But harsh on someone who’s just taken a job isn’t it? Imagine you’d just stepped into a role and people were calling you a cnut 10 minutes in. Would you feel it was justified?
Richard Arnold secretly filmed whilst speaking to supporters
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It's the job not the person. No one gets that job who isn't a cnut in my eyes.
I thought he came across very well. Don't know anything about him yet, but seems for some the die is cast.
I just don't think that's an unhealthy starting point.
It looks like him and a few mates in his man cave. Another episode of Disneyland.
In general, anybody who rises to the level of CEO anywhere is going to be cut throat and not averse to many traits that would earn that description.
Yeah.
Probably a UK/Yank thing, but it has very little to do with being a CEO as the majority are cnuts anyway
Seriously one of these hardmen has to be on Redcafe. Come on, out yourself
I wonder how many drinks they would've had before they stumbled their way to Arnold's house protesting.
Dafuq is Rich Evans doing there ?
Oh absolutely. In large part due to the idea that these are the traits that allow somebody to “succeed” to being the likes of a CEO mind.
Those who get to such a standing tend to be even worse than those around them, just for the fact they edged out the competition in such a dirty competition.
I might just be an overly sceptical person but this all seems like a clever staged PR stunt to me.
Come across as humble by meeting fans in the pub and it "secretly" gets filmed to show its genuine.
I mean even if it is I'll give him a bit of credit because it's a much smarter move than Woodward's obvious blame shifting press leaks, but I'd still rather we just signed a fecking player.
Come across as humble by meeting fans in the pub and it "secretly" gets filmed to show its genuine.
I mean even if it is I'll give him a bit of credit because it's a much smarter move than Woodward's obvious blame shifting press leaks, but I'd still rather we just signed a fecking player.
Chat to the CEO of Manchester United over a beer, who actually comes across ok and decided to give you the time of day, only to record the conversation and later slag him off on Twitter. Good going guys.
Such bad form. Complete disrespect. Idiots like.
Yeah when he met them face-to-face none of them were playing the "hard man" they portray now on twitter
Staged not staged whatever, If it isn’t staged and he’s just gone down there to have an honest conversation with people he doesn’t know anything about who planned to protest outside his house, then man’s gotta have some big brass balls on him. Respect to him and hope there isn’t any sort of fall back on him.
It’s rubbish the way this has come out, but these are the kind of things people want to know and hear about the club, honest conversations about what is happening. On the money not a consideration thing I suppose that can be taken a few different ways. Hopefully Barca and the rest of the teams we plan to do buisness with don’t take it as yes we are swimming in cash and we can get players at decent prices.
As for the guys planning the protest, I don’t really know what is worse, protesting Arnold who hasn’t really been in the Job That long and going to his house. Or filming and releasing the conversation possibly without his knowledge.
It’s rubbish the way this has come out, but these are the kind of things people want to know and hear about the club, honest conversations about what is happening. On the money not a consideration thing I suppose that can be taken a few different ways. Hopefully Barca and the rest of the teams we plan to do buisness with don’t take it as yes we are swimming in cash and we can get players at decent prices.
As for the guys planning the protest, I don’t really know what is worse, protesting Arnold who hasn’t really been in the Job That long and going to his house. Or filming and releasing the conversation possibly without his knowledge.
I don't like any of this.
- The recording
- Sitting down with fans at a pub
- Then the twitter rubbish
This man has a business to run. He shouldn't have to meet any United fans anywhere to explain the plans for the club. He has his boss and other execs at the club to answer to. What if we get twatted 8-0 by Liverpool next season. Is he going to have to buy everyone another round of beers at the local pub?
- The recording
- Sitting down with fans at a pub
- Then the twitter rubbish
This man has a business to run. He shouldn't have to meet any United fans anywhere to explain the plans for the club. He has his boss and other execs at the club to answer to. What if we get twatted 8-0 by Liverpool next season. Is he going to have to buy everyone another round of beers at the local pub?
He's there to tell Arnold stories about his drunk uncle and how he invited friend after a baseball game.
Some of the sanctimonious replies in here. The same people moaning about it being filmed are those who compare the Glazers to North Korea and bemoan the lack of transparency.
Those fans know if they’d have asked permission to film the conversation then they wouldn’t have got as much of the truth, if any.
Those fans know if they’d have asked permission to film the conversation then they wouldn’t have got as much of the truth, if any.
Arnold spoke incredibly well here, the club has burned through a billion pounds.
With or without the Glazers the club doesn’t have a bottomless pit of money.
The most important thing is money is spent better going forward.
With or without the Glazers the club doesn’t have a bottomless pit of money.
The most important thing is money is spent better going forward.
Let's not forget Joel and Avram Glazer were walking through Barcelona three years ago taking selfies and shaking hands with all the United fans.
Nothing wrong with the leak.
He is a public figure, he found out about fans going to his driveway to protest.
He decided to intercept them and meet them at a pub near his house..
He sat down with them and answered their questions.
Remember, he is public figure, meeting fans in a public place, of course he will be filmed/recorded and of course it will be published, he must've known that and accepted that risk when he agreed to meet with them, he could've not met them and stayed home, called the police so the fans don't cause him trouble at his home, but he decided to go out and meet a bunch of angry fans and share drinks with them...
He is a public figure, he found out about fans going to his driveway to protest.
He decided to intercept them and meet them at a pub near his house..
He sat down with them and answered their questions.
Remember, he is public figure, meeting fans in a public place, of course he will be filmed/recorded and of course it will be published, he must've known that and accepted that risk when he agreed to meet with them, he could've not met them and stayed home, called the police so the fans don't cause him trouble at his home, but he decided to go out and meet a bunch of angry fans and share drinks with them...
Secretly filming a guy when he has offered to share with you, fans of the club who were preparing to protest outside his home moments earlier, details of what went wrong last season and how he and the club plan to fix it is a shitty thing to do any way you slice it.
But the worst part is the guy actually got the beers in. Betraying the guy who got the beers in is quite possibly the worst thing anyone has ever done in the history of the world. It's absolutely inhumane.
Heard he expensed it. That's £30 less for the transfer warchest
And what could have happened had he met with some random angry United fans. The man's safety is at risk here. Be honest we'd have had a 'Lets laugh at Liverpool' thread up had it been one of their execs meeting with angry fans at a pub. He shouldn't feel pressured to do this but I do applaud him for the courage he showed to face some of our fans. This whole situation is nonsense.
Could have orangized a fan forum at the club to explain plans and have it live streamed on social media. That would be a proper way to go about something like this. I have 0 respect for these so called United fans wanting to go to some execs house to protest. What low life scum that makes the fanbase look like crazies.
Why a protest now? This is just about transfers isn't it.
Oh of course it was ballsy move from him to meet them at the pub.
But what I am saying is that ballsy move had risks, one of them is being filmed, and someone like him would've known that.
Was thinking the same. Free PR, hidden behind "filmed without consent". My only doubt is the fact that he disclosed our supposed budget for this transfer window.
Massive respect for Arnold here and it'll go a long way.
Of course it’s a fecking PR move…
How did he get the info, from his house, that a few Utd fans were going to protest outside his house… and knew what pub they were inside… and who they were in the pub!?
Somebody knew who also had his personal contact details? Cmon.
Then he goes out and it ends up with you all thinking he’s a ‘man of the people’, who ‘got the beers in with the lads’ - a right good bloke, humouring the plebs like.
Let’s see how you all feel about Arnold in a few seasons time…
It then ends up that the Glazers have found a way to speak to the fans while generating pity and explaining why money isn’t being spent - how incredibly fortuitous for them.
FFS cmon. This is the same outcome of nearly all expensive PR - to come across as ‘one of the people’.
They will try to tell you it's not but I didn't see much protesting after last summer when we signed Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo. As I said before the Glazers were in Barcelona three years ago shaking hands with United fans. Nobody bothered going after them then because the mood around the club was all positive and we all thought we were on our way back to the top.
I mean, I've got nothing but utter respect for his honesty. Any person in that position can easily shy away, Arnold confronted it head on and was up front about the past.
The guy clearly wants to do things differently. I do believe long term he will turn this club around with an attitude like that. Glad to have someone like him running the place.
The guy clearly wants to do things differently. I do believe long term he will turn this club around with an attitude like that. Glad to have someone like him running the place.
van Der Sar does Richard Arnold's job at Ajax. Is he a cnut?
“Inhumane”
if a video emerged of them chanting at his daughter I’d agree. They just filmed their conversation with him? Obviously wrong but to be honest after the season we just had every United fan deserves answers even if the method isn’t morally condoned. I personally wouldn’t give a shit about “betraying” anyone upstairs at our club. What’s worse is working people paying up to £150 a pop to watch a bunch of millionaire pricks who have turned what used to be their absolute pride and joy into a complete laughing stock.
Given he gave Overmars a new contract whilst he was under a very serious investigation, yes.
Looks like a nice pub.
And van Der Sar, when a decision was made and the correct process followed got shot of him yes?
Given Overmars resigned, no.
I'd echo concerns about how he handled that Overmars situation but trying to stay on the point I assume you're trying to make, I do think his background makes some difference to me. Football route rather than a business route.
If these are the Red Issue bellends they're also anti-vax conspiracy theorists who spout tin-foil hat gibberish on Twitter, so their opinion on anything is worth about as much as what my cat buries in his litter tray.