Let’s sign Ryan Fraser or James Forrest then, both are right wingers....
That’s the problem with our squad. We’ve signed far too many players who aren’t top level and we have a bunch of squad player standard throughout.
Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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Let’s sign Ryan Fraser or James Forrest then, both are right wingers....
That’s the problem with our squad. We’ve signed far too many players who aren’t top level and we have a bunch of squad player standard throughout.
Pulisic is quality and is still pretty young. He's going to improve loads.
Well, the lad is a runner with a poor cross. That's the part that has let him down over the years. However, let the RB overlap and deliver the cross and I think Dalot and Young have a fantastic cross in their arsenal.
Lingard, Sanchez, Chong, Greenwood, Mata.
We need a quality CB to partner Lindelof and a full back.
We need a quality CB to partner Lindelof and a full back.
Was literally just about the 2nd part in the CB thread. With Sanchez coming back and the rest of the lads in too form, I think that’s where our main issue is.
How would you know, whether we tried to sign him? Considering his performances of late and the fee Chelsea are paying, perhaps we decided not to match that offer and look elsewhere? There are a few players, we could sign, who could be just as good or better than him.
Well, we were never linked to him.
If we keep focusing on the fees of each player we won't sign. All players are overpriced. Most clubs accepted this fact and are paying over the odds to secure there targets. If there was a player better than Pulisic, he'll cost even more. We can either adapt and pay the same amount or try to get players for the same prices as pre Neymar deal prices and will end up like last summer. We have to adapt to the new market prices.
Pulisic is just 20 with quality and loads of potential. Chelsea already secured replacement for Willian long term while I don't remember the last time we had a proper winger on the right.
That's not confirmation that we weren't interested. Just a year ago, if you want rumours:
All I am saying is, that there are different options to Pulisic and we shouldn't get hung up on him. If you want to see us spend lots of money, you probably won't need to wait too long on that.
What’s mental is I don’t think he’s even better than Hudson-Odoi who’s game time will be sacrificed because of this.
He’ll be Sancho mk2.
He’ll be Sancho mk2.
The main purpose of their academy seems to be how to make money of those young players and not actually trying to implement them in their team.
How often do you watch Pulisic? I don't think he has world class potential but we love to hype our top young players in America. Pulisic is talented but his numbers are below average, he hasn't lit anything up yet.
Am I the only one that wants to see Tahith Chong get a opportunity at RW? I'm happy we didn't sign Pulisic due to the ability of Chongy. Our lad might turn out to be better.
Has to be Sancho.
Depends on the manager. The way we play now is not down to personnel its tactical. We flood the left hand side and look for a switch of play to the right. Sanchez, Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Lingard and Mata all fight for 3 places in the team currently. We have Greenwood coming through. Sancho will not be sold, not with Pulisic going. We should've signed Perisic when we had the chance.
If we sign Poch then we will play with a CAM, Rashford can be a competent RW and Martial LW. Pogba can fill the CAM position. Our real issue lies with our fullbacks and LCB. Young/Valencia cannot continue and Shaw cannot be relied on as a sole LB. Alex Sandro/Alex Telles and Meunier/Hysaj and Koulibaly/Alderweireld are players we need before we worry about a RW.
If we sign Poch then we will play with a CAM, Rashford can be a competent RW and Martial LW. Pogba can fill the CAM position. Our real issue lies with our fullbacks and LCB. Young/Valencia cannot continue and Shaw cannot be relied on as a sole LB. Alex Sandro/Alex Telles and Meunier/Hysaj and Koulibaly/Alderweireld are players we need before we worry about a RW.
Besides Sancho, there are quality young players like Dembele, Bailey, Coman, Sessegnon, Under, Chiesa, Guedes, among others. Who do you think could be better than Sancho?
I didn't mention players like Mbappe, Dybala, because they are not realistic.
I didn't mention players like Mbappe, Dybala, because they are not realistic.
£90-100 mil for Sancho in the summer, this is the only chance we'll be able to get him in.. He's ripping up the Bundesliga at 18, we desperately need a right winger, it makes perfect sense. Our team isn't looking so hopeless after all, with a new right winger and CB we'll be a real force. We should be able to afford Sancho, unreal value with him only being 18 as well.
How much did Borussia pay for him?
feck all + compensation
Sancho isn't going to go for that much. Would cost a good amount more. They don't need to sell, he doesn't need to move. Look how much they sold Pulisic for who isn't nearly as good and was second fiddle to Sancho.
£100 mil is a hell of a lot, either way he's worth breaking the bank for.
I agree, but Sancho is still extremely young, is playing in a team that is renowned for developing youngsters, he can be patient for his move and Dortmund don't necessarily need to sell him. If they're selling a benchwarmer for 60m+, I don't see them selling Sancho for 100 personally. Especially as if other clubs are aware he is available, they would be interested too.
Yeah it's nuts when we deploy a Mata + Valencia/Darmian combo it's like the right wing is a no mans land that you dare not enter for fear of being shot.
Was hoping this would change under Ole evidently not. Which points to it being a problem with the players themselves and not specific instructions from any particular manager.
I think the sensible thing to do is, be patient and see how Chong does at RW for the remainder of the season. I'm sure Ole will give him a chance once he's back from injury. I personally think he's ready to contribute on the RW. Sancho was at City and it was pretty clear he deserved a opportunity which never came. Now he's at a club who do give youngsters a chance and he's been superb. Even alot of City fans I spoke to, didn't think he was ready to play first team football.
Chong is a superb young talent that may well save the club a fortune. He deserves a chance and I think he has the ability to take it.
Chong is a superb young talent that may well save the club a fortune. He deserves a chance and I think he has the ability to take it.
Chong doesn't do it for me, if he doesn't get a sniff now whilst we have limited options on the right, what chance does he have in the future? His lanky and slander frame isn't built for the Prem in my opinion, especially on the wing.
FFS at the mentions of Chong what is wrong with some of you 
. I won't be shocked if its the same people that were putting TFM and/or Pereira as our starting DM and CM in our lineups this time last year. Putting academy players in the first team is very gratifying but it has to be done right. Chong is way too lightweight to play PL football right now, he's not close to being ready and we should 100% be in for an established player or a nailed on star like Sancho/Dembele.
I can't see on what grounds we'd neglect signing a RW in the summer to start Chong, that is absolute fantasy. I'm also sceptical if all the people mentioning him have watched him consistently enough because the times I've seen him he looks much more comfortable in central areas than out wide.
Barcelona had Messi waiting in the wings and still signed Ludovic Giuly.
. I won't be shocked if its the same people that were putting TFM and/or Pereira as our starting DM and CM in our lineups this time last year. Putting academy players in the first team is very gratifying but it has to be done right. Chong is way too lightweight to play PL football right now, he's not close to being ready and we should 100% be in for an established player or a nailed on star like Sancho/Dembele.I can't see on what grounds we'd neglect signing a RW in the summer to start Chong, that is absolute fantasy. I'm also sceptical if all the people mentioning him have watched him consistently enough because the times I've seen him he looks much more comfortable in central areas than out wide.
Barcelona had Messi waiting in the wings and still signed Ludovic Giuly.
So your issue is with his build?
Mainly yes.
Chong looks comfortable centrally and out wide. I call him the playmaking winger due to having that ability.FFS at the mentions of Chong what is wrong with some of you
I can't see on what grounds we'd neglect signing a RW in the summer to start Chong, that is absolute fantasy. I'm also sceptical if all the people mentioning him have watched him consistently enough because the times I've seen him he looks much more comfortable in central areas than out wide.
Barcelona had Messi waiting in the wings and still signed Ludovic Giuly.
If you read my post properly before you started rambling about Chongs lack of strength and neglecting the RW. You will notice that, what I actually said was, we need to give him a opportunity for the remainder of the season to see how he fares at RW and he may save us a lot of money that could be spent elsewhere. We can't sign either Sancho or Dembele in January and would have to spend in excess of £115m to get just Sancho imo in the summer, assuming he wanted to leave. Chong has the chance to impress under Ole, so let's be patient until the end of the season and see how he does. There's no chance we're getting Sancho or Dembele before then..
Chong and Greenwood should both get some games on the RW between now and the end of the season, like you say we aren't solving this situation in January, might as well see if either of them can stake a claim for the spot. I'd also start Sanchez there and see how that goes, we basically have 5 months freedom for a spot of trial and error.
Agreed..
We have players that can cover the RW spot for now. Though may not be to the taste of some, but I wouldn’t place RW as priority over a commanding CB and possible a fullback.
Give Chong, Greenwood, and Gomes a run in the side during cup games and see how they develop. I’m more excited to see an exciting academy graduate fulfilling their potential, playing for the badge than the next shiny new signing.
Grass is not always greener, and highlight reels can be deceiving.
Give Chong, Greenwood, and Gomes a run in the side during cup games and see how they develop. I’m more excited to see an exciting academy graduate fulfilling their potential, playing for the badge than the next shiny new signing.
Grass is not always greener, and highlight reels can be deceiving.
I probably would prefer Greenwoods, Chong is more of Douglas Costa, Willian, Perieic, Pedro player type. Greenwood has better passing and playmakers, very two-footed which Messi and Ronaldo don't have, two-footed is far more dangerous and unpredictable, whether Greenwood does on the right flank, he can choose his right foot for the cutback more (evidenced in videos) and crossing or use his left foot to shoot from the right flank, if he gets goal opportunities, he doesn't need to control balls by changing the direction of his body where he can finish with dominant footed because he will shoot with weak foot which equals his dominant footed.
Hope to see him soon this year.
Hope to see him soon this year.
Today, the game against Newcastle, we had nothing to offer on the RW. Valencia offered nothing going forward while Mata who started on the RW kept drifting inwards. I'm a huge fan of Dembele... would love him to come here.
It is and he might move for a bit less. However, I'd love us to go out and buy a top 5 young talent and make a statement again
My post wasn't entirely directed at you, it was for the collective of people that mentioned Chong.
Btw I wasn't saying we should go for Dembele or Sancho in January, I meant in the summer window. We've lasted so long without a RW we can wait out another half a season without a proper one. In saying that I would definitely prefer to use Lingard, Mata or Rashford in a horses for courses type of scenario as we've been doing under Ole.
I understand you're saying lets give Chong a chance but we really aren't in a position to give him one unless its FA cup games. Top 4 is an absolute priority and I'd prefer our established options on the right ahead of Chong. If he gets a chance, it should be how Rashford got his. If we have an injury crisis, sure we can put him in and if he impresses I won't be against him in the side.
Ultimately i think our difference in opinion stems from how we rate Chong. I really don't think he's that good of a player to influence our team at this moment in time.
Nicolas Pepe looks like a really good player. I only saw his YouTube highlights but he seems to have all the traits needed to succeed in the EPL. He is very fast, strong and an excellent dribbler for his height. His goal stats are skewed because he takes all the penalties but even without the goals, he looks like just what we need for our right wing. He reminds me of Mane or Bale with the way he carries the ball.
Have half the people even seen Chong play regularly who seem to think he’d be the answer?
He’s done ok in his limited first team appearances, but it’s a big ask to expect him to be a first choice in our attack.
Hopefully he can be and he develops into a world class player, but if even one of Gomes/Greenwood/Chong makes it here we should be happy rather than expect all 3.
He’s done ok in his limited first team appearances, but it’s a big ask to expect him to be a first choice in our attack.
Hopefully he can be and he develops into a world class player, but if even one of Gomes/Greenwood/Chong makes it here we should be happy rather than expect all 3.
Have we actually been linked to Sancho?
Also I have been thinking, Eriksen's contract runs out at the end of next season so perhaps we could lure him to Old Trafford using Mauricio Pochettino? He plays on he right for Spurs doesn't he? I know he drifts inside lots but still.
Also I have been thinking, Eriksen's contract runs out at the end of next season so perhaps we could lure him to Old Trafford using Mauricio Pochettino? He plays on he right for Spurs doesn't he? I know he drifts inside lots but still.
Two unproven youngsters, one who isn’t even a winger. Mata kills the right hand side of the attack when he plays, Sanchez has hardly played there in years and a good squad player.
This making do approach is one of the huge issues we have had over last few years. We need someone who specialises in that position not players who can do a job there.
RB is another position where we seem intent to make do, improve those two positions, sign a CB and this is a completely different team.
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