Ole had better lay into the refs after this game.
Refs & VAR 2020/2021 Discussion
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Does it say in the rules accidental handball is not handball?
Struggling to think of one good ref in English football.
Take your red tinted glasses off FFSyou are hilariously wrong
Some people seem to think a handball has to be on purpose, when that hasn't been the case in living memory.
The handball rule is a mess. Or Stuart Attwell is a mess. Or both.
Take your red tinted glasses off FFS
You need to go to the optician. You are bordering on clinically blind.I'm genuinely asking? Is there anything in the rules that says contact from an attacker causing the defenders hand to hit the ball doesn't constitute a pen? Because it'd the only possible argument.
If it isn't in the rules it's a stonewall pen.
@limerickcitykid always seems on top of the rules
How did he not? He lifted it up to the ball? Is that even in the rules?
That's not the law ffs.
Surely VAR should be advising Attwell on what the laws are if he implies he doesn't know them.
I'm sure there is a line about handball on purpose is a pen.
But there will be bits about unnatural positions of hands, which will cover that one today.
They continue to make it up as they go along
I just want the ref to show some fecking bollocks when he’s got players around him at the monitor. It’s not allowed so book each one of the cnuts.
At this point we need to start telling the Prem what refs we don’t want refereeing us & leaking it like Southampton did.
Christ knows. The handball rule is beyond me at this point. Presumably VAR were thinking it was a handball seeing as they referred it, so....
Not sure VAR should need to tell the referee how the handball law works really. I haven't a notion but you'd hope they do.
Accidents can be fouls, though. There doesn’t have to be intent. There was advantage gained from this accident.
Second time it's happened as well
Why does it matter if he moved his hands to the ball? Lindelof one start of the season is a pen but this isn’t? my god there is no consistency
my god there is no consistencyWhen Jimmy says its a pen against Chelsea it's a pen
It's very similar to lindeloffs against Palace.
Imo neither should be penalised but the rules say they should be
.When Jimmy says its a pen against Chelsea it's a pen
Why does it matter if he moved his hands to the ball? Lindelof one start of the season is a pen but this isn’t?
I know the Lindelof one wouldn't be given now as the interpretation has changed since then. What the current interpretation is, no idea.
What’s a quick synopsis of the current rule? Got a good link?
The one thing I didn't like about that was the players surrounding the monitor, that shouldn't be happening.
Mason not claiming for it play a part in the refs decision?
It’s nothing like Lindelof against Palace.
The balled was smashed at Lindelof from close range and had no time to change his arm position.
CHO misjudged the flight of the ball he watched onto his hand.
he probably didn’t mean to do it - but they should always be penalties for me
Let’s face it, it wasn’t the worst offence ever committed however I can’t see how it wasn’t given as a penalty once it was referred to the referee.
I fully expected that to be given at that point. There are no mitigating circumstances. Had time to get out the way, arm was in an unnatural position, takes the ball away from Greenwood, plenty of daylight between hand and body...I just can’t understand what the referee looked at and thought “that’s not handball”
I fully expected that to be given at that point. There are no mitigating circumstances. Had time to get out the way, arm was in an unnatural position, takes the ball away from Greenwood, plenty of daylight between hand and body...I just can’t understand what the referee looked at and thought “that’s not handball”
Is there an actual rule on how far the players should be from the ref whilst he’s looking at the pitchside monitor?
People should remember that VAR was bang on about this but the ref has somehow decided to see it and still not change his decision. Madness
I’m still in shock, disgraceful so you can control the ball with your hand providing that you think Greenwood will come into the back of you then Tyler?
Fair point.
VAR actually wasn’t the problem here, it served its purpose.
The problem was a referee refusing to admit he missed it in real time. It’s rather easy to miss in the first instance but once referred to the screen referees can turn a blind eye to incidents apparently.
The ref on bt sports said its a pen all day long everyday.
Tactical fouls just aren't punished in this league.
Every time James passes the ball they foul him so he can't run for a one two.
Not one yellow
Every time James passes the ball they foul him so he can't run for a one two.
Not one yellow
Its 5 or 6 now
Its started in the 3rd minute when Chilwell took him out on the touchline.
We've kept the ball everytime instead of passing it for the 1, 2 so they ref has a kop out
Shaw, in post match, said the ref didn't give the pen because it would create an uproar. Not very logical thinking from the ref there...