Why are Spurs' transfers being discussed? They're hardly a rival, might as well discuss Southamptons if so
Rivals & Spurs Transfer Predictions 2015/16
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What about the money on Lamela? Paulinho? Soldado? The season before. Not young and not cheap. One year doesn't make it your transfer policy.
What positions do you think Spurs need strenghtening?
The midfield has zero creativity. Paulinho, Mason and Bentley against Burnley were absolute rubbish. Its like Lucas, Allen and Henderson for Liverpool. Two midfields with zero ability to create for the forwards.
£107 million on 7 players, only 1 of which is a regular starter for them
Genius business.
Will just put opinions on how it'll go for big 5..
Chelsea - Nothing too drastic probably. No real weak points in their starting 11, just adding on to the depth of the team and back up for positions where they aren't great. Maybe if they get Varane to improve the starting 11 but that's it.
Arsenal - Can see them go for and get Schneiderlin, Dybala/Lacazette, Khedira... They'll go for Cech but I can't see Mourinho letting him go there. Those 3 would be a very good summer though for them, though they still need a center back and a keeper. Just not many available. They might go for Carvalho too.
Liverpool - Probably similar to last summer as in a bunch of squad players, just with half the money spent. Berahino, Ings, Pedro, Walcott, Milner and a right back probably. Can see Balotelli and Lambert being sold, then maybe Sterling as well (unlikely though). Apparently they also want Pjanic which I hope doesn't happen. Would be a great signing for them.
City - Our biggest competitors for names this summer IMO. They'll go for Sterling, Pogba, Hummels and all the ones we go for probably. Can't see them getting those though. Think they'll get De Bruyne, Barkley, Gundogan/Koke maybe... Not sure who else. Miranda at the back maybe? Will probably fight with Arsenal for Carvalho as well.
United - Hummels, Depay I think are in the bag. We need a right back, and I think we might get Clyne though he's not really an improvement on Valencia for me. Carvajal would be better if we could tempt Madrid after they signed Danilo. Think we'll fight with Arsenal for Dybala and Lacazette, we'll try to bring in Pogba and Bale, and to be fair, I can realistically see us sign one of those 2. Apparently we are strongly linked with Firmino as well so I can see that happening.
My guess: Hummels, Depay, Pogba, Clyne, Firmino
Chelsea - Nothing too drastic probably. No real weak points in their starting 11, just adding on to the depth of the team and back up for positions where they aren't great. Maybe if they get Varane to improve the starting 11 but that's it.
Arsenal - Can see them go for and get Schneiderlin, Dybala/Lacazette, Khedira... They'll go for Cech but I can't see Mourinho letting him go there. Those 3 would be a very good summer though for them, though they still need a center back and a keeper. Just not many available. They might go for Carvalho too.
Liverpool - Probably similar to last summer as in a bunch of squad players, just with half the money spent. Berahino, Ings, Pedro, Walcott, Milner and a right back probably. Can see Balotelli and Lambert being sold, then maybe Sterling as well (unlikely though). Apparently they also want Pjanic which I hope doesn't happen. Would be a great signing for them.
City - Our biggest competitors for names this summer IMO. They'll go for Sterling, Pogba, Hummels and all the ones we go for probably. Can't see them getting those though. Think they'll get De Bruyne, Barkley, Gundogan/Koke maybe... Not sure who else. Miranda at the back maybe? Will probably fight with Arsenal for Carvalho as well.
United - Hummels, Depay I think are in the bag. We need a right back, and I think we might get Clyne though he's not really an improvement on Valencia for me. Carvajal would be better if we could tempt Madrid after they signed Danilo. Think we'll fight with Arsenal for Dybala and Lacazette, we'll try to bring in Pogba and Bale, and to be fair, I can realistically see us sign one of those 2. Apparently we are strongly linked with Firmino as well so I can see that happening.
My guess: Hummels, Depay, Pogba, Clyne, Firmino
This has nothing to do with your clueless assertion - in commenting on the club's youth development/acquisition policy - that "If Spurs had the money they would spend it." I've told that our last accounts showed a profit of over £63m, but that seems to be an inconvenient fact you've chosen to ignore.
Lamela, Paulinho, Soldado (the season before) .... "not young and not cheap". Almost correct, except that Lamela was aged 21 when signed.
PS. One year does make it the central theme our transfer policy .. since it coincided with the arrival of a new manager well-known for favouring such a policy.
I don't think they have a hope of signing De Bruyne or Koke. There's been a lot of rumours that he will be staying at Wolsburg for another year (and they are rich so don't need to sell) and that Bayern and PSG may be interested in him. It's very unlikely that Koke will leave Atletico either with Simeone signing a new contract and if he does become available then we would be crazy to not go after him. I think Barcelona wanted him before and he rejected them to stay at Atletico for a while longer. He wouldn't pick City over Barca you'd imagine. Pogba the same situation as loads of clubs will line up for him.
I hope and think they might have a struggle signing the truly elite players this summer.
I'd say it's two regular starters - Eriksen and Chadli, who've scored 21 goals between them this season. And Lamela stands a fair chance of becoming a more regular starter next season.
But in any case, the money spent on players who don't/didn't start that regularly pales in comparison to United's spending spree of recent years on such players ... Zaha, Kagawa, Shaw, Falcao, Anderson, Di Maria etc
To be fair, United can get away with considering out much greater revenue. The only reason you were able to spend that much was because you sold your best player for crazy money.
Can't include Shaw and Di Maria, as the reason they have been out is injury.
Spurs have to go with younger players because they can't attract the big names.
It partly depends on which of our out-on-loan players are brought into the first team squad next season and how they get on. But I'd say we most need another striker (Danny Ings would be good), a DM (Bentaleb has improved hugely in this his first season playing regularly in the Spurs 1st XI, but at the age of just 20 he's not yet ready IMO to be more than a squad/cover player) and a CB.
Yeah, I agree it's just I do think they'll end up signing a few big players. No idea who. They don't have to be available, it's just there's nobody who I can see leaving even for a lot of money. The big transfers this summer will probably be Hummels to United, and whoever buys Pogba. Maybe Reus as well, even if he signed a new contract. And maybe Sterling/Bale, though unlikely. Can't see any other big name player move for big money this summer.
Hang on, weren't you just saying that we go with younger players because we haven't any money? Now you present a different reason
By the way, Van der Vaart, Ginola, Gascoigne, Klinsmann, Ardiles, Hoddle, Lineker and many others all say hi ...
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Before VDV how many years is it now when Spurs bought a big name?
I think you could count Soldado as a big name. At the time he had just come off the back of a 30 goal season and they spent something like £26 million which is their record transfer.
Obviously he is shit now but then he looked like a quality signing.
Is it true that Mourinho has told him he can leave to whoever he wants come the season's end?
I'm not sure of his contract situation (contracted beyond this season?), but there was talk on one of our radio stations (in Melbourne, so prob not 'in the know' at all) that Mourinho has given him the green light to seek out any side he wants due to him being such a tremendous player/servant of the club.
I don't believe it myself, I doubt Mourinho would allow one of the best GK's in the world to move to us of all teams - I dare say we'd be the last he'd allow a player to move to, or sell to.
But as for Cech himself, he's obviously based and settled in London and his everyday life would not change a while lot if we picked him up. How settled is he in London, does he have kids, etc? I could potentially see Lloris leaving Spuds and Cech moving there if he really is keen on staying in London.
Vieira to tutor him too, surely?
That is the current rumor making the rounds, yes. To be honest, I could see it happening with any other PL club except Arsenal. I think José dislikes Wenger that much that he would deny Cech the chance to stay in London and join Arsenal. We wouldn't loan you Demba Ba, ffs, because we thought he'd help you lot too much. Can't see how we'd let the 3rd best keeper in the league join possibly our biggest title threat next season.
Hell, I think we'd sell him to Liverpool before you guys and everyone knows how much José hates them. They won't be a threat to us.
Exactly my thoughts, especially with the Demba Ba being recent evidence of our potential transfer dealings. However I thought he was not allowed to sign for us after we signed Ozil, and I had the impression he may have been able to sign if Ozil wasn't brought in - or was that a convenient excuse for Mourinho? Actually upon second thought I think I answered my own question there.
I don't see him allowing Cech to leave to us simply by virtue of the fact we would be a significant threat with a World Class keeper in our squad. Sneezy could very well develop into one, considering he has all the tools, and Ospina could take that next step - but Cech has been there, done that and bought the shirt. Plus he'd teach any up and coming keeper a huge amount.
On a side note I've never understood just why Mourinho has such an irrational hatred of Wenger. It actually annoys me.
Chelsea- Pogba, Varane
Man Utd- Hummels, Otamendi, Clyne, Bender/Pogba, Bale
Man City- De Bruyne, Sterling, Henderson/Pogba
Arsenal- Lacazzete/Cavani, Schniederlin
Liverpool- Milner, Ings (LOL)
Man Utd- Hummels, Otamendi, Clyne, Bender/Pogba, Bale
Man City- De Bruyne, Sterling, Henderson/Pogba
Arsenal- Lacazzete/Cavani, Schniederlin
Liverpool- Milner, Ings (LOL)
That would be quite the summer for United.
I think we will spend another £150million again so we don't have a repeat of last season and consolidate our place in the CL. It will probably be our last spending spree for a while also though.
Honestly rather see Pogba go to Madrid rather than our rivals, it would just be extra salt in the wounds from losing him in the first place. Although I do think we'd have a really good chance of signing him if we get top 4. He does seem to have appreciated the time he spent here.
I seriously doubt we are signing 2 centre-backs to be quite honest, Bender hasn't been that great either recently so I doubt we'll see him. Have a feeling Depay will be a United player soon.
Well with the amount of stupid mistakes our centre backs have made this season, I'd be quite shocked if didn't move at least 1 of them one(Evans) and bring 2 top class ones in. I think if we want to go far in the CL and Prem next season then the defence has to be way more solid than it is right now. Smalling and Jones have both looked really promising in the last few months, but no way are they staying fit long enough to start a feasible partnership which they are definitely capable of.
I'm responding to your point that you claimed ye had money with all your profits. I think someones jealous of United's financial strength.Hang on, weren't you just saying that we go with younger players because we haven't any money? Now you present a different reason
By the way, Van der Vaart, Ginola, Gascoigne, Klinsmann, Ardiles, Hoddle, Lineker and many others all say hi ...
Cheers. Not easy to predict how young players get on though. But is it enough to bring in a DM? The times I've watched Spurs you seem a little weak there.
Yea, we'll see a big outlay this summer and then it'll be back to more "normal" spending. And tbf we can't and don't need to spend that amount every year.
It's not a "claim" - the profit figure of over £65m comes from the club's last set of audited accounts. You can see for yourself if you wish: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/upl...cuments/Annual_Reports/annual-report-2014.pdf
By the way, it was you who introduced the subject of money into this discussion, by stupidly claiming that Spurs hadn't got any.
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Where do we currently stand in your Glaston table, are we still behind you?
What would your ideal line up be next season?
Hang on, weren't you just saying that we go with younger players because we haven't any money? Now you present a different reason
By the way, Van der Vaart, Ginola, Gascoigne, Klinsmann, Ardiles, Hoddle, Lineker and many others all say hi ...
Everyone knows that the only reason you got Gazza was because Fergie was away and you lot offered his parents a house that his family pressured him into accepting.
http://thepeoplesperson.com/2015/02/25/paul-gascoigne-regrets-not-joining-manchester-united-77236/
Well, there's always some excuse put forward to explain things away, just as more recently there was with Bale. It seems that some United fans are unable to comprehend - or accept - that (a) some players will choose another club over their own; and (b) that United is not the be-all and end-all club that some of you imagine it is.
Anyhow, why single out Gazza from the list ... or did we also snatch Ginola and the rest from you? Basically your post has little to do with the post to which I replied.
Liverpool
In: Pele, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Ings
Out: Sterling
In: Pele, Tadic, Ward-Prowse, Ings
Out: Sterling
Well, within at least vaguely realistic bounds, perhaps something like:
------------ Lloris
Walker - Dier- Vertonghen - Rose
-------- Schneiderlin - Wanyama
Lamela - Eriksen - Ings
---------- Kane
If Lamela somehow becomes good (and the fecker has a lot of potential) this team would be quite good (bar the crap defense). Better than the current Liverpool's team, for sure.
You do realise that those are his words, not mine right? It's not an excuse when he, himself, says his biggest regret was choosing Tottenham over United and that the only reason he did so was because they offered his parents a house.
So ye have money to bring top players in but ye decide to go for youth??? Tottenham can't attract the biggest names, simple as.
That D is still not good enough to make top 4 and I think if you signed Ings he'd struggle to outplay Chadli as a winger (though he'd be a nice fit replacing Soldado).
And I doubt you get both of Southampton's central midfielders. I think Wanyama will stay. Winning the Schneiderlin race would be excellent for you guys, though. He and Eriksen is 2/3rds of an excellent midfield and Mason or Bentaleb could probably do a job next year and maybe Bentaleb will make a leap forward considering his age.
But the 20 mil on Wanyama would be better off going to replace Rose, Dier or Walker.