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2014-15 Performances


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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: 2nd half against Burnley he almost looked like his old self again, and yesterday against Swansea he actually tried to make things happen, forced the issue when he had the ball and managed to get some shots off... That's more than can be said for a number of games.

Is it a good outing? No. Did he look better than he has for most of the season? Yes.

It's such a weird time for people to be collectively losing their patience with him. I'd have agreed with people if you said that he's looking like he's done (for the time being) a month or two ago... After yesterday's match, all I can think is that he needs to keep it up and make progress.
 
For those that think he's not committed, if he cared more about himself than the team he could quite easily have come off injured because he was quite clearly in a lot of pain and discomfort. It's very possible he actually did more damage to himself just by staying on and doing what he could to help the team but for some reason this was just swept under the carpet completely.
 
Would van Gaal have allowed him to do so? We had no more subs, I'm not sure he'd have felt comfortable allowing us to spend the rest of the game down to 10. A lot of players play through pain, I don't think that's really a significant barometer to measure commitment.
 
I've got his contribution to the team nailed down to the following:
  • Receive ball.
  • Ignore easy pass to fellow striking partner.
  • Take shot on when others in better position OR
  • Ball is stolen by opposition.
  • Don't chase down the ball (if more than 25 minutes into game, because the legs have gone).
  • Clear snot from left nostril.
  • Clear snot from right nostril.
  • Jog back into position.

strong post to user name correlation
 
Hate to say this, but given LVG's insistence on playing him, I hope he's out for a while. Slow, predictable, boring. Never thought I'd use those adjectives to describe him after his first season with us but he's been poor since then. A real disappointment.
 
good for you to support a player who is performing poorly two seasons in a row. I guess I was sorta the same with Anderson and some other players. In fact every player should be supported but this is really not United standard so I guess people are quite happy with the injury because he looks like he will play in any case for Van Gaal as it's his protection boy:-)

And I don't know why but I never liked him that much, apart his first season he looks like he doesn't give a single feck on the pitch, not playing for the bedge etc.. Still looks like stranger in United team. Not that he didn't settle well, he did but I can see him in Arsenal jersey. Apart that SAF season when he gave him extra motivation he looks awkward..

I have a soft spot for Van Persie tbh. His first season with us was just incredible. The fact we signed him was a dream, the 'little boy inside me was screaming United' quotes and the way in which he singlehandedly won us number 20. That season he was simply magical in the premier league. I will always be thankful to him for that.
He hasn't been the greatest for us for a while now but honestly have any of our players. I haven't seen fluidity in successive games since Fergies last year and that is when RVP was at his best.
 
I've got his contribution to the team nailed down to the following:
  • Receive ball.
  • Ignore easy pass to fellow striking partner.
  • Take shot on when others in better position OR
  • Ball is stolen by opposition.
  • Don't chase down the ball (if more than 25 minutes into game, because the legs have gone).
  • Clear snot from left nostril.
  • Clear snot from right nostril.
  • Jog back into position.
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Exactly, with RVP out Wilson should step in his place, not Falcao.
Would prefer a proper 4231 with mata then Young and di Maria wide. Blind and herrera midfield and Shaw and rafael as wing backs. That will be exciting and quick, but also should have goals.
 
His very presence in the starting 11 is incredibly annoying, most people knew before the game he wasn't going to offer anything and he is badly out of form. Funny how the one rule for everyone doesn't apply to RVP or any of LVG's mates, what happened to needing 2 weeks on the bench to recover from an injury?
 
I'm sure somebody pointed this out further above but his hold up play these days is essentially an exercise of controlling the ball - which he still does well - labouring on the ball for a good five seconds, allowing the opposition to get back into position, doing that daft roll over trick to waste another few seconds and then releasing the ball back to where it came from.

If people are impressed by that then I don't really know what to say.
Too true - Falcao & Rooney do it too tbf. None of them can actually turn on the ball as they're too slow and laboured and just cannot play with their backs to goal. Control ball driven into feet an pass back to our half..or lose possession due to miscontrols. Rarely do you see one take it on the half turn and be able to protect it either, hence the backwards pass.
 
It still annoys me that we only got a season-and-a-half of this Van Persie, but what a phenomenal player he was:

 
He has been shit last year, even if he managed to score 18 goals, and he has been awful this year when he was always in the starting XI. In 25 games so far his production has been poor, very poor from a player able to give us the title just 2 years ago.

In my opinion, Van Gaal has to be intransigent with every player. He has been rude with Welbeck because he was not good enough, so what about RVP?

I like Robin and what he did for his first year, but he has been poor this season, so if LVG his honest with himself he will let him leave this summer
 
Would prefer a proper 4231 with mata then Young and di Maria wide. Blind and herrera midfield and Shaw and rafael as wing backs. That will be exciting and quick, but also should have goals.

Same but I would play Herrera in the number 10 role and put Fellani in midfield with Blind. Mata is a wonderful talent but I prefer the physicality and energy that Fellani and Herrera bring respectively.
 
Same but I would play Herrera in the number 10 role and put Fellani in midfield with Blind. Mata is a wonderful talent but I prefer the physicality and energy that Fellani and Herrera bring respectively.
Can't argue with that. I think Herrera would be a decent 10, I just don't think he would make enough forward attacking runs to suppliment the attack. He can finish, but he is more about controlling the midfield and looking for a pass. I suppose in the tougher games Fellaini would be better though to get stuck in.
 
His last season at arsenal and his first season with us, he was probably the best no.9 in the world. such a shame we only got to see a glimpse of it.
 
A part of me thinks he regrets moving to United. He came here for Fergie and only got him for a year before being managed by Moyes. He may have won a title, but in the form he was in he could have won one for Arsenal, and maybe more.
 
A part of me thinks he regrets moving to United. He came here for Fergie and only got him for a year before being managed by Moyes. He may have won a title, but in the form he was in he could have won one for Arsenal, and maybe more.
He could have won a title with Arsenal?
Are you sure?
 
I wouldnt mind Wilson replacing him alongside Rooney, but the kid has been very up and down.

It may be better to try Rooney as lone striker with Mata behind.
 
Well you never know, they were top of the table until February last season.

Though you could argue RVPs departure allowed for signings such as Ozil and Sanchez.
There were few season when they were on top and then they would eventually collapsed. Even when RVP was there.
 
Van Persie is one of my favourite United players, but he has been shocking recently. He looks so tired all the time. I thought he would thrive under LVG.

So many times against Swansea he picked up the ball and shot wildly. Has he ever worked well with another strike partner?

I have a bit more sympathy for Falcao. He is coming back from a serious injury and adjusting to a new league. But RVP has been poor for the past 18 months.
 
Playing like he knows he isn't getting a contract and I will always appreciate his 1st season as he looked absolutely class - but I think he is pretty much done now. Didn't look like he was enjoying it last year and doesn't look much better now, our striking options look a little fecked at the moment.
 
Playing like he knows he isn't getting a contract and I will always appreciate his 1st season as he looked absolutely class - but I think he is pretty much done now. Didn't look like he was enjoying it last year and doesn't look much better now, our striking options look a little fecked at the moment.

Who would have thought that at the start of the season?
 
Who would have thought that at the start of the season?

I know, so depressing, especially when you think of that first 55-60 mins v Leicester, RVP, Rooney, Di Maria and Falcs all linking up superbly - I was so excited until that penalty.

Now it just looks like we are scrambling around to find someone to give us some inspiration... worrying times.
 
He got screwed over by SAF when he got told by him he would be here atleast 3years. Look at what he has to deal with now, tbf i would have been a bit pissed myself.

In spite of that he should play better, but maybe age has just taken it's toll quickly.
 
It still annoys me that we only got a season-and-a-half of this Van Persie, but what a phenomenal player he was:

Van Persie only ever gave 2 consistent seasons where he looked like the best center forward in the world, one of those was for us. We firmly knew the risk that comes with him and while he got a grip over his injuries, he's mentally not been the same player after Ferguson left.
 
He got screwed over by SAF when he got told by him he would be here atleast 3years. Look at what he has to deal with now, tbf i would have been a bit pissed myself.

In spite of that he should play better, but maybe age has just taken it's toll quickly.

But he fell lucky when LVG took over, he can have no complaints about the manager or how he's been supported this season. I think he's just getting on.
 
But he fell lucky when LVG took over, he can have no complaints about the manager or how he's been supported this season. I think he's just getting on.
I don't think a striker of Van Persie's caliber gets shit to the extent that he has without some underlying issue. I feel that he is jaded after the crap of last season (us being crap the constant media turmoils and being pissed at fergie) and then the world cup.
 
As long as LVG is here so will RVP. Which is very worrying.

Agree. It is depressing just thinking about how it will all play out. The combination of declining athleticism and modest finishing is a real killer.

2014/5 8 non-penalty goals in the PL from 55 shots inside the box - conversion rate 14.5% (excludes pens and goals/shots from outside the box)
2013/4 9 non-penalty goals in the PL from 53 shots inside the box - conversion rate 17%
2012/3 20 non-penalty goals in the PL from 98 shots inside the box - conversion rate 20%

The list of PL strikers who convert more than 14.5% of their shots taken inside the box, is a long one. The out of form Hernandez was at 22% last season, 27% in 2012/3. Mame Diouf is at 18% this season. Frazier Campbell 21%. Harry Kane and Diego Costa about 30%. (Stats from Squawka)
 
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