RvP in present form needs to be dropped. I'd play Rooney up front with Mata and Herrera and Di Maria behind, with Carrick and Blind as the holding players.
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Can't believe how fast he's declined and van Gaal still wants to stick with him. 
If we can't get Falcao back to his old self, we've reached a point were we need to sign a world class striker. Someone who's on the same level as Diego Costa
If we can't get Falcao back to his old self, we've reached a point were we need to sign a world class striker. Someone who's on the same level as Diego CostaCan't believe how fast he's declined and van Gaal still wants to stick with him.
I was thinking the same having seen how having a world class striker is making all the difference to City
Whats worrying is that LVG doesn't seem to rate Rooney as a striker. Leaving us atm with a underperforming Van Persie, injured/unfit Falcao, and a totally unproven player in Wilson.
Rooney is sometimes a bit inconsistent with his touches. Today he's had 3 great chances any top striker would've scored and he missed all 3, could have cost us the 3 points. Then he also has some games were anything he touches goes in the back of the net.
Yeah, that is true. But I'd still rather see Rooney up top right now then this current version of RVP.
Considering our so called world class attacking options, it seems a bit ridiculous to think that we need a new striker, but that's how I feel at the moment. We severely lack pace up front and a someone who stretches defences. None of RVP, Rooney or Falcao are giving us that. RVP seems to be on the decline big time and there are serious question marks over Falcaos fitness. If this carries on, I wouldn't be opposed to Van Persie being shipped out in the summer, and the money ear marked for Falcao spent on somebody else, although it's hard to think who is a available.
Seeming more and more like a myth as the season progresses.
Isn't his contract up in the summer of 2016? That would mean he's either due for an extension before next season starts or he's sold this summer if he doesn't perform.
At least he had the movement to get in that position something RVP is not doing with the necessary conviction and commitment. Never mind the chances RVP missed early on or the moves that broke down because he was either indecisive or too slow with the ball, goals change the complexion of matches and he has missed a number at critical stages. With a defense like ours we need our forwards to put games out of sight.
Spot on. RvP will not get any younger and looks on his last legs this season. I'd personally play Rooney up top. Hopefully, Falcao gets over his injuries and starts to perform. Still hope he makes it here. if he does not, than buying a new striker would not be a bad idea at all.
He's been poor for a while now, everyone else gets dropped in a second, but he seems immune at the moment.
He won't get dropped.
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I think that is spot on, all the fuss is about how poor our defence is and although I agree we have huge problems up font as well, we don't have four world class players, RVP is on the slide, Rooney isn't player he was, falcao could be in decline as well and it's a struggle to see how mata fits in.
We need a complete rebuild in that area, I would let at least two maybe even three go and add some more pace skill up front and some players who can offer us some more width.
Still can't get over the sale of Welbeck. In all probability requested a transfer. Instantly took away my excitement of buying Di Maria and Falcao.
.....Carrick Blind
Herrera Mata Di Maria
.........Rooney
I'm sorry to say but RVP has left his best days behind him. LVG has to man up and play the above system (When they are fit) and play Rooney up top as as he is energetic enough to run and close down defenders.
Today Rvp looked lost upfront on his own though the whole attacking department did, but I'm basing dropping him not just for today but this whole season!
Herrera Mata Di Maria
.........Rooney
I'm sorry to say but RVP has left his best days behind him. LVG has to man up and play the above system (When they are fit) and play Rooney up top as as he is energetic enough to run and close down defenders.
Today Rvp looked lost upfront on his own though the whole attacking department did, but I'm basing dropping him not just for today but this whole season!
Does the way he's not pulling up any trees despite starting every league game for Arsenal not show you it wasn't that big an issue?
His style of play is exactly what we need. Wether or not he would have made it here is for another thread, but if I was looking for another striker in the summer, then it would be a more complete version of him. Pace, can beat a man, stretches defences. Everything that none of our current lot posses.
RVP has now played almost exactly the same number of mins that Hernandez got in the PL last season. Hernandez managed a miserable 4 goals and 2 assists in 853 mins. I'm struggling to find the words to describe a return of 3 goals and 0 assists in 10 PL matches.
We really should be taking an extended look at other options.
We really should be taking an extended look at other options.
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Robin van Worsie
Dare I say an injury during International duty may be a blessing in disguise for us.....
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I'm pretty interested to see how he would react to being used as an impact sub.
Last season at least RvP when he played still scored goals... This season he just doesn't even look like scoring. When he does get in a chance, he usually fecks up the finish as he has done almost every game this season so far.
There was a moment in the game today towards the end where he had the ball in the penalty area, unmarked team-mates steaming in on all sides and ready to receive a pass, and instead he dallied on it for a couple of seconds and then just aimlessly pelted it at the four Palace players standing in front of him.
I'm shocked how bad van persie as been this season .
I thought he would be flying under lvg but sadly he looks off the pace and slow .
He definately needs benching and wilson or falcao given a good run with wazza in the #10 role .
I'm keeping a close eye on the blind/carrick competition too ,and if it goes how I see it then maybe a dutch bias will creep into the club . that's how it looks with rvp keeping his position when everybody knows that he's a shadow of the player of 2 seasons ago .
I thought he would be flying under lvg but sadly he looks off the pace and slow .
He definately needs benching and wilson or falcao given a good run with wazza in the #10 role .
I'm keeping a close eye on the blind/carrick competition too ,and if it goes how I see it then maybe a dutch bias will creep into the club . that's how it looks with rvp keeping his position when everybody knows that he's a shadow of the player of 2 seasons ago .
this is precisely why I wanted us to sign Cavani. now I just hope that Falcao can stay fit because I don't see RvP regaining form from his first season.
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His performances are basically pretty much the same. poor
His performances are basically pretty much the same. poor
RvP needs to be dropped blah blah blah, it's now the song everywhere. Our problem is not RVP, our problem is that our supposed creative players like Di Maria , Januzaj and Rooney are not creating ANYTHING. Do you people not watch football?
We were pretty poor in that regard during his first season too (zombie football in all its glory) yet he still managed to look far, far more dangerous than he does now.
He really is a bit of a problem these days...
I'd agree with that. Januzaj seems to have gone backwards unfortunately.
Robin really hasn't looked good. But I think the people basically stating that this is the end for him are going a bit over the top. He's very low on confidence, and I don't think playing up top on his own suits him, especially with how disjointed the play is behind him. I have full (misplaced?) faith though that he'll start banging them in again soon. Just needs a spark to get the confidence back I think.
That sounds pretty good actually.
I do think he has dropped down a level. His lack of form is exarcebating this drop in output hence leading to calls of his demise.
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Yeah, after Rooney passed it to him on the left.
Was typical of what he does these days.
Lewandowski for me.
I don't know what the club did or didn't do with regards to signing him, but he'd have been great. Had we signed him and Kagawa, we'd have been laughing - to this day.
Something just dawned on me...
How come with all of our formation experiments, and all of our players playing in different roles etc - no-one ever gets a chance up top except for RvP!?
I mean, we've had Rooney in CM, ADM way out wide, Falcao as a second striker, Carrick and Valencia in the back 4, Fellaini as a number 10, Fellaini as a CM...
But no-one ever gets a start as the pure 9 except for Van Persie. Even from his own point of view that can't be good, strikers need competition.
How come with all of our formation experiments, and all of our players playing in different roles etc - no-one ever gets a chance up top except for RvP!?
I mean, we've had Rooney in CM, ADM way out wide, Falcao as a second striker, Carrick and Valencia in the back 4, Fellaini as a number 10, Fellaini as a CM...
But no-one ever gets a start as the pure 9 except for Van Persie. Even from his own point of view that can't be good, strikers need competition.
I think Falcao probably would have, if he had been fit over the last few games he'd probably start up top in at least one of them.
Your points about Carrick and Valencia though, those were mainly forced on by injury rather than by choice of LVG.
Watching him 'sprint' is painful now. It's like he's stuck in treacle. All knees and no pace.
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