[m1y2]

shocking how this guy can make starting XI every week. I like his touch which is much better than Rooney's but that is not enough, he can run about 60minutes then he is out of engine, maybe he could take a breath on the bench of some oxygen if you know what I mean? If anything he could make at least one fecking goal from his 5 decent chances. Shelvey took the first one and he is a wanker. This friendship must end. This trio up fron two rigid strikers and another clumsy player like Fellaini is far from ideal and we stick to it.

FFS, FFS, FFS, FFS, how many games do we need to play with two rigid strikers and hoof the ball to fellaini to find out it's not the way. Fellaini did his job about well but his never ending fouls.. it's annoying and he really kills a lot of attack for us by doing so, sometimes it's a good to change the tactics but why don't we play on the ground, but it would still be useless because we have got two striekrs who are not able to do anythig up front due to their absolute lack of movement and skills. My god we started to play with them upfront in the beginning of the season and they were awful all the time, it doesn't work.

Weak up Van Gaal

 

[Boycott]

He is a sore loser. When the going gets tough he withers. It happened at Arsenal and it's happened in the last 18 months. This guy over the years has been quietly accused of being the kid in school who sucks up to the teacher but is a snide guy in actual fact. For all the stick Rooney gets I haven't heard about him going up to the manager and try and persuade him that "player x is crap" essentially. Think the player in question was Ramsey. Or the several tensions involving him at the national team.

Back to the on pitch stuff. You can see he wants to score more to a prolific level again but he isn't willing to do the hard work to get there. When you get to an age where you have to lead through experience and have to sacrifice some parts of your game to stay on longer you need to adapt. You need to adapt to work with the other players who have the directness you once had. I don't think he is willing to do so. I think his body language shows a man who is frustrated with himself but in a deluded manner keeps thinking that things will work out. Well guess what, it's still all crap.

 

[kouroux]

RVP had 7 shots but hit the target once...

And most of those misses weren't "near" misses, they were terrible attempts.

 

[RexHamilton]

Our slow and static strikers are hampering our game in a big way. I'm not claiming they are the only problem, but they are really not helping us at all. Players like Herrera, Mata and Di Maria would thrive at clubs like Chelsea and City where there is quicker movement ahead of them. (I know Mata was allowed to leave Chelsea but that was more to do with his work rate than his ability going forward)

Herrera, Di Maria, Mata, Januzaj are all suffering because our strikers are not performing and the whole team looks laboured going forward.

 

[PlayerOne]

How he keeps starting games is beyond me, he has had a terrible year. I don't think his body can handle English football anymore, just seems so slow, doesn't make runs either.

 

[sunama]

Back to Falcao then.

I would actually rather we play Smalling as a striker than Falcao.
I am deadly serious about this.

Falcao is slow/static and has no redeeming qualities. Also, his confidence is going to be very low, which is a huge issue, especially for strikers.

 

[Nighteyes]

Seems to me like he's taken over as the whipping boy of the caf....replacing Rooney. He wasn't great today but he's our top scorer this and still offers great hold up play.

Not sure how people can conclude he doesn't look bothered either. But that's the caf for you. Player doesn't play well=Doesn't look bothered.

 

[Solius]

Might be a blessing in disguise. lets wait and see.

Wouldn't be in disguise at all. Just a blessing.

 

[Water Melon]

We let Chicha and Welbeck go. At the start of the season, on paper our attacking players were considered to be amoung the best in the league. Now the trio of Wayne, Robin and Radamel brings little hope, and I am actually not really optimistic about having all these players being a year older next season.

 

[roseguy64]

Even I was flipping out after he missed that chance in the second half

Still he managed to hit the crossbar, did any of our attacking players come closer to scoring a goal today? I don't remember, which is pretty telling. We have some serious issues.

TBF the best of our chances fell to RVP which is why.

 

[wiz4231]

We're either giving RVP flack or Falcao or the other way around, can people just not see? Rooney was just as bad, hardly in the game as have all our strikers been in every game when we use Fellaini as our target man, they are supposed to feed off Fellaini. Question is why?
Our strikers are far better than that, the emphasis should be put on them and not Fellaini, LVG has got this all wrong and our striker are suffering because of it

 

[Amar__]

...but he's our top scorer this and still offers great hold up play.

If keeping the ball for ten seconds too long after receiving it near the opposition box and laying it all the way back to our defenders at least 5 times per game is considered as great hold up play to you then you should give up on watching football.

 

[sdb4884]

Swinging that right boot too hard.

 

[roseguy64]

We're either giving RVP flack or Falcao or the other way around, can people just not see? Rooney was just as bad, hardly in the game as have all our strikers been in every game when we use Fellaini as our target man, they are supposed to feed off Fellaini. Question is why?
Our strikers are far better than that, the emphasis should be put on them and not Fellaini, LVG has got this all wrong and our striker are suffering because of it

Rooney wasn't bad at all and was in the game. He deferred to RVP though regarding being the one getting into position for the chances.

 

[Amethyst]

Seems to me like he's taken over as the whipping boy of the caf....replacing Rooney. He wasn't great today but he's our top scorer this and still offers great hold up play.

Not sure how people can conclude he doesn't look bothered either. But that's the caf for you. Player doesn't play well=Doesn't look bothered.

I can understand the criticism from people today, particularly when most weren't happy with him before. I don't think he was as bad as the majority on here, but he should have made more with the chances he got. The second half we resorted to playing long ball into Fellaini and at that point he became anonymous- before that though he was more involved in our play than has been in several weeks.

What annoys me however, is when people come in to the thread to post things like 'hasn't had a good game since 2012' which is clearly not true. The same happened with Valencia when his form went out of the window, people started adding an extra 6-12 months as to how long it had been or saying about his leg break that was at fault when he won PoTY the season after.

 

[Henrik Larsson]

I can understand the criticism from people today, particularly when most weren't happy with him before. I don't think he was as bad as the majority on here, but he should have made more with the chances he got. The second half we resorted to playing long ball into Fellaini and at that point he became anonymous- before that though he was more involved in our play than has been in several weeks.

What annoys me however, is when people come in to the thread to post things like 'hasn't had a good game since 2012' which is clearly not true. The same happened with Valencia when his form went out of the window, people started adding an extra 6-12 months as to how long it had been or saying about his leg break that was at fault when he won PoTY the season after.

Agree with that, though I'm not under the impression RVP gets more (unfair) criticism than the other players on here.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

I can understand the criticism from people today, particularly when most weren't happy with him before. I don't think he was as bad as the majority on here, but he should have made more with the chances he got. The second half we resorted to playing long ball into Fellaini and at that point he became anonymous- before that though he was more involved in our play than has been in several weeks.

What annoys me however, is when people come in to the thread to post things like 'hasn't had a good game since 2012' which is clearly not true. The same happened with Valencia when his form went out of the window, people started adding an extra 6-12 months as to how long it had been or saying about his leg break that was at fault when he won PoTY the season after.

Except it's not, he was crap last season, he's been crap this, if it carries on he will have been piss poor for two out of three seasons here.....

 

[Eriku]

I agree with the notion that he was far more involved than he has been in our matches for a good long while. If only he'd looked as sharp as he did against Burnley as well.

It's shitty... We looked comfortable, we were bossing them away from home, it looked like a matter of time before we nabbed a winner, they score a flukey goal and we never string together a period where we look likely to score again. It sucks, and we all love a scapegoat for this sort of thing, but some of the flak RvP is getting after this match is ridiculous. He's deserved it way more in a number of matches this season.

 

[Asger]

I just wish we had at least one good striker!!! Who would have believe me last summer if I would have said that Rooney, Falcao and Persie weren't good enough? They can all leave next summer If the will not perform better the rest of the season.

 

[Yorkeontop]

He looked so good agaisnt Southamptom away. I thought he was over his patchy form then.

 

[JSArsenal]

He is a sore loser. When the going gets tough he withers. It happened at Arsenal and it's happened in the last 18 months. This guy over the years has been quietly accused of being the kid in school who sucks up to the teacher but is a snide guy in actual fact. For all the stick Rooney gets I haven't heard about him going up to the manager and try and persuade him that "player x is crap" essentially. Think the player in question was Ramsey. Or the several tensions involving him at the national team.

Back to the on pitch stuff. You can see he wants to score more to a prolific level again but he isn't willing to do the hard work to get there. When you get to an age where you have to lead through experience and have to sacrifice some parts of your game to stay on longer you need to adapt. You need to adapt to work with the other players who have the directness you once had. I don't think he is willing to do so. I think his body language shows a man who is frustrated with himself but in a deluded manner keeps thinking that things will work out. Well guess what, it's still all crap.

Think the story was that Ramsey and Van Persie came to blows in the dressing room after a game against Man City that we won 1-0 where Ramsey refused to square it to RVP and instead shot himself. Then he went to Wenger and said that we used to have Fabregas, Henry and others but now we have players who clearly aren't good enough, not naming anyone but clearly meaning Ramsey Apparently he wasn't well liked by some at Arsenal. Same as Alex Song who squared up to Bould one day in training and the next week he was off to Barcelona.

Of course Van Persie was different as we wanted to keep him. Also I have no idea if any of the above is true as I wasn't personally there and Van Persie denied it but that's the story

 

[arthurka]

Holy shit his injury might be a blessing in disguise.. Hope this is his last game for us..

 

[montpelier]

Been dreadful most of this season, the goals he has scored have covered this up. Not a team player for me, either.

I don't mind 'over-reacting' - never warmed to him very much to start with.

 

[Bwuk]

As one of the biggest RvP fans around, it's really sad to see how his level has dropped.

The fact he's still our best #9 says a lot about the squad.

 

[Roman Bellic]

He needs to be sold in the summer, i will always be grateful for #20 but he really needs to move one now, he doesn't deserve to start let alone be our main striker

 

[Parma Dewol]

As one of the biggest RvP fans around, it's really sad to see how his level has dropped.

The fact he's still our best #9 says a lot about the squad.

Agree with you. I'm also a huge fan and it's remarkable how a guy who single-handedly propelled us to the league title can now barely muster a decent effort on goal. Even more remarkable to think it was only a short while ago that he mesmerised the whole world with that header at the World Cup. What has happened to him?

He's a very special player, reminds me of Cantona, Zidane, Bergkamp - that style of effortless genius - but he's a shadow of his former self right now. Really hope he can turn it around because his style of play suggests that he could be great for a few more years if he can get it together again.

 

[siw2007]

Though it probably wasn't his worst game of the season, it is ever more evident that his time at the club is coming to a close. He just looks slow, lethargic and even his goal scoring instincts seem to have betrayed him. Such a shame to se him as a shadow of that powerful, artistic and ruthless striker who played with that hunger and desire to win title 20 for us, but both the club and the player need to move on.

 

[El Zoido]

He really does look past it now, and I agree that this injury may be a blessing in disguise. Aside from that header, he was awful in the World Cup too.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I agree with the notion that he was far more involved than he has been in our matches for a good long while. If only he'd looked as sharp as he did against Burnley as well.

It's shitty... We looked comfortable, we were bossing them away from home, it looked like a matter of time before we nabbed a winner, they score a flukey goal and we never string together a period where we look likely to score again. It sucks, and we all love a scapegoat for this sort of thing, but some of the flak RvP is getting after this match is ridiculous. He's deserved it way more in a number of matches this season.

He's getting damned by the general hysteria alright. Made a mess of a few half chances but his all round play today was better than it has been in most games he's played this season.

I still think he's finished just funny that this game seems to have caused such a big swing in opinions. He's been much worse many times before. Actually wasn't bad today.

 

[Hamadovich86]

Holy shit his injury might be a blessing in disguise.. Hope this is his last game for us..

I was just going to say the same thing. LvG kept Fellaini on even though he was poor because he wanted to lump long balls towards him but how are we even going to get to the final third without our fastest player in di Maria? I cannot justify that sub except by saying van Gaal is ridiculously biased towards RvP.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Why are some fans so sentimental?

He's terrible, he's only in the team because he's LVG's adopted child.

Do you think someone like mourinho would stand for his attitude? No, if it was Jose he would've sold him a season ago and that's why Chelsea are where they are and why we have dropped way out of contention.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Has LvG seriously cocked up here. Rushing RvP back instead of the proving your fitness thing he has. Now he is injured again.

 

[antsmithmk]

How did he manage to look and play so good with a team of rubbish behind him, and now he has quality players alongside and behind and looks so poor. I am beginning to question his desire and hunger, and I also think the injuries he has had during his career have taken their toll. Both him and Falcao looked crocked.

 

[Kakeru]

Why are some fans so sentimental?

He's terrible, he's only in the team because he's LVG's adopted child.

Do you think someone like mourinho would stand for his attitude? No, if it was Jose he would've sold him a season ago and that's why Chelsea are where they are and why we have dropped way out of contention.

That's the main thing people linked with Manchester United have forgotten: being ruthless and show zero sentimentality towards any single player. If Van Gaal wants to save his own ass first, he better drop Van Persie just like he dropped Falcao.

Rooney+Wilson from now on for starting XIs. If Van Persie wants to carry on as a sub in the near future, he's more than welcome. Otherwise, he's of no use as a starter.

 

[Truedevil]

Maybe the best thing for us. Sorry Robin. But Van Gaal would play him against Sunderland for 90 minutes too.

 

[Eric'sCollar]

I am beginning to question his desire and hunger

Only now? Didn't see him pick and choose when he was fit under Moyes? I think he has put a better effort in this season, albeit for worse performances but I can accept that but not the lack of desire.

 

[Lawman]

Has LvG seriously cocked up here. Rushing RvP back instead of the proving your fitness thing he has. Now he is injured again.

It was a tackle to be fair

 

[Pexbo]

Spoiler

Sorry to say it but it can only be good for us. 3 goals in his last 11 games and the performances have been crap.

Time to play Rooney up top with Mata behind him.

 

[bugmat]

How he keeps starting games is beyond me, he has had a terrible year. I don't think his body can handle English football anymore, just seems so slow, doesn't make runs either.

He has been terrible as bad as Falcao with less excuses (no ACl injury, not a new league, plays 90 minutes most times etc). He is done imo. Serie A done.

 

[Rossa]

Seems to me like he's taken over as the whipping boy of the caf....replacing Rooney. He wasn't great today but he's our top scorer this and still offers great hold up play.

Not sure how people can conclude he doesn't look bothered either. But that's the caf for you. Player doesn't play well=Doesn't look bothered.

Stop it. You are takling far too much sense here. Join the bandwagon, they have cookies!