Rivals & Spurs Transfer Predictions 2015/16

Hang on, weren't you just saying that we go with younger players because we haven't any money? Now you present a different reason :lol:

By the way, Van der Vaart, Ginola, Gascoigne, Klinsmann, Ardiles, Hoddle, Lineker and many others all say hi ...

So two in the last 20 years-Van Der Vaart and Ginola.

Hardly big names either.

You have to go back to the 80s really to show your pulling power.
 
Well, there's always some excuse put forward to explain things away, just as more recently there was with Bale. It seems that some United fans are unable to comprehend - or accept - that (a) some players will choose another club over their own; and (b) that United is not the be-all and end-all club that some of you imagine it is.

Anyhow, why single out Gazza from the list ... or did we also snatch Ginola and the rest from you? Basically your post has little to do with the post to which I replied.
I think any United fan realise that if you're up against the likes of Real, Barca the player will most likely chose them. But come on Glaston, between United and Spurs there's no competition. You can't seriously believe that, and for all the "deluded" United fans I haven't seen anyone else speak higher of their club than you do of Spurs. Nothing wrong with that but us United fans at least have trophies and being on of the biggest clubs around to brag about, you can also add money and structure in place to be successfull again.
 
City is really interesting, they need to overhaul their ageing squad but they also need some English players and it's only getting worse with Milner looking to leave in the summer. They spent £30m on Bony as well, not sure where that leaves them with ffp, they seem to be in a mess tbh.
 
That D is still not good enough to make top 4 and I think if you signed Ings he'd struggle to outplay Chadli as a winger (though he'd be a nice fit replacing Soldado).

And I doubt you get both of Southampton's central midfielders. I think Wanyama will stay. Winning the Schneiderlin race would be excellent for you guys, though. He and Eriksen is 2/3rds of an excellent midfield and Mason or Bentaleb could probably do a job next year and maybe Bentaleb will make a leap forward considering his age.

But the 20 mil on Wanyama would be better off going to replace Rose, Dier or Walker.

I agree that it's doubtful we'd get both of S'hampton's CMs, but I was asked about ideal signings. And I'm not suggesting Ings as a winger as such, but more as a forward attacking player without playing two up top.

I'm fine with Dier, since he's been "young and learning" this season and has done reasonably well all things considered (including our lack of a Schneiderlin-quality DM). I also think that Walker and Rose are better than some give credit for - Rose in particular. Besides which, the wing-back position in the modern game is one of the most challenging, if not the most challenging. And in any case I don't see replacements for Rose or Walker that we could realistically sign who would definitely be better ... although I'm open to suggestions. But Yedlin is hovering in the background, and Davies arrived last summer, so who knows, perhaps one of these will step up to claim a regular first team slot.
 
So two in the last 20 years-Van Der Vaart and Ginola.

Hardly big names either.

You have to go back to the 80s really to show your pulling power.

VdV and David Ginola not big names? Well, some would disagree.

In any case this is all irrelevant and all stems from when I suggested that Spurs will mainly continue their focus on acquiring and/or developing young players - to which I was told first that it was because we didn't have any money, and then when this claim was proven wildly wrong, the same poster switched tack and said it was because Spurs can't attract big names.

The simple truth is that (IMO) we'll continue with the main focus I suggested because (a) Pochettino favours this approach and has a track record in that respect for both this season and previously; (b) we have a lot of pretty good prospects now pushing up through the ranks or otherwise available (e.g. Pritchard, Alli, Dier, Yedlin, Bentaleb); (c) we can't compete in terms of fees and wages with the money-bags clubs, or not at least until the new stadium is finished. This doesn't mean that we won't splash out if the right player(s) becomes available.
 
I think any United fan realise that if you're up against the likes of Real, Barca the player will most likely chose them. But come on Glaston, between United and Spurs there's no competition. You can't seriously believe that, and for all the "deluded" United fans I haven't seen anyone else speak higher of their club than you do of Spurs. Nothing wrong with that but us United fans at least have trophies and being on of the biggest clubs around to brag about, you can also add money and structure in place to be successfull again.

This is the popular myth on here, fed by others trying to put their words in my mouth, but the reality is that I mostly simply counter the wild inaccuracies concerning Spurs - e.g. we have no money, as per earlier in this thread - or what I'm alleged (mostly wrongly) to have said.

Take this season for example. Have I predicted that Spurs would finish in the top 4? No.

The problem is that some United fans take exception at any suggestion that, concerning any aspect of football, their club is not the best. For example, a while ago I suggested that Spurs may now have a better training facility/complex and youth development set-up ... cue the howls of outrage, though many neutrals might agree with me.
 
This is the popular myth on here, fed by others trying to put their words in my mouth, but the reality is that I mostly simply counter the wild inaccuracies concerning Spurs - e.g. we have no money, as per earlier in this thread - or what I'm alleged (mostly wrongly) to have said.

Take this season for example. Have I predicted that Spurs would finish in the top 4? No.

The problem is that some United fans take exception at any suggestion that, concerning any aspect of football, their club is not the best. For example, a while ago I suggested that Spurs may now have a better training facility/complex and youth development set-up ... cue the howls of outrage, though many neutrals might agree with me.
You were claiming Lloris was better than De Gea.
 
I agree that it's doubtful we'd get both of S'hampton's CMs, but I was asked about ideal signings. And I'm not suggesting Ings as a winger as such, but more as a forward attacking player without playing two up top.

I'm fine with Dier, since he's been "young and learning" this season and has done reasonably well all things considered (including our lack of a Schneiderlin-quality DM). I also think that Walker and Rose are better than some give credit for - Rose in particular. Besides which, the wing-back position in the modern game is one of the most challenging, if not the most challenging. And in any case I don't see replacements for Rose or Walker that we could realistically sign who would definitely be better ... although I'm open to suggestions. But Yedlin is hovering in the background, and Davies arrived last summer, so who knows, perhaps one of these will step up to claim a regular first team slot.

Spurs have conceded the 5th most goals in the entire Prem! Of the 17 teams set to stay up, only Newcastle have conceded more.

Signing Schneiderlin or another very good DM would reduce that, but if you want to consistently get top 4, you need to go from the 56 you're on pace to concede down to no more than 40 a year. More likely, Schneiderlin's comments on planning to play in the CL come true and he goes to Arsenal.

Dier, Walker and Rose are all young enough to improve and Vertonghen and Lloris are very good players, but I still think it would be a mistake not to upgrade around those 2.

Maybe Davies and Rose is worth giving another year simply because there are 2 of them, but Walker could do with a challenge and Vertonghen could have a new partner and Fazio and Dier would still get a fair amount of time in the cups and if you edge out Southampton, the Europa League.

There are guys out there. Valencia's left-back - Gaya - looks like another Alba type and his release clause is around 13.5, though they have CL football coming. Darmian can play either side and Torino to Spurs is a big upgrade for him.

If I was Pochettino, I'd see this is the core:

-------Kane-------- (Striker)
LW----Eriksen--Lamela (Chadli, Townsend, Delle Alli)
----CM-Bentaleb------ (Stambouli, Mason)
LB--------------RB-- (Walker, Rose/Davies)
-Vertonghen-CB------ (Fazio, Dier)
-------Lloris---------- (Vorm)

For a nice, tight 22 man squad with presumably one or two youth players joining in.

That's 6 new starters and a backup for Kane, which is a lot to ask for in one summer, but you have a lot of deadweight to get off the books like Rose/Davies Paulinho, Dembele, Soldado, Adebayor, Chichires, Holtby, Lennon, Capoue and Kaboul. With the TV contracts enriching the mid-table sides, maybe you can entice teams to spend more than they should for what is in some cases Prem-proven talent.
 
This is the popular myth on here, fed by others trying to put their words in my mouth, but the reality is that I mostly simply counter the wild inaccuracies concerning Spurs - e.g. we have no money, as per earlier in this thread - or what I'm alleged (mostly wrongly) to have said.

Take this season for example. Have I predicted that Spurs would finish in the top 4? No.

The problem is that some United fans take exception at any suggestion that, concerning any aspect of football, their club is not the best. For example, a while ago I suggested that Spurs may now have a better training facility/complex and youth development set-up ... cue the howls of outrage, though many neutrals might agree with me.
We haven't been the best in the league for almost two years now and no one would take issue with that. Regarding youth and training facilities, you have any links to that?
 
Benteke has 2 years left on his contract. I can see him finally moving to Spurs this year.
 
It partly depends on which of our out-on-loan players are brought into the first team squad next season and how they get on. But I'd say we most need another striker (Danny Ings would be good), a DM (Bentaleb has improved hugely in this his first season playing regularly in the Spurs 1st XI, but at the age of just 20 he's not yet ready IMO to be more than a squad/cover player) and a CB.
Fullbacks are what you need as a priority, Walker and Rose are just useless.
 
Benteke has 2 years left on his contract. I can see him finally moving to Spurs this year.
Your lot could do with him as much as Spurs could.

Not sure why he'd go and play second fiddle to Kane. Sturridge is never fit so he'd be better for you guys.
 
Your lot could do with him as much as Spurs could.

Not sure why he'd go and play second fiddle to Kane. Sturridge is never fit so he'd be better for you guys.

Probably, but it's not a signing I'd like to see.
 
The problem is that some United fans take exception at any suggestion that, concerning any aspect of football, their club is not the best.

This is far from exclusive to United fans on the Caf - some opposition posters here act like they're the PR department of their clubs. At points, it threatens to ruin discussion in the FF.
 
City is really interesting, they need to overhaul their ageing squad but they also need some English players and it's only getting worse with Milner looking to leave in the summer. They spent £30m on Bony as well, not sure where that leaves them with ffp, they seem to be in a mess tbh.

I'm wondering what they will do in the market, and who will not survive their overhaul. Players they should take into next season, if possible:

Aguero
LW - Silva - Nasri
Fernandinho - Toure
LB - Kompany - Mangala - Zabaleta
Hart

Bench: Willy, Bony, Sagna, Fernando..............................
They will have a few players to move on or try to find suiters for, like: Dzeko, Kolarov, Milner, Navas, Jovetic, Boyata, Wright, Negredo, Richards, Sinclair, Guidetti.

Maybe Rekik and Zuculini will come back from loan and play?
 
Well, within at least vaguely realistic bounds, perhaps something like:

------------ Lloris
Walker - Dier- Vertonghen - Rose
-------- Schneiderlin - Wanyama
Lamela - Eriksen - Ings
---------- Kane

No chance Southampton will sell both of their starting midfielders. I think the battle will be hot for Schneiderlin's signature, and Wanyama will have to wait his turn.
 
I haven't been keeping up with the muppetry in regards to other teams, so I base this off of a gut feeling:

Arsenal
Dybala, Cabaye and some young random attacker and defender.

*They'll be happy with what Coquelin has done this season and won't bother spending a fortune for Schneiderlin. They'll sign Cabaye as cover.

Liverpool:
Berahino, Milner, Ings, Sissoko (Newcastle) and a full back from La Liga.

*They'll have money to spend from the sale of Sterling. Henderson will stay. All their signings will say how happy they are to join a massive club and how they snubbed offers from elsewhere to join.

Chelsea:
Walcott, Green, Schneiderlin and some young player that will be loaned out in January who they'll make a tidy profit from in a year or two.

* I think this will be their Pizarro, Ben-Haim, Sidwell redux where they make signings for the sake of it that don't work out. They don't really need anybody as Zouma should see an increase in minutes. The argument is these players will add depth, but it doesn't really work that way.

City:
Sterling, Kondogbia and Kurzawa

* This seems to be Sterlings most logical landing spot. City want to buy English, which means any interested club will have City's interest thrown in their face to raise the price. I'm sure Real Madrid would be interested, but they're not as desperate to sign him as City are and probably won't go that extra mile to sign him. With all the talk of the age of City's squad they'll be looking to buy younger players and these 2 are coming from a club who as far as I know want to start liquidating assets as soon as possible.
 
I'm wondering what they will do in the market, and who will not survive their overhaul. Players they should take into next season, if possible:

Aguero
LW - Silva - Nasri
Fernandinho - Toure
LB - Kompany - Mangala - Zabaleta
Hart

Bench: Willy, Bony, Sagna, Fernando..............................
They will have a few players to move on or try to find suiters for, like: Dzeko, Kolarov, Milner, Navas, Jovetic, Boyata, Wright, Negredo, Richards, Sinclair, Guidetti.

Maybe Rekik and Zuculini will come back from loan and play?

I like Navas, although thats only from highlights. I think he's more likely to stay over Nasri. Sinclair has also done well at Villa, but probably no coming back for him.

Gaya seems to be the popular choice on bluemoon.
 
Well, within at least vaguely realistic bounds, perhaps something like:

------------ Lloris
Walker - Dier- Vertonghen - Rose
-------- Schneiderlin - Wanyama
Lamela - Eriksen - Ings
---------- Kane

Who would you say are your 2nd, 3rd choices for those positions?

I could see you getting Wanyama for alittle more than they paid, Koeman seems to like signing players and he wasnt one. Schneiderlin seems a long shot. Rodriguezcmight be a better option for the left if he's fit.
 
I'm pretty sure this is finally going to be the summer where we decide to bring our tanks and air force to the transfermarkt water-fight and blow everyone away.
 
Who would you say are your 2nd, 3rd choices for those positions?

I could see you getting Wanyama for alittle more than they paid, Koeman seems to like signing players and he wasnt one. Schneiderlin seems a long shot. Rodriguezcmight be a better option for the left if he's fit.

I agree that Schneiderlin is a long shot, but assuming it comes off alongside Wanyama, then ...

A 2nd XI might be:

------------ Vorm
Yedlin - Fazio - Chiriches - Davies
-------- Bentaleb - Mason
Townsend - Dembele - Chadli
----------- Ings

A 3rd XI might be:

------------ Friedel
Fredericks - ?? - Veljkovic - McQueen
------ Stambouli - Carroll
??? ------ Alli - Pritchard
---------- Soldado

This assumes no other new incoming players (apart from loanees returning) and that Lennon stays at Everton on a permanent deal. It also assumes that Paulinho, Adebayor, Capoue and Kaboul will be sold.

Another possibility is that Harry Winks - a very promising midfielder from our U21 team - will be brought into the first team squad on a permanent basis. Although he is only 19, he has featured on the bench for us several times
 
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This is the popular myth on here, fed by others trying to put their words in my mouth, but the reality is that I mostly simply counter the wild inaccuracies concerning Spurs - e.g. we have no money, as per earlier in this thread - or what I'm alleged (mostly wrongly) to have said.

Take this season for example. Have I predicted that Spurs would finish in the top 4? No.

The problem is that some United fans take exception at any suggestion that, concerning any aspect of football, their club is not the best. For example, a while ago I suggested that Spurs may now have a better training facility/complex and youth development set-up ... cue the howls of outrage, though many neutrals might agree with me.

better training facility/complex? Not yet convinced! We have more playing fields and our area is 80% bigger. Don't know what medical equipment you have but ours is state of the art. Maybe yours is newer but to make me belive it is also better, facts are needed.
 
better training facility/complex? Not yet convinced! We have more playing fields and our area is 80% bigger. Don't know what medical equipment you have but ours is state of the art. Maybe yours is newer but to make me belive it is also better, facts are needed.

Think we're pretty much the only club that has, what amounts to a hospital wing, on site. The medical complex at Carrington is crazy.
 
I'd say it's two regular starters - Eriksen and Chadli, who've scored 21 goals between them this season. And Lamela stands a fair chance of becoming a more regular starter next season.

But in any case, the money spent on players who don't/didn't start that regularly pales in comparison to United's spending spree of recent years on such players ... Zaha, Kagawa, Shaw, Falcao, Anderson, Di Maria etc

So naming 6 players over a eight year period, 3 of whom aren't even at the club anymore and 1 is only on loan, as if its somewhat comparable to your club wasting £107 million in one Summer on dross (bar Erikson, although even he isn't good enough for a top side)

You're such an idiot GlastonSpaz.
 
So naming 6 players over a eight year period, 3 of whom aren't even at the club anymore and 1 is only on loan, as if its somewhat comparable to your club wasting £107 million in one Summer on dross (bar Erikson, although even he isn't good enough for a top side)

You're such an idiot GlastonSpaz.

Most of the players named don't span an eight-year period. And the fact that 3 of them aren't at the club anymore simply underlines my point.

I don't share your views on Eriksen, nor your implied views on Lamela or Chadli (who has scored 10 goals this season).

PS. Why don't you cut out the personal abuse? Do you imagine it makes you look good or strengthens your comments?
 
Chelsea- Pogba, Varane
Man Utd- Hummels, Otamendi, Clyne, Bender/Pogba, Bale
Man City- De Bruyne, Sterling, Henderson/Pogba
Arsenal- Lacazzete/Cavani, Schniederlin
Liverpool- Milner, Ings (LOL)
Pogba and Bale? Might as well go for Cristiano if we can afford it.
 
In mostly general terms:

* United, City and (to a lesser extent) Chelski to continue with their money-bags approach, signing expensive players and paying huge wages.
* Liverpool face a difficult summer, with Gerrard leaving and the uncertainty over Sterling.
* As with last summer, Arsenal to again be in a position to spend - and to actually spend - more than usual.
* Spurs to generally continue with the focus on developing and bringing young players into the first team squad: Yedlin to provide competition to Walker, Delle Alli (who will definitely come into the first team squad from his current loan to MK Dons), and decisions to be made about the future of players like Alex Pritchard (who has had an excellent season on loan to Brentord), Tom Carroll (currently on loan to Swansea) and Ryan Fredericks (on loan currently Middlesboro').

This thread so about United's rivals' spending, so you have no place posting here.
 
I agree that Schneiderlin is a long shot, but assuming it comes off alongside Wanyama, then ...

A 2nd XI might be:

------------ Vorm
Yedlin - Fazio - Chiriches - Davies
-------- Bentaleb - Mason
Townsend - Dembele - Chadli
----------- Ings

A 3rd XI might be:

------------ Friedel
Fredericks - ?? - Veljkovic - McQueen
------ Stambouli - Carroll
??? ------ Alli - Pritchard
---------- Soldado

This assumes no other new incoming players (apart from loanees returning) and that Lennon stays at Everton on a permanent deal. It also assumes that Paulinho, Adebayor, Capoue and Kaboul will be sold.

Another possibility is that Harry Winks - a very promising midfielder from our U21 team - will be brought into the first team squad on a permanent basis. Although he is only 19, he has featured on the bench for us several times

What I meant to say was who are your 2nd and 3rd choices for the incoming players: Schneiderlin, Wanyama, Ings. Who else on the market might you look at for those roles?
 
Don't know about players. The positions they would need to strengthen imo are:

(1) Chelsea
  • A center back
  • A midfielder as I think both Mikel and Ramires will leave
  • A back up goalie as Cech will most likely leave
  • Some players with potential that they''ll manage to sell for exhorbitant profits a few months later.
(2) Arsenal
  • A holding midfielder
  • A new striker
  • A winger
(3) City
  • New left back
  • 2 Central midfielders
  • a winger
  • Another striker as I think both Jovetic and Dzeko will leave
(4) Liverpool....who the feck cares
(5) Spurs - see Livepool
 
Chelsea :

---------------------------Courtois--------------------------
Ivanovic---------Terry-------------Varane-----------Azpi
-----------------------------Matic----------------------------
Sterling-------Fabregas-----------???????--------Hazard
-----------------------------Costa----------------------------

Arsenal :
-----------------------------Ospina---------------------------
Debuchy---------Howedes----------Koscielny---------Gibbs
--------------------------Schneiderlin------------------------
Pedro-----------Cazorla--------------Ozil------------Sanchez
------------------Dybala/Lacazette/Higuain---------------

City :
--------------------------------Hart-----------------------------
Zabaletta-------Kompany---------Mangala---------Kurzawa
-----------------------------Wilshere---------------------------
??????-----------Barkley--------------Silva---------------?????
--------------------------------Aguero----------------------------

Liverpool :
-------------------------------Mignolet----------------------------
???????-------------Skrtel-------------Sakho------------Moreno
-------------------------Milner------Henderson------------------
Walcott----------------------Coutinho-----------------Berahino
--------------------------------Sturridge-----------------------------


Man United :

--------------------------------De Gea-----------------------------
Clyne------------Hummels---------Smalling---------------Shaw
--------------------------------Carrick-----------------------------
Bale------------Herrera-------------Mata/Fellaini---------Di Maria
--------------------------------Rooney--------------------------------
 
Pogba and Bale? Might as well go for Cristiano if we can afford it.

Well I'd obviously go for him even if there was a small chance but he might want to stay 1 more season and break Rauls all time record for Madrid. In that case I wouldn't want him when he's 31 in 2016 anyway. We should bid for him this summer and if it doesn't work out then forget about him.
 
Well I'd obviously go for him even if there was a small chance but he might want to stay 1 more season and break Rauls all time record for Madrid. In that case I wouldn't want him when he's 31 in 2016 anyway. We should bid for him this summer and if it doesn't work out then forget about him.
Unlikely, but a couple of sides like Granada and he could yet do it this season
 
Don't you ever get tired of posting the same old boring shit?

That's an ironic question from you. I've been here for over ten years, so evidently not...

Just checked, Spurs are 7th in the league. Clearly, as I stated, you belong nowhere near this thread.
 
That's an ironic question from you. I've been here for over ten years, so evidently not...

Just checked, Spurs are 7th in the league. Clearly, as I stated, you belong nowhere near this thread.

If I "belong nowhere near this thread", then I can only suggest that you salve your outrage by organising a campaign to get me banned from it ... at least that might give you less time to keep posting the same old boring shit.
 
Heyo, Glaston. Who do you think Spurs will target in terms of forwards, and who do you want there, personally?
 
Heyo, Glaston. Who do you think Spurs will target in terms of forwards, and who do you want there, personally?

We might go after either Austin or Ings ... I'd be happy with either.