No, I just said that my post was clearly meant to be a joke dig at those who are making endless excuses for RvP, then you come in acting all dramatic at me like i'd stolen some sweeties from a kid dying of cancer. Leather shoes? Anyway if RvP starts playing well, never mind goals, I'll take some actual good performances, then sure I will admit I am wrong, if he is still playing well below part 10 games from now will you come back and admit you are wrong?
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No, I just said that my post was clearly meant to be a joke dig at those who are making endless excuses for RvP, then you come in acting all dramatic at me like i'd stolen some sweeties from a kid dying of cancer. Leather shoes? Anyway if RvP starts playing well, never mind goals, I'll take some actual good performances, then sure I will admit I am wrong, if he is still playing well below part 10 games from now will you come back and admit you are wrong?
In 10 games times we'll convene again and determine whether Van Persie has been playing to an acceptable standard. The loser has to eat a pair of leather shoes.
I'm an independent observer in this by the way. I won't be eating shoes either way. Just wanted to be absolutely clear on that.
Well, will you? Never have put it better. LoL. It certainly feels you are a mean person and just a bit disrespecful to our striker albeit tongue in cheek. But there are worse (someone used words "he's utter sh*t".
Anyway, moving on, if leather shoes are too much for you, then an apology here should be a good gesture. As for me, I always am being fair and if I was wrong I would be ready to admit it. Deal!
I don't think criticizing a 150k a week footballer who isn't performing well is mean, but ok.
If RvP is only suffering a dip I'll gladly admit he has proved me wrong, I just think his legs are shot, time will tell though.
He's been fine last two games that I've seen but I have been at the matches, there's an awful lot the cameras don't see and the subtle movement of Van Persie is certainly one of them.
Herrera and Carrick where slightly off the boil against Stoke and that contributes to Van Persies effectiveness but he's still getting in those spaces and making those bending runs around centre backs. He was also hampered by Wilson wanting to play in the same area of the pitch, great minds maybe but he still had a very good game and should have had a goal for 2 in 2.
He's by no means finished he just needs the service and currently he's been paired with Rooney and Wilson both of whom drop off and in Wilsons case when he did get forward he was under Van Persies feet, it allows defenders to effectively double up on him and deny him the yard he needs.
Once Falcao gets fit defenders won't have the luxury of marking just the one world class senior striker and Van Persie will get his yard, Carrick and Herrera will also be picking up match sharpness along the way and will hopefully start to find those runs he makes with a bit more consistency.
The humble pie shall flow within this thread and we shall all be merry and dance.
Herrera and Carrick where slightly off the boil against Stoke and that contributes to Van Persies effectiveness but he's still getting in those spaces and making those bending runs around centre backs. He was also hampered by Wilson wanting to play in the same area of the pitch, great minds maybe but he still had a very good game and should have had a goal for 2 in 2.
He's by no means finished he just needs the service and currently he's been paired with Rooney and Wilson both of whom drop off and in Wilsons case when he did get forward he was under Van Persies feet, it allows defenders to effectively double up on him and deny him the yard he needs.
Once Falcao gets fit defenders won't have the luxury of marking just the one world class senior striker and Van Persie will get his yard, Carrick and Herrera will also be picking up match sharpness along the way and will hopefully start to find those runs he makes with a bit more consistency.
The humble pie shall flow within this thread and we shall all be merry and dance.
That would certainly be weird if his legs are shot now, considering he tore Spain and other teams apart during the World Cup 6 months ago...the key difference which I think is resulting in his lack of "form" is the difference in the build-up play between Netherlands and United, but that will change soon as the team continues to adopt LVG's philosophy. It is no surprise that RVP is looking increasingly "better" and more threatening with each passing game.
In the early season, our midfield was too slow and too static, which made it too easy for defenders to man-mark and isolate RVP. Now, with multiple threats and a faster pace, this is giving RVP more space and opportunities.
The game against Spain was the only one he really played well in, in the WC in my opinion, Robben was by far the most important cog in the Dutch machine. The thing that struck me against Hull is how out of place he looked with Mata, Herrera and Rooney wanting to move the ball at a quick tempo, it was like we bypassed him in order to not lose the momentum of our attack.
To some extend this is true, though in 5-3-2 and being the deep striker with Robben with the free role it is incredibly hard to make the difference since there was no to little support. Plus what most people do not know he was hit by a virus after the poule phase, that really costed him. Maybe only Zlatan could have done something different than RvP did. I really do not believe other top strikers would have done much better than RvP did. Being the deep striker in 40 degrees celsius, keep making runs without ever getting the ball isn't the most appreciated job.
Think he misses Scholes. Or he could just be finished, either i guess.
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He's been our best player so far but that isn't as high praise as it should be.
He's looked good tonight. Rooney, and Mata have been crap and anonymous respectively. Felliaini has been dog shite.
Considering how little of the ball he's seen (in possession or even anywhere near him) he's done very well with what little supply he's getting.
I would use good lightly. Our best player but considering the performance, I don't think that says much.
Playing at the back now. Waste of his passing ability.
He looks much sharper, his movement is quicker and more decisive, he's not looking laboured like he has recently.
Best he's been all season. Pity his strike partners playing like a donkey though
He's been one of the few really good performers. Pretty much the only one you feel confident of keeping possession when he gets it.
Playing like his 12/13 self. Hope he gets the winner if it comes to us...
It's infuriating how he slows our attacks down though. I he gets the ball with players ahead of him, ratger than looking to play the ball forward he shifts it wide or backwards so he can join the attack himself.
When you've got a strike pertner and an attacking midfielder on the field you dont have to play like you're a lone striker leading the line.
When you've got a strike pertner and an attacking midfielder on the field you dont have to play like you're a lone striker leading the line.
Yes son
He deserves that, he's done well tonight.
Not saying he's dramatically improved but this was my point. His value is still there. Especially in games like this when we're utter shite.
Good description of rooneys performance tonight.
Is he still shit and Welbeck much better etc.....
You silver fox Flying Dutchman beauty!
Goals aside, best game in ages. Sometimes goals flatter a performance. Not tonight. Been really grafting. Great stuff.
Good luck to Falcao trying to get in.
Strange actually. Been standing out all season by being our worst player on the pitch. The exact opposite tonight. Best by a margin.
He has been top class today. His hold up play has been excellent. Brilliant second goal as well.
He's been doing that for the last 3/4 games, some if it just gets missed, sadly.
Someone's finally entered the lost RVP cheat code from 2012.
Still, there's another 15 minutes of blind squeeky bum terror ahead again before we can be sure, I feel.
Because some have made up their mind that he's passed it and ignore any good work that he does.
RVP, RVP, RVP
Fantastic performance. Probably his best this year.
Seriously, how can someone say his performances earlier this season was down this service? Brilliant today, improved everything but mostly the hold up play which was missing before.
He's been fecking great tonight, regardless of how it turns out.
To be fair it's difficult to see his work if the passes aren't finding him. You can only really see it from the stands.
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