victim status.
You really are taking glory hunting to another level. The butcher Abramovic who is best pals with Putin, has bought trophies for you club with his blood money, violently stolen from the people of Russia in the brutally violent post Soviet carve up.
The butcher shamelessly tried to bullshit the world that he'd been invited to broker peace by Ukraine which was an absolute pack of lies that your Club's PR gormlessly swallowed and fed the press. Chelsea fc and the butcher owner shamelessly exploited the horrific invasion of Ukraine by his political ally Putin to promote their self interest. Talk about "using, an international crisis to take" advantage, by sending out lies to the press that he was asked to be the peace maker. Just shows the extent of his pathologically bloated ego. His blood money has certainly pulled the wool over Chelsea fan's eyes.
As for "trample on the freedoms of innocent parties so they can carry out a separate agenda", this is a shameful and utterly cynical opportunistic playing of the victim card. Cheksea are not at all innocent in this, on fact "trampling on innocents so they can carry out an agenda" is precisely what Chelsea represents under Abramovic. Trampling on the Russian people to carry out his ownership of Chelsea for the sake of sportswashing and his protection racket.
No one is out to get you as a club but when you make a pact with evil and sell your soul to blood monet you will have a price to pay eventually.
Abramovic is rightly stripped of his assets. I would strip Chelsea of any silverware he's bought fir the club too. And no, no one is out to get Cheksea. I would kick out Mansour too and strip City of their ill gained trophies for the sake of sportswashing the brutal, human rights abusing regime.
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Perhaps. You could definitely feel the negativity from the government and every one of the mayors of London for each and every idea we put forward. Heck they even sold off Battersea to the Malaysians over a London based football club.
In contrast there’s countless instances where a city has helped a football club with relocation or redevelopment.
For me personally, unless we get a new owner the Government approves of I just don’t have hope for us.
The bolded is already happening. Living here as I have for the last 14 years the growth in interest in the PL has been staggering and during this current season NBC renegotiated their deal to keep the PL rights for another 5 years at double the price of the last deal and more critically opted to walk away from the NHL and essentially make the PL the centerpiece of their sports strategy going forward, NFL Sunday Night football notwithstanding. NBC further monetized the deal by shifting most of the games onto their Peacock streaming platform and they have confirmed that PL games are far and away the single biggest driver of new subscribers. The next deal will be negotiated around the same time as the 2026 World Cup and the figures involved are likely to be mindblowing and it is almost a certainty the PL will follow the NFL model and try to maximize profit by selling packages of games to multiple networks.
How long before PL matches are being played in USA?
No chance.
I would imagine that is some way off but it could happen. NFL teams coming to London have the advantage of only playing a 17 game schedule unless they make the playoffs and getting a bye week after an overseas game so a 14 day gap between games. The PL would need to significantly cut down on the games in its schedule to make this work and I don't see them going for it. If enough money gets pushed into the middle of the table though we know the owners would take it and the more clubs run by Americans the more likely it becomes.
Brilliant post .This post is a great example of sportswashing par excellence in action, with added violins for requisite faux victim status.
You really are taking glory hunting to another level. The butcher Abramovic who is best pals with Putin, has bought trophies for you club with his blood money, violently stolen from the people of Russia in the brutally violent post Soviet carve up.
The butcher shamelessly tried to bullshit the world that he'd been invited to broker peace by Ukraine which was an absolute pack of lies that your Club's PR gormlessly swallowed and fed the press. Chelsea fc and the butcher owner shamelessly exploited the horrific invasion of Ukraine by his political ally Putin to promote their self interest. Talk about "using, an international crisis to take" advantage, by sending out lies to the press that he was asked to be the peace maker. Just shows the extent of his pathologically bloated ego. His blood money has certainly pulled the wool over Chelsea fan's eyes.
As for "trample on the freedoms of innocent parties so they can carry out a separate agenda", this is a shameful and utterly cynical opportunistic playing of the victim card. Cheksea are not at all innocent in this, on fact "trampling on innocents so they can carry out an agenda" is precisely what Chelsea represents under Abramovic. Trampling on the Russian people to carry out his ownership of Chelsea for the sake of sportswashing and his protection racket.
No one is out to get you as a club but when you make a pact with evil and sell your soul to blood monet you will have a price to pay eventually.
Abramovic is rightly stripped of his assets. I would strip Chelsea of any silverware he's bought fir the club too. And no, no one is out to get Cheksea. I would kick out Mansour too and strip City of their ill gained trophies for the sake of sportswashing the brutal, human rights abusing regime.
Oh, for sure, I am UK based but I follow a lot of US Sports Media coverage due to the NFL and the PL has certainly picked up significantly in this regard; this is also supported by viewing figures, participation in sports etc.
Additionally, like you said, the deal signed a few weeks back is mega. However, it is still a drop in the ocean compared to what will come next if the growth rate continues. One thing the PL has in it's favour is timings as it doesn't clash with the US sports and is being marketed as 'morning sports' (or so I am led to believe from my reading.) That is why their is so much interest in Chelsea from the US as those Billionaires see massive growth potential in the worlds biggest consumer market. I mean, it isn't just the TV rights, but also all the merchandise that goes with it.
*however, one question for you aside from this. How big is the concussion scandal in the US on a ground level with kids? I ask as I have seen that one of the reasons for the pick up in football/soccer's popularity is owing to parents starting to move their children away from AF to soccer, but I am never sure how believable it all is.
I can say that school level American Football is as popular as it always has been. There were parent concerns over the concussions and the NFL and youth sports responded quickly with "heads up tackling" If you drop your helmet to make a tackle, it is panelized in youth football even more than professional. I don't think all this has reduced concussions significantly, but it has reassured parents.
It is a massive driver of the interest in all honesty. My oldest is in High School and plays on the "soccer" team and the change has been evident since he started playing at around 4 years old. Initially, for boys at least as the girls game has been big here for a while, he was playing with kids who would be considered unathletic and really had no other options for sport. In the last 3 or 4 years more and more of the truly athletic kids have been switching sports and although the rising popularity of the game on TV helps a lot of it is being driven by parents not wanting their kids playing American Football due to the injury concerns. This season one of the star receivers for the football team quit and switched to soccer for this reason even knowing that his chances of a paid college scholarship would be taking a hit by switching sports.
According to the Athletic, Abramovich still has a say in the process and it is understood Raine has been instructed to select the best bid, not necessarily the biggest.
They say Abramovich wants Chelsea to go to a group or individual with a proven track record, a vision for the club and easy access to funds.
That probably means the Boehly group and one of the other US sports team owners (Cubs, Jets, Kings, Clippers etc) stand a decent chance.
They say Abramovich wants Chelsea to go to a group or individual with a proven track record, a vision for the club and easy access to funds.
That probably means the Boehly group and one of the other US sports team owners (Cubs, Jets, Kings, Clippers etc) stand a decent chance.
Boehly seems the best to me of those. The scariest part is Woody is a single bid, he owns all the wealth. Do not want Woody or the Ricketts.
Added to that Woody has a ton of political connections in the UK Government from his time as an Ambassador and you just know he will have them on the payroll and trying to put their thumb on the scale.
Boehly seem like the best of the bunch to me too, but I say that whilst acknowledging that everything we know about each of the bidders has been fed to us via PR campaigns.
They are not best pals. The guy you people keep saying was Romans “best pal” was strangled to death in a shower by Putin.This post is a great example of sportswashing par excellence in action, with added violins for requisite faux victim status.
You really are taking glory hunting to another level. The butcher Abramovic who is best pals with Putin, has bought trophies for you club with his blood money, violently stolen from the people of Russia in the brutally violent post Soviet carve up.
The butcher shamelessly tried to bullshit the world that he'd been invited to broker peace by Ukraine which was an absolute pack of lies that your Club's PR gormlessly swallowed and fed the press. Chelsea fc and the butcher owner shamelessly exploited the horrific invasion of Ukraine by his political ally Putin to promote their self interest. Talk about "using, an international crisis to take" advantage, by sending out lies to the press that he was asked to be the peace maker. Just shows the extent of his pathologically bloated ego. His blood money has certainly pulled the wool over Chelsea fan's eyes.
As for "trample on the freedoms of innocent parties so they can carry out a separate agenda", this is a shameful and utterly cynical opportunistic playing of the victim card. Cheksea are not at all innocent in this, on fact "trampling on innocents so they can carry out an agenda" is precisely what Chelsea represents under Abramovic. Trampling on the Russian people to carry out his ownership of Chelsea for the sake of sportswashing and his protection racket.
No one is out to get you as a club but when you make a pact with evil and sell your soul to blood monet you will have a price to pay eventually.
Abramovic is rightly stripped of his assets. I would strip Chelsea of any silverware he's bought fir the club too. And no, no one is out to get Cheksea. I would kick out Mansour too and strip City of their ill gained trophies for the sake of sportswashing the brutal, human rights abusing regime.
All of Putins “best pals” got to keep their assets and grow them and were members of Putins Daschow, see: Oleg Deripaska. Abramovich is none of those things. In fact, Two full rounds of identifying people who should be sanctioned went by and Roman was cleared on both.
I didn’t even really want to rehash the whole Roman thing, but I do feel obligated to point out an independent group has verified that the SOLE justification given by the UK for his sanction in the first place has been proven untrue (Evraz building Russian tanks).
But the real reason your post is BS is you are again juxtaposing crimes Putin is committing … to a football club and it’s supporters. Your country is keeping the funds that should have gone to Ukraine, and the behavior by the FA has not only been shameful, it has had some of the very best lawyers in the U.S., especially the ones attached to Boehly going “what are you doing?? And WHY do you think your in your rights to do it?”
People like you don’t care about Ukraine, or the truth.
A lot of the major players here are using phrases like “Rotten Football Club” … in PUBLIC. They are going out of their way to make sure commodities and employees from other businesses whose Russian investors were sanctioned. But with Chelsea they are more worried about whether Man United can scalp their coach, or another team can steal a player they want.
You, like the rest of them, know this is true: you just don’t care.So yes, your line about having morals, or ethics is BS.
Chelsea is a fully isolated UK entity, with no possible way of contributing to Russian finance, due to be sold in a matter of days. Things like not allowing fans in matches is purely punitive as the people driving this are people like you trying to force an outright collapse. Thankfully, in increments, there have been people who understand the law, and decency, starting to stand up to them.
"Thankfully, in increments, there have been people who understand the law, and decency, starting to stand up to them."
More ridiculous, sportswashed, victim-card playing. There is nothing law-abiding ley alone decent about the corrupt butcher Abramovic and the tinpots he's been allowed purchase for his Chelsea project, with his blood money.
Of course there should be punitive measures.
The club should be stripped of all trophies bought with the butchers blood money and made to compete on the same financial level as all lawful, decent businesses.
I repeat this is not directed specifically at Chelsea. No, the same standards should be applied to all of our clubs. That means soecifically City too. Mansour and his sportswashing bloodmoney project at City needs kicking out of our football league and any trophies he has purchased should be stripped off City.
The Saudis at Newcastle too need to go.
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Given that Chelsea fans have been singing Abramovich's name, on what basis are they opposed to this Ricketts? Is he even worse??
I don't know that the ones that have been signing Roman's name are opposed? The fans that are opposed is because Joe Ricketts has a history of Islamophobic and racist statements. He is the person in the family trust that has all the wealth.
I don't see this happening in the next decade minimum.
Let's be honest, they're opposed cause they know he's cut from the same cloth as the Glazers and would make Chelsea shit. If his name was Mohammed bin Rick Al Saud with 200bn behind him then Chelsea fans would be foaming at the mouth for him.
Some are, some aren't.
Rich Al Saud would’ve made it perfectIt should be the highest bidder, unless the premiership deems them unsuitable owners, that's how i't'll work for all other clubs been sold, I'm struggling to understand why Chelsea whould be treated any different. This even more so given where the money should ultimately be ending up.
As far as RA is concerned the club might as just as well be given away to the 'best bidder', and let them spend the money on the stadium and players instead, he'd be even more of hero to Chelsea fans then, but I'd like to think given he is a sanctioned man, he will have no say in this at all.
Who would want the Glazers 2.0?
I don't think anyone would buy a club for 2bn to act like Kreonke and Glazers.
Ofcourse there's a chance of gross incompetence (a major problem if we get Woody) but that's another argument.
It's different because Chelsea haven't fallen into administration and therefore the government isn't directly handling the sale. They essentially have veto power but unless someone truly reprehensible is picked it's hard to see how they'd justify rejecting someone like Boehly for Ricketts if the difference in bid size isn't enormous.
It depends what you mean, if it's a few grand then I suppose it doesn't matter really, but it won't be, we'll be talking about tens of millions, which is massive for where it is hopefully going to end up going, which is why it should be the highest bidder.
And tbf I doubt any of the bidders are that bad for you, not RA for sure, but nothing like what we've got.
That's definitely a fair point. I suppose it remains to be seen how this all might work in terms of bids being adjusted - and also how this money would be utilised. If it's the Tories who are dispersing it, frankly I'd rather have a better owner at a discount as I've no faith it'd get to where it's needed.
I think Woody Johnson and the Ricketts would be just as bad as the Glazers frankly. The Glazers at least have shown a willingness to push for success in the NFL, unlike Johnson. And the fact that the Cubs ended their 108 year championship drought under the Ricketts yet most of the fanbase wants to see the back of them is telling. They're nowhere near as competent as FSG, for instance.
If I was a Chelsea fan I would too, but as a oppo fan if Chelsea end up getting an owner that is 'happy to have fans on the board', build a new stadium, has lots of money to spend, etc, but higher bids were rejected by a Glazer lite type owner, or the Saudi bid, on the grounds of 'it wasn't right for Chelsea', then you have to admit that it won't sit right at all, when Newcastle have just had the worst of the worst approved, and no one who could have done anything about it batted an eyelid when we were just about robbed blind by the Glazers.
If Chelsea get decent owners who are paying the most money then fair enough, will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Oh I can completely appreciate that perspective. That said, I think it'd cost something like £1 billion to even just redevelop Stamford Bridge - if my memory serves from what Abramovich was proposing a few years ago. Certainly there shouldn't be a difference in bids approaching that magnitude.
Suppose it just depends where the line is drawn - and everyone will probably have a different tolerance for what they consider acceptable.