During Rio's peak from 2007 to 2013 - 3x CL finals (prime Barca only stopping us), 4 PL and only 1 point and goal difference from winning it in two seasons we didn't. We were absolutely dominant, and a big part of that was our defence. Let's talk about how John Terry did in AVB's high line...
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Vidic was better than all of them.
This is what I was trying to get at earlier, Terrys lack of pace was definitely exposed that season but was he ever in a high line before that season?
I don't think Chelsea ever played a high line after Jose arrived (until AVB) but I may have it wrong.
Rio is one of the only pundits who actually talks detailed about the aspects of defending, he's clearly not thick.
They played highline under AVB and he was poor.
Why does Terry even care so much?? Its so petty
I think I lost quite a few brain cells reading through their arguments.
Makes for quality entertainment however.
Makes for quality entertainment however.
except that wasn't the whole point I was making at all. He calls out Terry for posting his achievements and advertising himself while putting himself at number 1. Both are similar in this.
Terry better than Rio?
. Terry was very good defender but Rio is the Goat in PL era. Most complete defender in history of PL. Positioning, technique, pace, tackling, game reading....he was a monster. Terry was a natural leader and that pushes him up on the list in the eyes of fans. But he is nowhere near Rio as a defender.This. Pep or Klopp would pay 150 mil for a player like Rio.
In the current era, captain lion heart would be at a midtable team in Italy, and Rio would be in Liverpool or city's starting 11, not even in question.
He wasn't better than Rio.
Is this a new rule, or.....?
Terry better than Rio?
Rio was no monster, great player but the physical aspect wasn't something he relished. That is why he always excelled playing with a more physical player alongside him. He had Vidic at Utd, and I always felt he played his best tournament when he lined up alongside Sol Campbell for England. Terry was a great player as well, he did relish the physical aspect. Different types of defender, Terry maybe more of an "old school" type in that nothing got passed him and he was a natural leader. Rio more cultured, although Terry was no slouch on the ball and he had a decent goal return for a defender. 2 great players, each had weaknesses like all players do. I think in recent seasons we as Utd fans due to the lack of present quality are elevating some past players beyond their actual ability
I didn't knew that Chelsea fans are delusional (like Pool fans are).
Nobody is not denying that Terry was a beast. But Rio is level above. It is like it is. Ask 10 neutral fans and i bet 9 will say Rio.
Damn, this is like me going on Chelsea forum and claiming that Ruud is better than Drogba. You would be pissed, right?
I just can’t take people seriously so when they say Vidic was better than Rio.
Rio was the best by a country mile. Terry is obviously an insecure knut, a lot off people think hes a racist they’re probably right, tw*t.
I think both deserves their time in court to discuss this matter. Should be a spot open when Heard and Depp are finished.
Some of y'all taking the piss mentioning Maguire in this thread.
I reckon he was.
I've always thought Rio was extremely talented but a bit of a bottler. Vidic was the rock back there we needed which is why he became Captain. Rio was never captain material at any point in his career.
We won our first PL title in 4 years in Vidic's first full season and then totally dominated afterwards. Our attack was great in this period also but it was our defence which was truly legendary.
We once went 12 games in the league without conceding a single goal.
Van der Sar played a big part also but I think Vidic was the catalyst. He had that inner drive and determination only the true leaders have.
Overall, I'd say Ferdinand was slightly more talented but Vidic had a lot more to him than just talent.
Both were excellent but Rio gets regularly overrated whereas Vidic gets underrated. It's just the English media's way.
Stam was better than Rio also.
By pairing the best in their respective positions I would take John Terry and Steve Bruce. Deadly CB combination.
Rio was absolutely brilliant, but Vidic really was better. The testimony of his peers puts a full stop to any debate.
Rio is a racist and an adulterer?
Terry embarrasses himself on Twitter on a regular basis. Constantly retweeting praise from any random he can find.
Reeks of insecurity.
Reeks of insecurity.
I mean we all laughed away at him at the time as it was truly hilarious but did he really spit on tevez? Can't remember it, if so it's shameful that he didn't get sent off.
Also him taking the supposed wining penalty wasn't too bad, he was a great penalty taker.
Ruud was better than Drogba though.
He should get an extra special mention for his ‘full kit wanker’ routine in that CL final aswell (the one he didn't play in)
Yeah, i went too far. Editing Ruud to Berbatov
Ferdinand and Terry are 1 and 2 in my opinion. Anyone claiming either is miles better than the other can't be taken seriously. Vidic in 3. Van Dijk 4. Kompany 5
Jesus, Rio was easily better than Terry. It’s not even a discussion.
We really don't appreciate what a miracle this was enough
I had given up and was behind my couch with a bottle of whiskey ready.
The whiskey was still drank....but....much more happily.
Get fecked, JT
Rio is miles better than others. Stam, Terry, Vidic, Kompany, Van Dijk, Adams....are on same level and behind him. You can't pick wrong one among them.
John Terry was a poor man's Steve Bruce.
Rio is the best centre half I've ever seen live. Outstanding player but it isn't possible to be miles better than the like of Terry, Vidic and Van Dijk who were/are all truly outstanding. Van Dijk for example doesn't have a weakness so how can you be much better than him. Its very fine margins separating those at the top.
Just here?
And only a Chelsea fan could feel that way, although if I didn't know any better I'd say you were on a wum
That adjustment of the armband was amazing, it actually angered me then and each time I watch it I get annoyed but laugh knowing what will happen. Only thing he didn't do was point to his name before he took it