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CAF Pilib De Brún Translator
I bow to your superior knowledge of buggery and being farted on.
Yes and I will leave the being shat on to your lot
I bow to your superior knowledge of buggery and being farted on.
Persie, Persie,
Give us your answer, do
Have some mercy
On the poor muppet crew...
You've done your bit for Arsenal
So mind your metatarsal
Say "Hello, North"
And "goodbye fourth"
And "Berbatov, clean my boots".
Yeah we dont really want him, thats why we'll talk about him in public setting us up for egg on our faces if we dont get him.
We will probably wait ad infinitum until some big club steps in....
We will probably wait ad infinitum until some big club steps in....
On a serious note, if RVP turned us down how would this reflect on the club and Fergie?
If we don't get RVP, and with losing out on Hazard, Lucas this summer will be the final straw for a few caftards..
On a serious note, if RVP turned us down how would this reflect on the club and Fergie?
I don't think it'll look good if he turns us down or if he goes somewhere else for a higher fee. We'll have been in for 3 big signings this summer and either unwilling/unable to pay what others did or just rejected. That with the ipo which hasn't exactly gone down a storm from what I understand doesn't paint us in a good light. But oh we'll that's the risk you take. A trophy this year will shut anyone up.
We stopped bidding for Lucas when PSG offered 45mil. Sensible thing to do. I'd say we'd have actually looked a tad stupid had we matched their bid.
The deal for Hazard was a strange one. It was said that all 3 clubs had been allowed to discuss contracts with him. Even he said he chose Chelsea of the 3. Then Sir Alex came out and said our bid was much lower. Why would Lille accept a lower bid from us? So either hazard was lying for some unknown reason or we didnt match Chelsea and City's bid in the first place.
I'm not saying that we weren't wrong to drop out but purely that having been in for 2 big signings and missed out and potentially missing out on a third it doesn't look good to people looking at the club from the outside.
What we know for *certain* is that SAF has now missed two pre-season fixtures - that decision doesn't get taken lightly. Was he doing some work on this deal?.
I find that completely odd. Sir Alex isn't involved in transfer dealings so much these days. Talking to the player and agent, maybe the player's family, that's still his business, but his money talks are made by the money men. Even if David Gill is in the United States we'd surely have someone else to deal with that.
Shouldnt be the case because of the reasons involved specially in Lucas's case.
Well we'll have to see. Can imagine if we're struggling this season for whatever reason people will talk about how we were unable to compete for the big names etc. like i said if we win trophies this season then people will shut up if we don't people will likely bring it up. Either way I think if you go for 3 big signings in one window and miss out on all of them then it doesn't reflect well. Not saying I think we should have bit more or condemning our inability to spend or whatever but simply that it doesn't look good.
Well we'll have to see. Can imagine if we're struggling this season for whatever reason people will talk about how we were unable to compete for the big names etc. like i said if we win trophies this season then people will shut up if we don't people will likely bring it up. Either way I think if you go for 3 big signings in one window and miss out on all of them then it doesn't reflect well. Not saying I think we should have bit more or condemning our inability to spend or whatever but simply that it doesn't look good.
Persie, Persie,
Give us your answer, do
Have some mercy
On the poor muppet crew...
You've done your bit for Arsenal
So mind your metatarsal
Say "Hello, North"
And "goodbye fourth"
And "Berbatov, clean my boots".
That much is certain. If we dont win things, our failure to land Hazard and maybe RVP will be brought up. We cant buy according to public opinion though so its inevitable.
Yeah, but that story is just a variation on the neverending 'United in Crisis' crap that journalists roll out when they're short of filler.
That much is certain. If we dont win things, our failure to land Hazard and maybe RVP will be brought up. We cant buy according to public opinion though so its inevitable.
I remember when our transfers were done in a whiff and without the public or media being aware of it, some of you may recall the Stam, or even Cole and others like Schmeichel being completed without any hint that we were watching or in negotiations with agents.
I'm not saying we should but simply that if you go for 3 big players and lose out on all of them then it doesn't look good. It it happened to arsenal I'm sure people would say they can't compete for the best etc and as I said if we don't win anything then people will talk about it. A lot of it is press crap but I can imagine for some players looking at the club they might have it in their minds when they think about where they're gonna move to. You can bet that fergie won't be happy to miss out on all of his key targets. Signing them would have sent out a big message and not being able to sign them sends out a message imo even if it will be overblown.
What doesnt look good? Not paying 45mil for a 19yr old? as i said, for me, it'd have looked stupid to actually pay that much. It would have been the same had it been arsenal. Even if we miss RVP, it'd only be because he either stayed at Arsenal or moved to City, bad for us yeah but understandable either ways.
In any case, the players we target normally are not the RVPs of this world so it wouldnt be a problem for future purchases. And regarding SAF, he makes the call. so if he decided he didnt want Lucas or Hazard for that price, he has nothing to be unhappy about.
Ok guess we're just gonna have to disagree. You seem to be saying that it was fergies decion to pull out on those deals where as I think that whilst that might be true it could also be true that we were unable to match what they wanted and that uncertainty is what doesn't look good. It's not a damnation of the club, it's not me saying we should have paid that money but simply that if you have 3 big targets that you've made it knowledge that you want and lose out on each of them then it doesn't reflect well on your capability to compete for big signings.