Roman Abramovich plans to sell Chelsea | SOLD for £4.25BN

TheReligion said:
Would you want another questionable owner?
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Not sure id take the Saudi's. Unless there is absolutely no link to Saudi govt, which im not sure of, i dont really follow the Saudi govt ins and outs

Frontrunner is still Boehly/Wyss/Goldstein IMO.
Candy's bid i just dont think will come off.
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Dave Smith said:
Well if that is the case, then it may end up being another Saudi owner.
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Roman s condition to Raine group is politically problematic person should not get the club. So Turkish person won't be qualified. Saudi group I don't know but any way government have to okay the person. Then only sale process will go through. So it will not be much problematic this time in my opinion
 
Rajiztar said:
Roman s condition to Raine group is politically problematic person should not get the club. So Turkish person won't be qualified. Saudi group I don't know but any way government have to okay the person. Then only sale process will go through. So it will not be much problematic this time in my opinion
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Our govt arent involved in who can or cant buy the club, theyll get involved once Raine group ask for the license to complete sale, [once preferred bidder chosen]. and of course to make sure funds go nowhere near Abramovich's accounts
 
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Gandalf said:
The PL has to sign off on it though and I would doubt they want to run the risk of more negative attention. It will more likely be one of the American consortiums because despite everything they are politically safe.
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Heh. You funny
 
ZolaWasMagic said:
Not sure id take the Saudi's. Unless there is absolutely no link to Saudi govt, which im not sure of, i dont really follow the Saudi govt ins and outs

Frontrunner is still Boehly/Wyss/Goldstein IMO.
Candy's bid i just dont think will come off.
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Does it matter who the highest bidder is if nobody is getting the money?
 
cyberman said:
Does it matter who the highest bidder is if nobody is getting the money?
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may well do in Raine's decision making. along with outlines for future. Only outline road map we have seen was from Candy and Saudi's, admittedly
 
None of this makes any sense to be honest. Sanction Abramovich (bit shaky there but whatever)... Why can't Chelsea sell tickets again?

But this is my fault for finding logic in a PR motivated crusade
 
adexkola said:
None of this makes any sense to be honest. Sanction Abramovich (bit shaky there but whatever)... Why can't Chelsea sell tickets again?

But this is my fault for finding logic in a PR motivated crusade
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I don't think we should be allowed to sell them, but I do think it's ridiculous that we have been denied the ability to give them away for free.
 
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Rajiztar said:
Sorry mate bit late have to finish of evening shift for my friend . I think this is well thought out strategy by club to apply closed door game for game integrity. Yes it appears a PR disaster but club had to take the hit for strategic move.

In few weeks time after international break pl games will come thick and fast. Clubs visit the bridge may complain about the same integrity issue because we can't sell any ticket to away fans so they will not able to support their team.

Recent reports suggests club officials talked with government.Government assured they will look into the ticket sales problem because it affects away fans from other teams and integrity of the game.
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You’re a fecking idiot.
 
Rajiztar said:
Sorry mate bit late have to finish of evening shift for my friend . I think this is well thought out strategy by club to apply closed door game for game integrity. Yes it appears a PR disaster but club had to take the hit for strategic move.

In few weeks time after international break pl games will come thick and fast. Clubs visit the bridge may complain about the same integrity issue because we can't sell any ticket to away fans so they will not able to support their team.

Recent reports suggests club officials talked with government.Government assured they will look into the ticket sales problem because it affects away fans from other teams and integrity of the game.
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What are you even on about? If other teams want to protest game integrity then let them - why on earth should we as a sanctioned mega-rich club be doing so in an FA Cup away tie against a lower tier side that is 5 hours' drive away?

Utterly ridiculous that we even proposed this. Can only hope Tuchel and the players had nothing to do with it.
 
Rajiztar said:
Sorry mate bit late have to finish of evening shift for my friend . I think this is well thought out strategy by club to apply closed door game for game integrity. Yes it appears a PR disaster but club had to take the hit for strategic move.
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It’s like Glaston never left
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
Utterly ridiculous that we even proposed this. Can only hope Tuchel and the players had nothing to do with it.
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There's no way Tuchel or the players would have been anywhere near this ludicrous decision to petition the FA.

Tuchel has generally handled the situation pretty well and I cannot imagine him asking for MFC to close their stadium to their own fans due to Chelsea's owner being thrown out of football.
 
cyberman said:
Does it matter who the highest bidder is if nobody is getting the money?
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Sort of. The money is a test. AND a possible safeguard. Romans more important instructions to Raine were things like judging promises to keep increasing funds to academy, being dedicated to developing Stamford bridge and the area around it, etc. if you are going to balk at an additional 400 mil or so… are you the right group for the task?
There is also the creeping possibility of not allowing Roman to forgive the debt. It starts to get complicated here, but a higher dollar amount at sale could theoretically be said to cover fair market value AND the debt, even if Roman never sees the money either way. All of it should go to Ukraine, but you know how governments are once they get their hands on opm.
 
TheMagicFoolBus said:
I don't think we should be allowed to sell them, but I do think it's ridiculous that we have been denied the ability to give them away for free.
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All of our assets are frozen from being touched by Roman. It would literally be impossible for ticket sales to be used to support an invasion.
We are being denied ticket sales because of the singing incident and the fear of protests that optically would be really, really bad.
So giving away the tickets would defeat the purpose. They just don’t want people in Stamford Bridge.
 
Bluelion7 said:
All of our assets are frozen from being touched by Roman. It would literally be impossible for ticket sales to be used to support an invasion.
We are being denied ticket sales because of the singing incident and the fear of protests that optically would be really, really bad.
So giving away the tickets would defeat the purpose. They just don’t want people in Stamford Bridge.
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From what I heard (from 4 different people at the game) the Roman chants were quickly drowned out by the majority but that doesn't suit the narrative that we're all the same.

I mean, could you imagine the comments tarring all of us had it been a minority of Chelsea fans that threw projectiles at Diego Simeone?
 
ZolaWasMagic said:
Not sure id take the Saudi's. Unless there is absolutely no link to Saudi govt, which im not sure of, i dont really follow the Saudi govt ins and outs
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It's an autocracy, it's impossible to operate at that level and get that big without strong ties to the government (nothing to do with their ins and outs).
 
Dancfc said:
From what I heard (from 4 different people at the game) the Roman chants were quickly drowned out by the majority but that doesn't suit the narrative that we're all the same.

I mean, could you imagine the comments tarring all of us had it been a minority of Chelsea fans that threw projectiles at Diego Simeone?
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Classic whataboutism
 
Dancfc said:
No I'm fed up of being tarred by a minority I'll never meet. As I'm sure you would be but luckily for you you don't have to deal with it.
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Fair enough, but you on a rival club forum, you surely must know you going to get abuse from some folk. You seem a decent Chelsea fan but Chelsea as a club and their fans would prob have the worse reputation about in my opinion. You can't understand why they be getting a proper digging at the moment.


As for the last bit, I'm from West Belfast. I know a thing or 2 about being tarred and I know 'whataboutism' very well as well so I totally understand your last sentence :lol:
 
Getting a feeling it'll be the Saudi's now they seem like serious players. I can just see it being spun as:

'This group have no connection with the Saudi Government, Saudi is an important investor in the UK and the purchase will further strengthen our bonds and assure that x amount of jobs will be saved/created'.

In reality, they will pay over the odds and the Government will take the proceeds and plug their financial black hole with it.
 
Dancfc said:
No I'm fed up of being tarred by a minority I'll never meet. As I'm sure you would be but luckily for you you don't have to deal with it.
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From my own experiences of dealing with Chelsea fans in London, you're the minority.
 
There is so much I could say nothing would be anything’s I have as applauding RA or trying to dismiss the logic or indeed the justification for the imposition of sanctions they are well justified and well overdue.

The sooner this is all settled the better for football but let’s be honest letting the government anywhere close to a say as to who owns clubs won’t solve issues.

HM Government have painted themselves in a corner. We are desperate as a country for oil for gas, to sell goods and products in reality very very rarely will questions be asked or morals stop deals and whilst I am far from sure that the Saudi bid will be successful I just can’t see how it could be blocked if the individuals pass the fit and proper test which can’t be amended without a majority of clubs and or the FA putting amend wording to their stakeholders at an EGM or anAGM none of which appear to be scheduled even though you could argue they should.

So my question is I guess we talk about changing the requirements in terms of who is fit and proper but who do you ban? Is it footballs responsibility to operate under different rules to other companies , other sporting entities?
 
Dumbstar said:
From my own experiences of dealing with Chelsea fans in London, you're the minority.
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It’s odd actually because having been to Liverpool to see both Liverpool and Everton I actually really enjoy going to Goodison the banter and humour did the City proud whereas on the one occasion Anfield( won’t ever go there again ) my wife had to wipe spit off her face and I had abuse levied at me and threats that I have never been subjected to at any other ground either in the UK or come to that Europe and I have been to a fair few.
 
Dumbstar said:
From my own experiences of dealing with Chelsea fans in London, you're the minority.
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from a Liverpool supporter that is a bit rich.. Your supporters are vile..
Always spitting at rival supporters, that is an awful habit.
 
The Ricketts family have a load of politicians in their family.
 
WeePat said:
Cubs fans seem be all over Chelsea online spaces warning us against his Ricketts family. They hate their owners.
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So far, every American group other than Boehly‘s who are bidding to buy us are either cheap spenders (Ricketts of the Cubs) or totally incompetent (Sacramento Kings owner and NY Jets owner).

At this point anyone coming in improves the situation and stabilizes things. But we’ll probably become similar to United, Liverpool (before the past few years) and Arsenal fans who complain nonstop about how our American owners don’t spend.
 
Pronewbie said:
Good that you realise who runs this world. Now fall in line like the UK Gov has and show your fervent support for the American Empire. Speaking out means you are misinformed and against freedom, peace and democracy. Stop looking at their deeds and focus on their words instead, especially that of the mainstream media.

It doesn’t matter if they forced Russia‘s hand by reneging on their promise and expanding NATO directly into Russia’s doorstep (via 14 countries), staging coups, colour revolutions and installing puppet governments along the way, while selling billions of weaponry to each Eastern European country for their Military Industrial Complex.

The liberal democracy trail over the past 2 decades are filled with sunshine and roses and instead of focusing on strengthening economic ties, I can’t wait for the US Military to pivot to my region (East Asia) over the next few years to protect their primacy at all cost.
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Both sides have their flaws clearly. All these damn politicians are dirty and always have the same motive and that is personal gain before anything else anyone trying to convince themselves otherwise is truly delusional.
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Tbh despite that Bayern fan and a few others trying to paint a picture of me otherwise I have literally no issue with the flack Roman and the fans chanting his name are getting, it was a staggering lack of self awareness.

What I am getting 'defensive' over however is the suspicious looking posts that very much appear to be using the war to point scoring (hence per my post you quoted) and the generalisations of all Chelsea fans (which has been a problem long before this) which we have once again seen tonight with that poster sharing the Paris video.
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No I agree he deserved punishment if he is involved thats for sure and the dumb people chanting his name should get flack for that as well even Tuchel called them out and last match against Newcastle some tried to start a RA chant but it was quickly drown out but the majority of your hardcore supporters in one of the ends (dont know the name I'm not familiar).
I agree with you and its totally right just take a look at the media whether its journalists from big outlets, pundits, MPs on twitter trying to score points over this but they come off as extremely dumb and insensitive to the actual problem that is Ukraine suffering.
 
Hypothetically, could Chelsea give away tickets for free at the gate?

Would obviously then have a full stadium and surely it's better than just having loads of empty seats for the same money. Would season ticket holders complain and demand refunds maybe?

Anyway, i have no idea. It might be a law they can't but I can't see anything to suggest it has been explored?
 
Orc said:
So far, every American group other than Boehly‘s who are bidding to buy us are either cheap spenders (Ricketts of the Cubs) or totally incompetent (Sacramento Kings owner and NY Jets owner).

At this point anyone coming in improves the situation and stabilizes things. But we’ll probably become similar to United, Liverpool (before the past few years) and Arsenal fans who complain nonstop about how our American owners don’t spend.
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Interesting that Ken Griffin has joined with them by himself. Not using Citadel LLC.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Hypothetically, could Chelsea give away tickets for free at the gate?

Would obviously then have a full stadium and surely it's better than just having loads of empty seats for the same money. Would season ticket holders complain and demand refunds maybe?

Anyway, i have no idea. It might be a law they can't but I can't see anything to suggest it has been explored?
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But what if those free ticket holders end up buying a pie and a coke? It is all kind of silly at this point. I think Simon Jordan was bang on when he said that they should be allowed to sell merchandise, tickets and everything else as normal and all the proceeds should just be placed in escrow for the next owners. It is not difficult to do.
 
Orc said:
So far, every American group other than Boehly‘s who are bidding to buy us are either cheap spenders (Ricketts of the Cubs) or totally incompetent (Sacramento Kings owner and NY Jets owner).

At this point anyone coming in improves the situation and stabilizes things. But we’ll probably become similar to United, Liverpool (before the past few years) and Arsenal fans who complain nonstop about how our American owners don’t spend.
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The Saudi bid seems have to have caused a stir because all of a sudden we're hearing potential separate bidders teaming up to form super consortiums. There was a story today about Nick Candy joining the Boehly group.
 
WeePat said:
Cubs fans seem be all over Chelsea online spaces warning us against his Ricketts family. They hate their owners.
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Other than the Glazers and in the case of KSE the odd million none of the US owners seem to have worked out a formula that sees the clubs being able to getba return on their interest in PL clubs.

We know that US sport is organised differently and whilst not a franchise I do wonder why so many are interested in shelling out vast sums unless they can see some dosh coming in .

Growth in asset value aside what do they know that we don’t?

It would take a2/3 majority to introduce a wage cap so could 14 clubs be corralled to pass such a restriction? Are the numbers near enough there already ?

Lets just suppose it was set at 70%of net turnover excluding player trading which clubs would go for it if, and a big if , Chelsea are bought out by a US consortium?
 
Gandalf said:
But what if those free ticket holders end up buying a pie and a coke? It is all kind of silly at this point. I think Simon Jordan was bang on when he said that they should be allowed to sell merchandise, tickets and everything else as normal and all the proceeds should just be placed in escrow for the next owners. It is not difficult to do.
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That's quite literally what a lot of us have been suggesting since the beginning. Allow the club to operate as normal and just control where the incoming revenue is going.
 
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