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They're both homo sapiensAny relation to Thierry?
They're both homo sapiensAny relation to Thierry?
Must? No its not a must
Henry is quality.
And for the job spec, the other 3 options are not bad anyway.
Well if ETH is changing his mind on his own signings so quickly let's hope the next LB signing has been scouted properly.
To inherit Shaw, Dalot,Fernandez and buy two more left backs in two summers would certainly be an odd one.
In my opinion Henry would be the best lb at the club by the end of the season if we signed him
But it adds quality cover across the back line since Shaw is better than any 3rd / 4th choice CB we could find and Henry is already one of the best LB in the league. Both won’t play every game but both would play a lot.Shaw is our best LB and one of the best players in the team when fit. It still doesn't make sense to me. There are so many ways we could use that money more effectively.
From the limited games I watched, I never felt he was some quality player. Looked more like a typical midtable player.
Now all of a sudden other 3 options are not looking bad.
I do not disagree. Good clubs accept their mistakes and fix them quicklyI think you might be right.
But we should have just signed him in the first place instead of going for Malacia.
StepsonAny relation to Thierry?
I know he plays for Brentford, and stats are far from the be all and end all — but blimey his FBref looks a bit depressing. Doesn’t seem to excel at… anything?
https://fbref.com/en/players/8a3c1dc7/Rico-Henry
Being dead last percentile for attempted passes is actually quite impressive
I don't agree that signing Rico Henry makes us any stronger in the long-term. Shaw is better than him when fit and Martinez is our first choice left footer at CB, Shaw only plays there when Martinez is unavailable. It's not even like Rico Henry is a cheap solution to this problem either, Brentford will want around £50m for him.But it adds quality cover across the back line since Shaw is better than any 3rd / 4th choice CB we could find and Henry is already one of the best LB in the league. Both won’t play every game but both would play a lot.
We are already one injury away from Maguire and Lindelof as our CBs. If Shaw were fit and had to play CB we would be incredible thin in both CB and LB position at once.
For me it makes sense, you can’t compete at the top against City or even Arsenal if you play a lot of games with sub par replacements. You have to replace quality with quality.
This being true or not is a different story.
He looks very good for Brentford whenever I see them and seems vital to the way they play. They'd want the kind of money Brighton got out of Chelsea for Cucurella, maybe even more this late in the window.
I can't see it happening unless Shaw is actually crippled and we're beyond desperate.
But this signing would mean Shaw is our Pavard? Ten Hag would still be using that profile of CB.I don't agree that signing Rico Henry makes us any stronger in the long-term. Shaw is better than him when fit and Martinez is our first choice left footer at CB, Shaw only plays there when Martinez is unavailable. It's not even like Rico Henry is a cheap solution to this problem either, Brentford will want around £50m for him.
Even if we feel it's necessary to strengthen our defence (it's far less of a priority than the midfield), there are smarter ways of doing it. We could sign a multifunctional player like Pavard. We're being reactive in the transfer market yet again at the cost of ignoring bigger flaws in the team. It's negligence.
Cucurella was different as he was only at Brighton 12 months and imagine they had him on 5-6 year deal so could rinse Chelsea that way.
Bissouma had 12 months left and they sold him to Spurs for 30m.
Rico joined Brentford in 2016 so not sure where he is with contracts but if it's say coming up to 18 months left then I think around 40m would be valuation.
Or it could be Raya style loan deal of course....
At the expense of making another position weaker. It would be a far worse deal than any of the short-term loans because it would involve spending a significant chunk of our budget on a player who does not improve our best team.But this signing would mean Shaw is our Pavard? Ten Hag would still be using that profile of CB.
I rate this more than all the loan deals. We find ourselves in a hole short term and we use the opportunity to build long term. If the manager thinks he can take Rico and build him up accordingly then I’m all for it.
But it wouldn’t be weaker since Shaw would play a lot of games at LB? It would be the end of Malacia but that’s no big loss. If anything it strengthens that LB position as a whole.At the expense of making another position weaker. It would be a far worse deal than any of the short-term loans because it would involve spending a significant chunk of our budget on a player who does not improve our best team.
I don't see it happening anyway because Brentford will be reluctant to sell this late in the window but that doesn't making the decision making process any better. There have already been a number of red flags in our recruitment process this summer. I'll reserve judgment until the end of the window but as things stand, I don't trust the manager or those operating alongside him to get it right. I'm hugely disappointed.
Now all of a sudden other 3 options are not looking bad.
We're weaker if Henry starts ahead of Shaw or Martinez, bottom line. We're idiots If we pay £50m for the privilege. Resources matter and if we spunk them all on run of the mill players we're going to pay for it in future windows, just as we have with plenty of players we're still struggling to get rid of now. Look how quickly you've written Malacia off, it'd be exactly the same with Rico Henry.But it wouldn’t be weaker since Shaw would play a lot of games at LB? It would be the end of Malacia but that’s no big loss. If anything it strengthens that LB position as a whole.
I don’t think it’ll happen either but it makes more sense than buying Fecking Alonso
Martinez is not a lb, and Henry offers something completely different to Shaw in attackWe're weaker if Henry starts ahead of Shaw or Martinez, bottom line.
The poster was talking about playing Shaw CB in order to facilitate Henry at LB.Martinez is not a lb, and Henry offers something completely different to Shaw in attack
Just how bad are Malacia/Shaw injuries that we are looking for an lb this hard
Have Shaw and Malacia died and no one has told us?
No related to Trump and Giuliani thoughAny relation to Thierry?
Probably because our fullbacks are a big issue also and a reason why we lack in attack. Plus also better attacking fullbacks would mean we could play a double pivotThe poster was talking about playing Shaw CB in order to facilitate Henry at LB.
I'm going to leave it here. I can't fathom why people would be comfortable with us making this signing while the midfield burns, it's all too familiar for me.
Think we should make a move for Valentin Barco.