Contract expiring in 2020, he's unhappy that Alves got into the team on the merit of being Neymar's friend and he mentioned a few years back that he's a lifelong UTD supporter.
Right back....what are the options (if any)?
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Is this a joke? Because I honestly don't know with some fans. Maybe we dont need a RB because Laird can play, or a RW because Chong can play.
Ricardo Pereira ony signed for Leicester last summer didn't he?
Yes, from the same club we signed Dalot. I don't know why we went for Dalot when we could have added the extra millions to get the established first choice.
Because "Youngy" is a hell of a DJ.
Thanks for sharing video. Although I have never heard of him seems very good.
Not scared to get stuck in, good eye to pick his passes, can whip in delightful crosses, has decent free kick technique and I liked his goals. Definitely someone I shall be taking an interest in future.
Did a quick look on https://www.whoscored.com/Players/105151/Show/Kenny-Lala and found out he has decent statistics per game although I know stats don't mean everything. These included:
Tackles 2.5
Interceptions 0.9
Clearences 1.5
Key passes 2
Crosses 1.7
Long balls 4.9
Aaron Wan Bissaka would be my top priority this summer in terms of wing backs. Also like what I hear about Tierney, though admittedly haven't seen much of him.
Sarr is hit and miss, Atal is a very good player he reminds me of Marcelo the way he attacks and beats a player with ease but i think Nice would ask for ridiculous money for him also his defending can sometimes be questionable but can always improve as he's just 22/23 i think. Tete isn't better than Rafael imo, but he is very solid defensively much more so than the others, more of an Ivanovic type with a bit of pace.
Ligue 1 RB's this year from my point of veiw
1. Lala no questions as no 1, he is assisting for fun for a mid-table french team, He is tied for most assists in the league with Di Maria, Pepe and Memphis. and actually has 4 goals, Di Maria & Memphis have 5... His whip on his cross and final ball is something we are craving for, would jump at the chance to move to a big club and would be available for a decent fee.
2. Atal, Going forward he just wants to take anyone and everyone on and most of the time he can do it, just defending wise sometimes he has question marks but still and unreal talent. He would bring the excitement factor when he gets the ball much like Martial, Rashford and Pogba do.
3. Meunier is good and always produces a solid 7/10 performance, you know you can rely on him type thing but going forward he's not got anything on either of the 2 above, he can attack and get forward but you won't see him whip in a ridiculous ball like Lala or beat 2 players like Atal, he'd also cost a fortune...
That's just my pinch of salt
Yeah having seen him quite a few times, he can do it all and would provide something we don't have which is that final ball and set piece specialist which is a bonus, definitely worth to keep an eye out for
AWB is definitely not a wingback.
What do you reckon Lala would cost?
Meuniers contract ends in 2020, so would not cost a fortune.
Valencia was converted to a fullback at 29,right?Mata for RB and Sanchez for LB!
Honestly something like £20m, he isn't a young prospect, he just turned 27 but he is in his prime and in the form of his life.
This will certainly save money.
If Ole suggested this to Woodward, he may give Ole a bonus, before firing him in a year or two.
Guys, for those who think we will sign a full back: we have Shaw as our LB. We have Valencia as our RB (apparently he is not play right now due to injury, otherwise he'd be a first team starter).
If either gets injured with Dalot and Young who can come on. We have options and no need to spend any money on these positions.
At this time, we spending as little as possible and making a new excuse for doing so, every transfer window, which bizarrely, some fans are believing.
I do hope I am wrong, but given our lack of spending for 3 transfer windows, I don't see any change to this policy, unless we make a Galactico signing (Woodward seems to like these, for some reason).
Thanks very much for that information mate.
Nice to hear positives from someone else who has seen him several times. I'm going to try to watch him for first time on Sunday vs Caen. Looking forward to it
Just to play devils advocate but isn’t he mostly being played as a RWB? He’s only recently come to my attention admittedly but every time I’ve seen him it’s been as a WB and some of the games he played in the defending he came across was so bad I’m sure even Valencia would be getting assists and banging in goals.Thanks very much for that information mate.
Nice to hear positives from someone else who has seen him several times. I'm going to try to watch him for first time on Sunday vs Caen. Looking forward to it
I would obviously like to see more as I’m not convinced he would handle the prem but if he could and was a good price might be a decent option till we find out if Dalot is going to make it or not.
I don't watch games in the French League, sometimes highlights, although am going to start. Due to the this I'm not sure how bad the defending is, it doesn't fill me with me with confidence by you letting me know that Valencia could be getting goals and assists out there. (No offence on Valencia).
Thank you for letting me know this mate. I'll start watching and hoping that if we decide to make a bid that he is good enough
He is, they mainly play 352, Strasbourgs game plan in my eyes is to out score there opponents which has worked for them tbf although thehy always concede. I think he is robust enough to make it in them prem, but clearly the jump from Strasborg to United would be a massive jump but I think he'd be happy being a rotational option and would up his game.
It’s a fairly intresting league because there are really good young players spread through out it but it’s so up and down at times because there are just some elements of it where you will get quality or get really poor play and occasionally the good comes up against the bad and makes them look incredible so it’s quite hard to judge.I don't watch games in the French League, sometimes highlights, although am going to start. Due to the this I'm not sure how bad the defending is, it doesn't fill me with me with confidence by you letting me know that Valencia could be getting goals and assists out there. (No offence on Valencia).
Thank you for letting me know this mate. I'll start watching and hoping that if we decide to make a bid that he is good enough
It’s worth watching for the excitement value upon occasion and there are good players in amongst it all, just on Lala I’d like to see more as I mentioned but he does look decent.
Nice! Thanks for sharing... I sure wouldn't mind us going for Lala now.
Personally, I'm hoping United are in for Atal as he's much younger & as you say, excites by going past players with ease.
I would take half the RBs in world football over Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia.
If our scouting team cannot find a better player than them to go straight into the team, they can't be very good at their job.
If our scouting team cannot find a better player than them to go straight into the team, they can't be very good at their job.
Mean't to say RB, whoops.
Would still love him.If he wasn't for his age Youcef Atal would be my pick.
I just leave the name Denzel Dumfries here periodically.
I liked the look of him, when I saw him for the Netherlands, but looking at his stats he seems to be a limited player offensively and in terms of passing? Would he be ready for the step up? And what do you think of Mazraoui?
Dumfries is not there yet, but he has developed from a relegation side in our league to a national team starter in two seasons. Hes not going to be a superstar and he's not yet ready for United, but Im a fan.
Mazraoui, Im not sure, according to Ajax fans he cant defend.. though offensively he's been quite good for Ajax in the CL with a few big game goals.
Didn't we just buy a RB this past summer? Can we try and develop him first please? Thanks...
Thanks!
I'd have been with this too but City have walker & danil0, mendy & zinchenk0.
Surely we can have 2 more? We arguably don't even have a back up that isn't old or out of sort.
We need to slowly move out of being a club that only has 11 players in our squad that is first team & add players that compete with each other.
Totally agree. World class teams don't settle for having Luke Shaw as a first-teamer for starters. They look to provide competition which may result in relegating that guy to 2nd choice, if it benefis the team.
PSG, Bayern, City and Juventus have got 2 top level players for each position. That's what it takes to expect trophies.
The only positions you could argue that we have potentially two world class players in the squad would be...
GK De Gea and Romero
ST Rashford and Lukaku
The way Lukaku's played this season even that's a stretch. We need more world class players to compete for the League and Champions League.
The only positions you could argue that we have potentially two world class players in the squad would be...
GK De Gea and Romero
ST Rashford and Lukaku
The way Lukaku's played this season even that's a stretch. We need more world class players to compete for the League and Champions League.
Yup. I look at a player like Shaw & I think - this guy is good enough to play for United but isn't good enough to be our first team player without any competition. Shaw on the bench would make our bench look shiny & our squad look more full.
Right now we have Young and Dalot at RB (Valencia and Darmien on their way out I think) as well as Shaw at LB with Young as cover. If anything, we should have another player who is a natural LB and perhaps the following season if Young doesnt renew for another year, we then go after a RB. I think RW, CM and central defense are the 3 areas we need to possibly bring someone in this summer
PSG full-backs
RB: Dani Alves, Meunier & Kehrer
LB: Bernat & Kurzawa
Meunier is very good and Dani Alves is still good....the other three are not really so good.
Bayern Munich full-backs
RB: Kimmich & Rafinha
LB: Alaba
Very good starting XI full-backs but Rafinha is awful and no back-up for Alaba.
Manchester City full-backs
RB: Walker & Danilo
LB: Mendy, Delph & Zinchenko
Great starting XI full-backs (if Mendy wouldn't be injured all the time).....Danilo is a good back-up.....Delph and Zinchenko would look poor in every other team as left-backs.
Juventus full-backs
RB: Cancelo & De Sciglio
LB: Alex Sandro & Spinazzola
Great starting XI full-backs.....the back-ups aren't top level.
Better examples would be Barcelona and Real Madrid.
Has to chuckle at the idea that Rashford and Lukaku are close even to world class.
Hopefully, one day Rashford will be though.
City’s second 11 is stronger than our first probably. We don’t have a good first 11 yet, never mind backups.
Has to be Wan-Bissaka
Right back - Bissaka, Dalot
Left Back - Shaw, Young
Right back - Bissaka, Dalot
Left Back - Shaw, Young
Why though? Because he's English and young? Genuinely asking. If people get frustrated by Valencia, Young and Shaw in terms of what they offer offensively recently, then I don't want to know what they would think of Wan-Bissaka. He's an excellent defender and definitely talented, but offensively he hasn't shown nearly enough to be a United fullback. He would need to be a lot better in terms of his passing and at this point that would seem like a hopeful projection, since his role for United would be completely different to his current one. Just wondering why you think it has to be him. I'd love to be wrong.
Wan-Bissaka and Declan Rice are the two Caf favourites that I don't get at this point, Rice might develop but he just signed a 6 year deal, anyway, you're right about Wan Bissaka, he's the RB version of Shaw and Shaw being more defensive works for now with the balance of this team as Pogba is the LCM. However our RB is on Ander's side and should be operating like a winger, for instance even though they are still young I'd transplant Dortmund's right side combo to United if I could, and if we aren't going to worry about buying a RB close in age to Dalot rather than go experienced then Atal looks an exciting option.
I am not the biggest fan of Shaw and think he definitely needs competition, but in terms of his passing I think he's been quite good this season actually. Almost underrated, especially when looking at the stats. Whether Wan-Bissaka could actually be as good as Shaw (and I don't think Shaw is the benchmark there) in that sense would be surprising to me to be honest. Considering how important centre backs and full backs have become in the build-up for teams that want to dominate like United, I think we need to wait and see whether Wan-Bissaka can develop further there.
Sancho and Hakimi would be excellent, I agree. I also really like Zagadou. He has all the tools to become an excellent CB and he'd be almost perfect, since he's more comfortable on the left.
What worries me with Atal is the small sample size. He's been very good, especially offensively, but if he'd cost a lot then I'd rather see us spend that money on Ferland Mendy and suffer through another season with Young.