Rojo's dangerous tackles.

Hardly a surprise given that we're talking about this guy



And there's a couple of other Rabona's from him, just from that World Cup.


Would be nice if he'd be able to control himself with the two footed tackles since he's been in fine form.
 
Regardless of those tackles (both deserved a red card), I haven't seen anything indicating that he's good enough for Man Utd.
 
Hated that tackle by Moreno on Shaw, so do not like watching any of our players going into tackles like that. Both Rojo and Bailly have gone into tackles that look stupid. Sometimes you have to use your head when making tackles, you cannot fly into a tackle every time. Rio was a master at defending without flying into tackles like that.
 
RedPed said:
The legend that is Mr. Scholes chopped people down every week. Give the guy a break. I'm sure he'll learn from it.
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Scholes used to foul people but I can't remember him going flying in with two feet off the ground in two games in a row.
Scholes was dirty, but in a more cynical way than Rojo. The bottom line is both of them tackles could've ended the seasons of the players he went in on if he'd connected with them fully.
 
devilish said:
With the difference that Scholes was a playmaker. Rojo should know how to defend
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It's nothing to do with knowing how to defend, it's about knowing how to tackle without injuring people. A bad tackle's a bad tackle, regardless of where you are on the pitch. Scholes wasn't let off just because he was a midfieder. That's a poor argument!

That was the whole purpose of Guardiola's comment about not coaching tackles with his players. All players should know how to do it.
 
Rockets Redglare said:
Scholes used to foul people but I can't remember him going flying in with two feet off the ground in two games in a row.
Scholes was dirty, but in a more cynical way than Rojo. The bottom line is both of them tackles could've ended the seasons of the players he went in on if he'd connected with them fully.
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You want to do a re-run of some of his tackles. He wasn't sent off so many times for no reason.
 
he's a bit nuts but I like that, if he stays on the pitch and necesarilly doesnt injure other players I don't care, it's good to have a player which attackers fear
 
Mourinho tried to play it down, but I can imagine he'll have a word with Rojo about it, especially now that it's been made public and no doubt the refs be paying extra attention to it. Doesn't need to go in like that. Other than that; however, he's been fantastic, and two incidents shouldn't change that.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Mourinho tried to play it down, but I can imagine he'll have a word with Rojo about it, especially now that it's been made public and no doubt the refs be paying extra attention to it. Doesn't need to go in like that. Other than that; however, he's been fantastic, and two incidents shouldn't change that.
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I agree with this. The problem is he probably will see red at some point and probably undeservedly so because of all this publicity.
 
daveyjones said:
Regardless of those tackles (both deserved a red card), I haven't seen anything indicating that he's good enough for Man Utd.
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He's been very good at the back with Jones (those tackles aside). I thought our best player vs Spurs too.
 
liamp said:
Scholes wasn't jumping 2 footed into people.
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I don't want to derail the thread and I'm not understating the severity of Rojo's challenges or defending him, I'm just purely saying that he ain't the only one who has a rash challenge in him. I think you'll find that most leg breaks and serious knee injuries weren't caused by two-footed lunges. Scholes used to scythe people down all the time and some of his challenges were reckless and potentially dangerous.
 
RedPed said:
I don't want to derail the thread and I'm not understating the severity of Rojo's challenges or defending him, I'm just purely saying that he ain't the only one who has a rash challenge in him. I think you'll find that most leg breaks and serious knee injuries weren't caused by two-footed lunges. Scholes used to scythe people down all the time and some of his challenges were reckless and potentially dangerous.
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Fergie even mentioned in his book that he had to tell off Scholes for jumping into stupid tackles a lot because he would do this repeatedly, I think I read that.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Mourinho tried to play it down, but I can imagine he'll have a word with Rojo about it, especially now that it's been made public and no doubt the refs be paying extra attention to it. Doesn't need to go in like that. Other than that; however, he's been fantastic, and two incidents shouldn't change that.
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This. If he does it again he will be sent off no question.
 
Simple truth is he should of been red carded. That's 3 two footed chanlenges now and very very lucky not to get a straight red every time.
 
RedPed said:
I don't want to derail the thread and I'm not understating the severity of Rojo's challenges or defending him, I'm just purely saying that he ain't the only one who has a rash challenge in him. I think you'll find that most leg breaks and serious knee injuries weren't caused by two-footed lunges. Scholes used to scythe people down all the time and some of his challenges were reckless and potentially dangerous.
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But you are trying to derail the thread by defending Rojo. Everyone knows Scholes was a dirty player and no one is arguing that he wasn't, but you're trying to argue that because Scholes is a United legend who put in the odd dirty tackle then it's ok for Rojo to do the same.
The fact of the matter is Rojo should've been sent off twice in the last month and he wasn't luckily for us.
 
Yes, I don't understand how one player keeps going in with two feet. One time every couple year, no problem. This is just stupid though.

On the other hand and I credit him for his overall play as a center back. I would definitely keep him as a able backup. I would not, however, play him has a left back in almost any situation. When there, teams just invite us to give him the ball, cover all short passes, and force him to hit a pass longer than 30 meters. He is so bad at those types of passes. He reminds of Silverstre in this respect.
 
Referee won't miss the next one. Any hint of a two footed tackle and he'll be off the pitch.
 
liamp said:
Scholes wasn't jumping 2 footed into people.
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Yes he was, and much worse. He could have easily ended a couple of careers with some of his challenges. Let's not pretend he was just mistiming the odd slide.
 
RedPed said:
It's nothing to do with knowing how to defend, it's about knowing how to tackle without injuring people. A bad tackle's a bad tackle, regardless of where you are on the pitch. Scholes wasn't let off just because he was a midfieder. That's a poor argument!

That was the whole purpose of Guardiola's comment about not coaching tackles with his players. All players should know how to do it.
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An attacking midfielder know less about tackling then a defender especially if that attacking midfielder happens to spent most of his time in the youth academy playing as a striker
 
First one was a red no question. The second one wasn't, he just kinda sat on his ass and was no way near a player.
 
Rockets Redglare said:
But you are trying to derail the thread by defending Rojo. Everyone knows Scholes was a dirty player and no one is arguing that he wasn't, but you're trying to argue that because Scholes is a United legend who put in the odd dirty tackle then it's ok for Rojo to do the same.
The fact of the matter is Rojo should've been sent off twice in the last month and he wasn't luckily for us.
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Um, where did I say that?? You wanna read my posts again mate. And the fact that you've referred to Scholes' challenges as the 'odd dirty tackle' just proves my point.
 
He's a twat. If he makes a physical challenge in the next match he'll be sent off, regardless of whether it's deserved or not.

Obviously coaches will be telling him to stop it, but if he can't then just get rid - tackles like that have no place in Europe anymore.
 
predator said:
Generation snowflake has failed us
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The one against Everton wasn't clever, the one against Palace wasn't that bad.

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..... but when I was a lad :wenger:, there were tackles like that pretty much every game.

I'm not saying it makes it ok but I think we're going a bit OTT. I'm more bothered he gets a red and we have to play a match with 10 men.
 
After rewatching it, how the feck didnt he get a red card for the Everton tackle? :lol: fecking hell

The second one was a red too, funny that some say he was just standing there :lol: he clearly lunges forward, not as excessive, but enough to be labelled as a red card nowadays.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
To plagiarise Crocodile Dundee.....

You call that a dangerous tackle? ...... THIS is a dangerous tackle!

I love the way he tries to act the victim and that the defender (Graham Roberts?) appears to be telling the ref that Souness should be allowed two fouls.

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One of the most cowardly acts of all time that one.

We could all stamp on someone not expecting it
 
As for Rojo, couldn't believe it when I heard the commentators talking about his latest two footer (my stream cut out and I missed it).

Idiotic, and he won't get away with a third one, and we certainly aren't good enough to win with 10men right now!
 
Adisa said:
He's a marked man now. Refs will be watching him.
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This

If Jose is smart he will drop him until the heat dies down a bit, his next tackle could be a love-tap and it will result in a red regardless.
 
It wasn't a great tackle ,& maybe a simple obstruction would have brought the attack to an end ,but Rojo is committed , I like that quality. He was not gonna let zaha pass.
Some will laugh at this , but his commitment actually reminds me a bit of Ramos.
How many red cards has he got ?
Teams need players like that imo.
 
Is he just trying to get an extended break over Christmas?

My dad reckons Denis Law was a swine for getting sent off just before Hogmanay.
 
The palace one really isn't much of anything. Barely touched him, and looked a yellow to me. You can argue that one. Either way. Wouldn't have disputed a red either. But the Everton one was a nailed on red card.
 
11101 said:
Yes he was, and much worse. He could have easily ended a couple of careers with some of his challenges. Let's not pretend he was just mistiming the odd slide.
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ANyone knows that Scholes can't tackle, but he's never been known as a career ending one's.

On Rojo's, wouldn't argue much if he got a red for that.
 
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