Roman Abramovich plans to sell Chelsea | SOLD for £4.25BN

Judas said:
This place has a bizarre hate for England, it rears its ugly head sadly far too often, it's an English football team forum for heavens sake.
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Some Chelsea fans using British Empire crimes to justify Roman, might as well mention the Ottoman Empire, Imperial Japan, etc to give Roman a pass.

Thing is UK doesn't own a team.
 
VivaRonaldo85 said:
Impressive from Chelsea given everything going on off the pitch.
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Chelsea have actually created a siege mentality after the Roman stuff. Our players would have fallen apart if we were sanctioned. There is a real difference in mentality of the players.
 
Dr. StrangeHate said:
Chelsea have actually created a siege mentality after the Roman stuff. Our players would have fallen apart if we were sanctioned. There is a real difference in mentality of the players.
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Tuchel has been very impressive. He has been the only voice and has shielded the players from the media. He even tried to draw attention away from that awful appeal to have no fans at today’s game. He has really got the players to buy in to we will do our best for the club and each other by training and being ready for each game. Complete focus on the football.

I hope when all of this is finished he is rewarded with a long contract.
 
Cutiepatootie said:
This kind of confused geopolitical and historical whataboutery is simply sportswashing at it's most cynical in action.
The atrocities commited by the British Empire and by imperialist capital in general, from the genocide of aboriginal peoples of Australia and the Americas and the slaughter and enslavery of Africans, to the great 'Famines' in Ireland and India, none of these atrocitues should of course ever be forgotten and economic advantages gained through the butchery and pillage should be recognised and reparations paid.

Nonetheless the British empire does not own one of our clubs today to whitewash its' barbarism. Chelsea was owned by the butcher Abramovic and City are owned by the barbaric state of the UAE. Both are examples of blatant corrupt, oligarchic blood money being used to buy trophys for clubs in order to whitewash the image of their real brutal status.

Chelsea supporters and especially City supporters ( with their " don't give a feck" where the blood money comes from" attitude) have been clearly weaponised by the brutal oligarchs, having swallowed the sportswashing propaganda. Grown men, City fans who choose to defend their owners corrupt project, are in fact cheerleading the horrific human rights abuses and the slaughter of innocents in Yemen today.

There is a time and a place to criticise the British empires violence and theft of other people's resources. If the UK owned one of our clubs for sportswashing purposes then yes we would be right to slate British imperialist violence here. But the UK does not own Chelsea or City or any other club.

Now that Abramovich has rightly been kicked out of football, let's concentrate on getting rid of other sportswashing blood money owners too.

So let's stick to highlighting the City sportswashing project that is pumping in billions to hide the reality of their brutal regime. Please Google Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch for details.

The brutal regimes of the UAE and now Saudi Arabia at Newcastle too should never have been allowed ownershio of any of our football clubs. We football fans need to to do all we can to get the horrific human rights abusing regimes out of football.
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Good post.

The fact Abramovich was allowed to own the club for nearly 2 decades without question from the UK government or regulators is a massive problem that needs sorting.

Today agree re: City's and Newcastle blood money too. It needs to be regulated against and reviewed.

It won't rhough because the UK is desperate for oil and our government is just as corrupt as the best of them.
 
Dr. StrangeHate said:
Chelsea have actually created a siege mentality after the Roman stuff. Our players would have fallen apart if we were sanctioned. There is a real difference in mentality of the players.
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Agreed. Using adversity as a tool for success. Probably because their team is full of characters. To go to Lille and Boro and win both shows true grit and professionalism, something you couldn’t associate with the bunch of charlatans at United at the moment.
 
Dr. StrangeHate said:
Chelsea have actually created a siege mentality after the Roman stuff. Our players would have fallen apart if we were sanctioned. There is a real difference in mentality of the players.
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Our players fall apart receiving £250k per week
 
Cutiepatootie said:
This kind of confused geopolitical and historical whataboutery is simply sportswashing at it's most cynical in action.
The atrocities commited by the British Empire and by imperialist capital in general, from the genocide of aboriginal peoples of Australia and the Americas and the slaughter and enslavery of Africans, to the great 'Famines' in Ireland and India, none of these atrocitues should of course ever be forgotten and economic advantages gained through the butchery and pillage should be recognised and reparations paid.

Nonetheless the British empire does not own one of our clubs today to whitewash its' barbarism. Chelsea was owned by the butcher Abramovic and City are owned by the barbaric state of the UAE. Both are examples of blatant corrupt, oligarchic blood money being used to buy trophys for clubs in order to whitewash the image of their real brutal status.

Chelsea supporters and especially City supporters ( with their " don't give a feck" where the blood money comes from" attitude) have been clearly weaponised by the brutal oligarchs, having swallowed the sportswashing propaganda. Grown men, City fans who choose to defend their owners corrupt project, are in fact cheerleading the horrific human rights abuses and the slaughter of innocents in Yemen today.

There is a time and a place to criticise the British empires violence and theft of other people's resources. If the UK owned one of our clubs for sportswashing purposes then yes we would be right to slate British imperialist violence here. But the UK does not own Chelsea or City or any other club.

Now that Abramovich has rightly been kicked out of football, let's concentrate on getting rid of other sportswashing blood money owners too.

So let's stick to highlighting the City sportswashing project that is pumping in billions to hide the reality of their brutal regime. Please Google Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch for details.

The brutal regimes of the UAE and now Saudi Arabia at Newcastle too should never have been allowed ownershio of any of our football clubs. We football fans need to to do all we can to get the horrific human rights abusing regimes out of football.
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Excellent post
 
Cutiepatootie said:
This kind of confused geopolitical and historical whataboutery is simply sportswashing at it's most cynical in action.
The atrocities commited by the British Empire and by imperialist capital in general, from the genocide of aboriginal peoples of Australia and the Americas and the slaughter and enslavery of Africans, to the great 'Famines' in Ireland and India, none of these atrocitues should of course ever be forgotten and economic advantages gained through the butchery and pillage should be recognised and reparations paid.

Nonetheless the British empire does not own one of our clubs today to whitewash its' barbarism. Chelsea was owned by the butcher Abramovic and City are owned by the barbaric state of the UAE. Both are examples of blatant corrupt, oligarchic blood money being used to buy trophys for clubs in order to whitewash the image of their real brutal status.

Chelsea supporters and especially City supporters ( with their " don't give a feck" where the blood money comes from" attitude) have been clearly weaponised by the brutal oligarchs, having swallowed the sportswashing propaganda. Grown men, City fans who choose to defend their owners corrupt project, are in fact cheerleading the horrific human rights abuses and the slaughter of innocents in Yemen today.

There is a time and a place to criticise the British empires violence and theft of other people's resources. If the UK owned one of our clubs for sportswashing purposes then yes we would be right to slate British imperialist violence here. But the UK does not own Chelsea or City or any other club.

Now that Abramovich has rightly been kicked out of football, let's concentrate on getting rid of other sportswashing blood money owners too.

So let's stick to highlighting the City sportswashing project that is pumping in billions to hide the reality of their brutal regime. Please Google Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch for details.

The brutal regimes of the UAE and now Saudi Arabia at Newcastle too should never have been allowed ownershio of any of our football clubs. We football fans need to to do all we can to get the horrific human rights abusing regimes out of football.
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Do you see the fundamental flaw in your post?

Most of the points you raise are valid, though.
 
Wolf1992 said:
Some Chelsea fans using British Empire crimes to justify Roman, might as well mention the Ottoman Empire, Imperial Japan, etc to give Roman a pass.

Thing is UK doesn't own a team.
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Russia doesn’t own a team either.

Roman agreed, even before the sanctions, to sell the team for the good of the club.

But he has never been convicted of a crime that I’m aware of.

You are literally saying don’t tie the British owners in with the UK, because the UK doesn’t own a football team … then turning around and tying Roman to everything Putin does, and treating the team like they were owned by Russia.
 
Bluelion7 said:
Russia doesn’t own a team either.

Roman agreed, even before the sanctions, to sell the team for the good of the club.

But he has never been convicted of a crime that I’m aware of.

You are literally saying don’t tie the British owners in with the UK, because the UK doesn’t own a football team … then turning around and tying Roman to everything Putin does, and treating the team like they were owned by Russia.
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You're completely missing the point. People who defend Abramovic by bringing up the fact that the British empire has a brutally violent history so therefore no one can criticise Abramovic, are setting up a straw man.
The UK simply does not own one of our clubs.
The oligarch butcher Abramovic did own Chelsea and was rightly stripped of his ill gained assets. The British Empire which was indeed a brutal violent empire is not even part of this conversation.

Abramovic's close political connection with Putin, his buddy, is undeniable. He even personally funded the sportswashing propaganda for the Russian world Cup. But in reality Abramovic's thug blood money should never have been allowed ownership of one of our clubs in the first place. The fact that his mate Putin decided to invade Ukraine put the UK govt in a situation where they were forced to act.

All oligarchic blood money should be kicked out of football. That means City and Saudi's owners next.
 
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I read that Todd Boehly has Clearlake Capital behind him and goldman Sachs, the American bank.

Not surprised he upped his bid, thats serious backing.

Think he will be shortlisted along with Coe/Broughton, Ken Griffin, Saudi's or an unknown [ centricus]
 
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Fluctuation0161 said:
Good post.

The fact Abramovich was allowed to own the club for nearly 2 decades without question from the UK government or regulators is a massive problem that needs sorting.

Today agree re: City's and Newcastle blood money too. It needs to be regulated against and reviewed.

It won't rhough because the UK is desperate for oil and our government is just as corrupt as the best of them.
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Except you can't prove beyond doubt Abramovich is guilty.

If you do, that means you turn a blind eye all these years.

Catch .22

If this is Ukraine's rich people asset being frozen by the Russian we would have called it robbery
 
WeePat said:
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This is nonesense, if Chelsea could develop in a manner like the Dippers it would've been done already. The SB site is too boxed in (with only one exit) to expand in this manner. Only way they can get more people in is to dig down and create new exits over the railway lines.
 
Dave Smith said:
This is nonesense, if Chelsea could develop in a manner like the Dippers it would've been done already. The SB site is too boxed in (with only one exit) to expand in this manner. Only way they can get more people in is to dig down and create new exits over the railway lines.
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Yeah this is what Abramovich had planned to do before those plans were shelved by visa issues.

Everything coming out of these potential new owners just sounds like lip service at the moment, but I feel good about the Boehly group. Either way, the stadium issue is at the top of the agenda of every potential buyer and that is good to see. How it all pans out when the new owners get their feet under the table obviously remains to be seen.
 
Cutiepatootie said:
This kind of confused geopolitical and historical whataboutery is simply sportswashing at it's most cynical in action.
The atrocities commited by the British Empire and by imperialist capital in general, from the genocide of aboriginal peoples of Australia and the Americas and the slaughter and enslavery of Africans, to the great 'Famines' in Ireland and India, none of these atrocitues should of course ever be forgotten and economic advantages gained through the butchery and pillage should be recognised and reparations paid.

Nonetheless the British empire does not own one of our clubs today to whitewash its' barbarism. Chelsea was owned by the butcher Abramovic and City are owned by the barbaric state of the UAE. Both are examples of blatant corrupt, oligarchic blood money being used to buy trophys for clubs in order to whitewash the image of their real brutal status.

Chelsea supporters and especially City supporters ( with their " don't give a feck" where the blood money comes from" attitude) have been clearly weaponised by the brutal oligarchs, having swallowed the sportswashing propaganda. Grown men, City fans who choose to defend their owners corrupt project, are in fact cheerleading the horrific human rights abuses and the slaughter of innocents in Yemen today.

There is a time and a place to criticise the British empires violence and theft of other people's resources. If the UK owned one of our clubs for sportswashing purposes then yes we would be right to slate British imperialist violence here. But the UK does not own Chelsea or City or any other club.

Now that Abramovich has rightly been kicked out of football, let's concentrate on getting rid of other sportswashing blood money owners too.

So let's stick to highlighting the City sportswashing project that is pumping in billions to hide the reality of their brutal regime. Please Google Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch for details.

The brutal regimes of the UAE and now Saudi Arabia at Newcastle too should never have been allowed ownershio of any of our football clubs. We football fans need to to do all we can to get the horrific human rights abusing regimes out of football.
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The best post on this subject.
 
NoLogo said:
So, have they found a buyer? And how long can they still pay the players wages if Abramovich's assets remain frozen?
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There's multiple buyers found. Just gotta pick one now. Rumours are by the end of the week we'll know who it is.

The chairman said we've got enough money to see out the season if the sanctions do stay in place.
 
duffer said:
There's multiple buyers found. Just gotta pick one now. Rumours are by the end of the week we'll know who it is.

The chairman said we've got enough money to see out the season if the sanctions do stay in place.
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Thanks for the quick answer, any favorites emerging? On another note, how do they even pay Abramovich if he can't do business?
 
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Fluctuation0161 said:
Good post.

The fact Abramovich was allowed to own the club for nearly 2 decades without question from the UK government or regulators is a massive problem that needs sorting.

Today agree re: City's and Newcastle blood money too. It needs to be regulated against and reviewed.

It won't rhough because the UK is desperate for oil and our government is just as corrupt as the best of them.
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Without question? He has been through multiple audits, investigations related to finances going to the team, cases in international court where he challenged people defaming and accusing him, and a full forensic accounting of Chelseas operations, especially our loan system, and it was ALL above board. He won every case. our club, and the best Academy in England, run very well.

It isn’t just that there’s nothing saying the money Ronan acquired to purchase the club wasn’t illegal… he has literally won court cases adjudicated by international bodies verifying just that.

Being Russian wasn’t illegal until 3 weeks ago, and he had already made preparations to sell the club by then.

Almost every single one of these attacking rants barely or never even mention Ukraine. They are based on the idea that Chelsea should have been destroyed a long time ago. People who disregard the law to form mobs based solely on oppo football wishes … just bad people.
 
Bluelion7 said:
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Without question? He has been through multiple audits, investigations related to finances going to the team, cases in international court where he challenged people defaming and accusing him, and a full forensic accounting of Chelseas operations, especially our loan system, and it was ALL above board. He won every case. our club, and the best Academy in England, run very well.

It isn’t just that there’s nothing saying the money Ronan acquired to purchase the club wasn’t illegal… he has literally won court cases adjudicated by international bodies verifying just that.

Being Russian wasn’t illegal until 3 weeks ago, and he had already made preparations to sell the club by then.

Almost every single one of these attacking rants barely or never even mention Ukraine. They are based on the idea that Chelsea should have been destroyed a long time ago. People who disregard the law to form mobs based solely on oppo football wishes … just bad people.
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This please feel sorry for us, everyone is out to get us, narrative is becoming rather boring now and if I’m being honest quite pathetic.

You would be as well knocking it on the head.
 
Bluelion7 said:
It isn’t just that there’s nothing saying the money Ronan acquired to purchase the club wasn’t illegal… he has literally won court cases adjudicated by international bodies verifying just that.

Being Russian wasn’t illegal until 3 weeks ago, and he had already made preparations to sell the club by then.

Almost every single one of these attacking rants barely or never even mention Ukraine. They are based on the idea that Chelsea should have been destroyed a long time ago. People who disregard the law to form mobs based solely on oppo football wishes … just bad people.
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Did he also say life is a rollercoaster just got to ride it? Our Ronan?

By the way officially you don’t even have the best academy in England let alone Europe or the rest of the world.
 
NoLogo said:
Thanks for the quick answer, any favorites emerging? On another note, how do they even pay Abramovich if he can't do business?
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Boehly for me, seems to have the background in running a good outfit, and not bleeding them dry, wants to invest, has enormous backing behind him, and says all the right things [which is partly PR, yes]

I think he will be forwarded as one of the 3-4 options. along with Centricus, Griffin/Ricketts, and perhaps SMG/Coe-Broughton/unknown, although the Seb Coe bid is now in jeopardy because one of the backers is involved with Palace, Joshua Harris. I really dont see Nick Candy making it


Centricus have a good shot because they're all ST holders at the bridge so will want the best for Chelsea. One of the group worked with UEFA to help clubs get through covid, another member who is a hedge fund manager had his own firm bankroll the redevelopment of or around Wembley, and a 3rd helped save local grassroots teams from going bust. You could see why they'd be worth considering
 
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The BBC

Global investment firm Centricus is funding another British bid to buy Chelsea, saying it wants to "maintain and support existing management".

The Premier League club was put up for sale by Russian owner Roman Abramovich before he was sanctioned following his country's invasion of Ukraine.
This latest bid, backed by Centricus - which has £29bn in assets - features several Chelsea season-ticket holders.
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WeePat said:
These are group of bankers and financiers who are also Chelsea ST holders, yes?
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From the Mail
Centricus, a London-based asset management firm, has joined forces with Jonathan Lourie of Cheyne Capital and Talis Capital's Bob Finch, previously majority shareholder of FC Nordsjaelland in Denmark, to submit an offer prior to Friday night's deadline.

Lourie, Finch, Centricus' co-founder Nizar Al-Bassam and the firm's chief executive officer Garth Ritchie are all season-ticket holders at Stamford Bridge.
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Father of the Rickett's family is flying to London to meet the Chelsea Supporter trust and the CPO, I assume that would indicate him and Ken Griffin have made the shortlist. Although weirdly, the father is not involved in the bid...
 
ZolaWasMagic said:
Father of the Rickett's family is flying to London to meet the Chelsea Supporter trust and the CPO, I assume that would indicate him and Ken Griffin have made the shortlist. Although weirdly, the father is not involved in the bid...
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Read somewhere in the Guardian, the father isn't involved in the bid
 
WeePat said:
Yeah this is what Abramovich had planned to do before those plans were shelved by visa issues.

Everything coming out of these potential new owners just sounds like lip service at the moment, but I feel good about the Boehly group. Either way, the stadium issue is at the top of the agenda of every potential buyer and that is good to see. How it all pans out when the new owners get their feet under the table obviously remains to be seen.
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Regarding the stadium, the best possible course of action is to leave Stamford Bridge. They have explored alternative options but I don’t see them being viable, if at all possible. The government has obstructed the club in the process as well, highlighting further problems. This is even before mentioning the CPO which becomes another issue for the club.
 
This Centricus firm apparently oversees $38 billion worth of assets. They have less than 1,000 followers on LinkedIn and 2 Google reviews, one of which is a 1 star review from a person with a Wolves crest profile picture. :lol:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/centricus/

The whole thing seems very fishy with so many unknowns. God help up if this bunch of unknowns are chosen.
 
P-Ro said:
This Centricus firm apparently oversees $38 billion worth of assets. They have less than 1,000 followers on LinkedIn and 2 Google reviews, one of which is a 1 star review from a person with a Wolves crest profile picture. :lol:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/centricus/

The whole thing seems very fishy with so many unknowns. God help up if this bunch of unknowns are chosen.
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Private equity firm. It's a load of ex-Goldman/Deutsche bankers.

They'll be great. You've seen The Wolf of Wall Street, right?
 
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